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I can’t move past what my husband said

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Whattodowow · 14/01/2024 15:10

I have been married for nearly 11 years now.
We have 3 children together all under the ages of 9.

Now husband and me have been quite argumentative recently and maybe just sort of hit a plateau in our relationship. I imagine this happens in most marriages/long term relationships at some points.

Anyway we were just conversing as normal and he told me that his brother and his wife are expecting a baby in a few months and his newly married sister is expecting a baby too. I replied happily to that news as it’s something to be celebrated.

So anyway as we were conversing he said to me “shame we’re not pregnant” and I sensed he was telling me of their pregnancies in a comparison sort of way which I found weird. This isn’t the comment I can’t move on from though. That comes further down.

A few days earlier I went out with a few female friends and as I was sat in car before setting off to go out, I was looking for my eyeliner which dropped next to passenger seat therefore I pushed the seat back looking for it before I set off to drive. I didn’t end up pushing the seat back to its original position because I was in a rush and didn't think anything of this.

When I came back home (he was at home with the kids) he then quickly nipped out used our car and accused me of having met up with a guy that evening because the seat was pushed back very far and that guys usually sit like that. (I met up with my female friends that evening).
It was late in the evening and I was tired and couldn’t be bothered to entertain an argument with him.
Now we move on to the bit that I can’t move past. He said “whoever it is, he can have you as your tubes are no good anyway”. Tubes as in fallopian tubes. He decided to sleep downstairs that night. I was in shock but had to prioritise sleep as I had work the next morning.

I have had 3 children with this man. 1st birth was traumatic and ended up in an emergency c section where I was put to sleep. 2nd birth I had to be induced and have an episiotomy but managed a vaginal birth. 3rd birth was straightforward vaginal birth but baby was very big at 9lb 11oz and I struggled with severe pelvic girdle pain throughout that pregnancy. In between them pregnancies I had 4 miscarriages. I also had an ectopic pregnancy in my right tube which burst whilst I was at work one day and had to have it removed via an emergency operation , I was bleeding internally and could have died. Bad luck happened a few months after my initial ectopic pregnancy as I then had another ectopic pregnancy in my left tube but they luckily managed to save that tube but it is scarred and I had to have surgery again to remove that pregnancy.
The consultant told me I have a very low chance of ever getting pregnant naturally and that it could result in a 3rd ectopic pregnancy and if I ever wanted to have more children it would most likely have to be via IVF which I would have to fund myself.

The ectopic pregnancies happened after I had my 3rd child so it’s not like I didn’t want to have more kids. We tried and unfortunately I ended up having 2 back to back ectopics.

Since the comments from him the only conversations I have been having with him is regarding the kids and anything important.

Our youngest is 2 years old nearly 3 and i have found life quite tough since she was born as she has been a challenging child, however she seems to be a lot more happier recently. I won’t go into too much detail about her.

I have said to him a number of times that I don’t want anymore kids unfortunately due to everything I have been through fertility wise, the toll it’s had on my body and generally enjoying the stage the older two kids are in because they can do a lot for themselves.
He has never been able to accept that I said I don’t want anymore kids and I said that’s fine but unfortunately sometimes life events happen that’s out of our control and makes people reflect and for me these are one of them situations. I have told him he is very ungrateful for the things he already has in his life.

He has for a while now been saying little comments here and there of ohh “we could have had another baby by now” or “oh what’s the point of you having periods if you don’t want anymore kids”. Things like that which I find disgusting.

Again this is one of them situations where the kids love their dad to bits and it would break their heart if we separated. I on the other hand can’t really look at him the same after the “your tubes are no good anyway”

He has since apologised but it was half hearted apology and said that he “crossed a line”. He’s like iv done my bit by apologising.

AIBU to not move past what he said to me? And would this be the end of your relationship if this happened to you?

OP posts:
101Nutella · 14/01/2024 16:41

You are so much more than just a uterus.

this man is horrible and verbally abusive- he knew it would devastate you and he accused you of cheating. Either he has got a guilty conscience or he’s controlling.

no is a full sentence. Know your worth. Good luck. Please (if you don’t already) curate a lovely life for yourself with other friends and relatives so you aren’t as affected by this man when he next decides to have a strop and say unacceptable things.

GreyBlackLove · 14/01/2024 16:42

One thing to keep in mind here: couple counselling is not advised in relationships where there is abuse. In the one post from OP there are already 3 or 4 red flags for potential abuse and control.

Sartre · 14/01/2024 16:44

What a vile man.

Polecat07 · 14/01/2024 16:45

I couldn't love this man and would be making plans to leave.

Channellingsophistication · 14/01/2024 16:46

He’s horrible and controlling…you have been through so much and this is how he behaves !!

Anonymouse2019 · 14/01/2024 16:47

I find the fact that he asked "what'd the point in you having periods..." almost as bad as "your tubes are no good anyway". He actually said that to a woman like she has a fucking choice in the matter. What's the point in him breathing?

What an insensitive, vile specimen he is being. I couldn't ever forgive him for what he's said.

If there's any shred of your marriage left then consider relationship counselling, otherwise show him the door and a very pointy stiletto. Utter prick!

Caerulea · 14/01/2024 16:49

Of course you shouldn't get over this.

