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I can’t move past what my husband said

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Whattodowow · 14/01/2024 15:10

I have been married for nearly 11 years now.
We have 3 children together all under the ages of 9.

Now husband and me have been quite argumentative recently and maybe just sort of hit a plateau in our relationship. I imagine this happens in most marriages/long term relationships at some points.

Anyway we were just conversing as normal and he told me that his brother and his wife are expecting a baby in a few months and his newly married sister is expecting a baby too. I replied happily to that news as it’s something to be celebrated.

So anyway as we were conversing he said to me “shame we’re not pregnant” and I sensed he was telling me of their pregnancies in a comparison sort of way which I found weird. This isn’t the comment I can’t move on from though. That comes further down.

A few days earlier I went out with a few female friends and as I was sat in car before setting off to go out, I was looking for my eyeliner which dropped next to passenger seat therefore I pushed the seat back looking for it before I set off to drive. I didn’t end up pushing the seat back to its original position because I was in a rush and didn't think anything of this.

When I came back home (he was at home with the kids) he then quickly nipped out used our car and accused me of having met up with a guy that evening because the seat was pushed back very far and that guys usually sit like that. (I met up with my female friends that evening).
It was late in the evening and I was tired and couldn’t be bothered to entertain an argument with him.
Now we move on to the bit that I can’t move past. He said “whoever it is, he can have you as your tubes are no good anyway”. Tubes as in fallopian tubes. He decided to sleep downstairs that night. I was in shock but had to prioritise sleep as I had work the next morning.

I have had 3 children with this man. 1st birth was traumatic and ended up in an emergency c section where I was put to sleep. 2nd birth I had to be induced and have an episiotomy but managed a vaginal birth. 3rd birth was straightforward vaginal birth but baby was very big at 9lb 11oz and I struggled with severe pelvic girdle pain throughout that pregnancy. In between them pregnancies I had 4 miscarriages. I also had an ectopic pregnancy in my right tube which burst whilst I was at work one day and had to have it removed via an emergency operation , I was bleeding internally and could have died. Bad luck happened a few months after my initial ectopic pregnancy as I then had another ectopic pregnancy in my left tube but they luckily managed to save that tube but it is scarred and I had to have surgery again to remove that pregnancy.
The consultant told me I have a very low chance of ever getting pregnant naturally and that it could result in a 3rd ectopic pregnancy and if I ever wanted to have more children it would most likely have to be via IVF which I would have to fund myself.

The ectopic pregnancies happened after I had my 3rd child so it’s not like I didn’t want to have more kids. We tried and unfortunately I ended up having 2 back to back ectopics.

Since the comments from him the only conversations I have been having with him is regarding the kids and anything important.

Our youngest is 2 years old nearly 3 and i have found life quite tough since she was born as she has been a challenging child, however she seems to be a lot more happier recently. I won’t go into too much detail about her.

I have said to him a number of times that I don’t want anymore kids unfortunately due to everything I have been through fertility wise, the toll it’s had on my body and generally enjoying the stage the older two kids are in because they can do a lot for themselves.
He has never been able to accept that I said I don’t want anymore kids and I said that’s fine but unfortunately sometimes life events happen that’s out of our control and makes people reflect and for me these are one of them situations. I have told him he is very ungrateful for the things he already has in his life.

He has for a while now been saying little comments here and there of ohh “we could have had another baby by now” or “oh what’s the point of you having periods if you don’t want anymore kids”. Things like that which I find disgusting.

Again this is one of them situations where the kids love their dad to bits and it would break their heart if we separated. I on the other hand can’t really look at him the same after the “your tubes are no good anyway”

He has since apologised but it was half hearted apology and said that he “crossed a line”. He’s like iv done my bit by apologising.

AIBU to not move past what he said to me? And would this be the end of your relationship if this happened to you?

OP posts:
sweetgingercat · 14/01/2024 19:52

I am not in your situation so I don’t want to say LT, but 7 miscarriages, 1 baby here… we feel truly lucky with one, even though we wanted a second, that’s impossible now, but my OH would never dare to say anything like that, and I would fall out of love with him if he did…

Tbh even the comment he made about the car seat was truly gros and that would really upset me…

Well done for fighting to have kids, enjoy your life with them, they are a reflection of your hard work and determination and you should feel proud of yourself…

Snowdogsmitten · 14/01/2024 19:52

I wouldn’t be able to get past that either. What a total cunt.