Ask yourself what makes this relationship worth even trying to get beyond what he's said & implied here? 'The children' is never ever the answer. Never!

You've given enough & you've got 3 lovely children for it.

Olika · 14/01/2024 16:50

Absolutely disgusting! I couldn't be nearby him after that. You really need your re-consider your marriage.

Lwrenagain · 14/01/2024 16:56

@Whattodowow I'm sorry for your losses.

I've mentioned it over the years quite a bit on here but losing my pregancy and tube to an ectopic pregnancy really messed me up. If Mr lwren said something that cutting I'd genuinely not want to look at him again. We all say shitty things but an ectopic is traumatic on so many levels. That and of course with your miscarriages, that obviously will have devastated you also, so there just isn't much wiggle room for forgiveness with that I'm afraid for me.

My dp took a very long time to recover from my ectopic, he more worried about losing me as much as he was grieving what to us was a much loved and wanted pregnancy so I can't imagine how fucking belittled and almost degraded I'd feel had he ever made me feel like it was my body's fault for our loss.

The more I think about it the more I hope you do get him gone, what a selfish and horrid gobshite. You've had 3 beautiful DC, 3 more than millions of people desperate for kiddos get, what's his fucking drama? Arsehole.

You deserve the world, he deserves a kick in the bollocks x

StaunchMomma · 14/01/2024 16:57

Why is he treating you like a baby making machine? It's disrespectful and utterly cretinous!

Has he always been like this about kids? If not, I can't help but think maybe this is all stemming from him feeling a bit vulnerable about the relationship. Maybe he thinks you're more likely to stay with him if you have more kids?

Not that I want to make excuses for him when he's acting like such a momentous twat!

arethereanyleftatall · 14/01/2024 17:00

All kids love their parents absolutely regardless of what cold hearted abusive horrors they are. It's been seen time and time again from broken hearted foster parents who do everything for a child only to hear that child begging for their abusive bio parent. It's all they know.

Your kids will not be broken hearted. Sure, they'll probably be confused at first, it's not the Disney norm is it. But, they will be far far happier and well rounded people in the long run to not come from an abusive home.

MahShinyShoes · 14/01/2024 17:00

Jesus OP. How have you not lost your shit with this man child already?

He's got 3 lovely kids & despite all your health problems & distressing experiences, he's passive aggressively griping about not having a fourth?

He needs to grow the fuck up. Why does he even want kids if he thinks you're cheating? To tie you down?

Out of interest, has he been a really hands on dad & done his fair share of the labour that kids bring? 50% drop offs, dentists, plays & assemblies, night wakes and nappies?

He sounds awful & you sound like you need help to escape.

Hernameisdeborah · 14/01/2024 17:00

Completely echo others' comments. You deserve much better than this abusive arsehole.

Cherrysherbet · 14/01/2024 17:03

He’s a waste of air.

Leave op. I couldn’t move past that, and I wouldn’t want to.

Spomsored · 14/01/2024 17:04

Sounds like he thinks your only value is to bear children. He can't even do that, what's he worth?

FuckityFuckBollocks · 14/01/2024 17:06

I don’t understand why some people make other peoples pregnancies/babies about them. Yes his siblings are having babies but your DH already has THREE! Why can’t he just be happy for his DB and Dsis rather than just thinking about himself??

ThisIsntThe80sPat · 14/01/2024 17:07

Horrible piece of shit.

I'd be making plans to leave.

user1473878824 · 14/01/2024 17:09

What a horrible cunt

MikeRafone · 14/01/2024 17:09

That's a really very unkind thing to say, what I find so very cruel is you both went through the situation of losing babies by miscarriage, therefore surely he would know the pain these comments would cause you. He is celery struggling to come to terms with the fact he isn't going to have any more children - but its no good being cruel to his dp and mother of 3 of his children.

Whilst I agree he needs to be grateful for what he does have, perhaps the problem is seeming form not moving on from the losing of the babies he didn't have. Solution would be to address that part of his life and somehow get him to face up to that properly rather than taking it out on you.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 14/01/2024 17:09

ncforthisthreadonly24 · 14/01/2024 15:50

Not much more to add but this. My jaw was on the floor reading the things he's said to you OP. Just awful Flowers

My jaw too.
It must have felt as if you'd had a rug pulled out from under you. How cruel and intentionally wounding after everything you've already been through. Flowers

His apology was grudging.

Ilovecakey · 14/01/2024 17:11

That's an evil thing he said to you after what you went through!

PickAChew · 14/01/2024 17:12

I couldn't get past those comments, either. He's told you how little he thinks of you and couldn't bring himself to make a sincere apology.

NonPlayerCharacter · 14/01/2024 17:12

Pretty clear cut case of a man who sees pregnancy as a way to control and abuse his partner.

Waitingfor5pm · 14/01/2024 17:13

Can't think of anything worse that I've read on here in the last year that I've been on the website. I'd say every time you see him you must hear that disgusting, despicable comment about your tubes. You've had 3 children together, he knows your medical history but he's trying to make you feel bad about it still? How many bloody children would he like, 7, 8?! 3 is a lot these days. I'm sorry you chose to have any of them with that cretin.

StrawberryWater · 14/01/2024 17:14

He’s disgusting.

Don’t put up with it.

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