Maray1967 · 14/01/2024 19:53

Dear god, that is appalling. I had one totally destroyed tube due to appendicitis and the other was slightly damaged.

There is no way that a man who said these things could ever be regarded as a good DH.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 14/01/2024 19:56

Whattodowow · 14/01/2024 18:04

@Raisinypeanut

It’s cliche, I thought we could be the couple that would last forever no matter what.
I don’t know i do feel like what im feeling lately is resentment towards him. Which is a strong feeling to have but i think justified for the things he’s said.

And yes initially we agreed on having 4 children. If it were up to him he would probably have more. But obviously because events out of my control happened I made the decision and informed him that I don’t want anymore kids.
He is obviously mourning and unable to cope with this revelation. I have told him before that if the fact I don’t want anymore children makes him decide to want leave and go with another woman I would never stand in his way.

It’s ok saying someone wants more kids but its not like it’s easy bringing up children and all the responsibility that comes with it. It’s a life long commitment. 3 kids is already hard enough.

My friend and her DH both wanted to have loads. The "we'll have our own football team" kind of family. They have one. Her journey to getting pregnant took a long time and toll on her. The pregnancy was hard on her. The birth was traumatic. They have their gorgeous little girl now. But she said after that, that she couldn't do it again. Couldn't lose more babies. Couldn't go through another pregnancy or birth. And he respected that.

You can want as many children as you want. You have what you have. It might not be what you discussed but life happens and things change. He should respect you so much more for the three you gave him and what your body went through to get to where you are. He doesn't. Kick him to the kerb and enjoy the family you created.

Folklore9074 · 14/01/2024 19:56

CatMadam · 14/01/2024 16:41

I’d say him being an enormous shite is what’s at the root of it. No amount of marriage counselling is going to change what appears to be a controlling, abusive man into a pleasant, respectful one.

Well maybe, but real life isn’t as easy as just LTB is it? Especially with three kids. Trying to get a bit of healthy dialogue going is worth a shot whatever the ultimate outcome

vitahelp · 14/01/2024 20:00

What a piece of shit, knocked me sick reading that. I’m sorry you’ve ended up in this situation. Yes I’d leave.

SecondHandFurniture · 14/01/2024 20:02

He's shown you a level of contempt there that I don't think I could get past. My pride wouldn't let me.

netflixxer · 14/01/2024 20:05

Yes OP, it would be the end of our relationship if it happened to me. And you are NOT being unreasonable.

I think your husband's appalling, disgusting and misogynistic.

No one can tell you what to do, but woman to woman, you do not deserve that. Your bodies been through a lot and if you've said you don't want any more children he should respect that. He should be grovelling at your knees apologising. He's very lucky I'm not his wife.

RiceisLife · 14/01/2024 20:07

Apart from the comments that you can't over...which are horrendous and disgusting....even the first bit of the story that he is accusing you of cheating because a seat moved...that's not normal or acceptable and is v controlling and paranoid. Even if he didn't say what he did, if he regularly accuses you of cheating when you're just going about your normal life...that is abusive and controlling.

ADHDASCBAMEWoman · 14/01/2024 20:10

SgtJuneAckland · 14/01/2024 15:20

Why does he want to keep you constantly pregnant or with a new born? It reeks of control to me. His comments about your fertility indicate he views you as nothing other than an incubator and the accusation of cheating because you'd moved a car seat speaks to his sexual jealousy. He has all the hallmarks of an abusive partner. Take your children and get away from him

Edited

^ this , control.
He wants to keep you (in his eyes) too busy/tired or focused on your children so you don't have to examine his behaviours too much. You'll put more and more toll on your body and probably he thinks you'll be grateful just to have him.

emilysquest · 14/01/2024 20:11

I'd bet quite a bit that he himself is the cheat...

emilysquest · 14/01/2024 20:16

And of course, the little woman is always pregnant, ill, bleeding, exhausted etc, or alternatively, of course, cheating when she can, so he isn't "getting it" so will be justified in "looking elsewhere".

Itsbritneybitch22 · 14/01/2024 20:20

He’s a prick but there must be more to it if you’re willing to leave over what he said. Sounds to me like the relationship is probably done.

emilysquest · 14/01/2024 20:22

@Itsbritneybitch22 I think the level of disrespect and misogyny is sufficient to comprehensively get rid, irrespective of any other factors.

Flatulence · 14/01/2024 20:23

I've already commented to say I find him disgusting but I wanted to add that I find his obsession with having lots of children quite disturbing.
The kids may well adore him but he clearly thinks he's Billy Big Bollocks or something. Is he really interested in his kids or does he just want to spread his DNA far and wide? The more I think about it, the more it makes me feel sick.
He doesn't value you for you - you're just a uterus. And as I result I strongly suspect he doesn't view your kids as individuals but as extensions of himself.
He's vile. He's abusive. He's controlling. He's toxic.
Even if - because of some weird sense of duty - you stay with him do you really want your two daughters to grow up thinking that your disgusting, pathetic, controlling, abusive excuse of a husband is what good men are like? Do you want your son to become like him - thinking that he's some sort of role model?
Hell to the no.
Leave. Leave asap. And - I've never said this before - be extremely careful about contact between him and his kids.

Flatulence · 14/01/2024 20:28

Itsbritneybitch22 · 14/01/2024 20:20

He’s a prick but there must be more to it if you’re willing to leave over what he said. Sounds to me like the relationship is probably done.

I don't even have kids - I'm barren af.
But if my DH said the sort of shit that OP's husband had said I'd really, seriously, be looking up the details of divorce lawyers and getting my ducks in a row asap.
The level of disrespect - nay, utter contempt - he's shown OP, especially given all her health struggles and despite the fact they already have 3 DC - is sickening.

Throwhandsupintheair · 14/01/2024 20:40

Wow, he has so little respect, or clearly even love for you, that he’s willing to risk you dying in childbirth to have another child.

What a weird and nasty prick.

SwordToFlamethrower · 14/01/2024 20:42

LTB LTB LTB LTB LTB

This post has horrified me, raged me and broken my heart.

You poor, poor sweet mama. I'm so sorry for your traumas and your sad losses. I can't imagine how hard it has been, both emotionally and physically for you.

What a horrible, nasty, vile bastard "it" is!

Children deserve better than a man who treats their mother like a domestic appliance.

How utterly cold and despicable he is.

I'd be telling everyone what he thinks of you and what he has said. Get rid of the waste of space. Be free and happy, WITHOUT him.

LTB

PeloMom · 14/01/2024 20:48

It’s ultimatum time- therapy for him go work through his feelings and marital counselling or divorce. Sounds like he is resentful and now you’re getting resentful due to the way he speaks to you (and you’re completely justified). Just out of curiosity is he at least a decent parent and partner, someone who pulls his weight and does his fair share? Or just wants to procreate as long as someone else (you) does all the work?

Snowdogsmitten · 14/01/2024 20:51

Couple’s therapy is not recommended with an abusive partner. And this heap of shit is abusive. He has spoken to the OP with utter, utter contempt. Not only that, he accused her of cheating based on a car seat’s location. He wants her consistently stifled by either pregnancy or a newborn, ergo, trapped at home and vulnerable, and under his control.

Abuser.

YouJustDoYou · 14/01/2024 20:52

He's either cheating and is therefore projecting it on you, or he's just a natural scumbag arsehole. I would fall right out of love with a man behaving like that.

AzureBlue99 · 14/01/2024 20:53

He is a cruel man. Someone I would not want to be around.

emilysquest · 14/01/2024 20:54

No to couples therapy. It will just make things worse. Get out of there.

LuckySantangelo35 · 14/01/2024 20:55

Folklore9074 · 14/01/2024 19:56

Well maybe, but real life isn’t as easy as just LTB is it? Especially with three kids. Trying to get a bit of healthy dialogue going is worth a shot whatever the ultimate outcome

@Folklore9074

no.

three kids regardless, there is no salvaging this marriage. This man is abhorrent and op deserves better.

AhNowTed · 14/01/2024 21:00

@LuckySantangelo35

Agree. There's no coming back from being treated like a brood mare.

As as I've said before, I find his attitude creepy, bordering on 'pregnancy fetish'.