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I can’t move past what my husband said

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Whattodowow · 14/01/2024 15:10

I have been married for nearly 11 years now.
We have 3 children together all under the ages of 9.

Now husband and me have been quite argumentative recently and maybe just sort of hit a plateau in our relationship. I imagine this happens in most marriages/long term relationships at some points.

Anyway we were just conversing as normal and he told me that his brother and his wife are expecting a baby in a few months and his newly married sister is expecting a baby too. I replied happily to that news as it’s something to be celebrated.

So anyway as we were conversing he said to me “shame we’re not pregnant” and I sensed he was telling me of their pregnancies in a comparison sort of way which I found weird. This isn’t the comment I can’t move on from though. That comes further down.

A few days earlier I went out with a few female friends and as I was sat in car before setting off to go out, I was looking for my eyeliner which dropped next to passenger seat therefore I pushed the seat back looking for it before I set off to drive. I didn’t end up pushing the seat back to its original position because I was in a rush and didn't think anything of this.

When I came back home (he was at home with the kids) he then quickly nipped out used our car and accused me of having met up with a guy that evening because the seat was pushed back very far and that guys usually sit like that. (I met up with my female friends that evening).
It was late in the evening and I was tired and couldn’t be bothered to entertain an argument with him.
Now we move on to the bit that I can’t move past. He said “whoever it is, he can have you as your tubes are no good anyway”. Tubes as in fallopian tubes. He decided to sleep downstairs that night. I was in shock but had to prioritise sleep as I had work the next morning.

I have had 3 children with this man. 1st birth was traumatic and ended up in an emergency c section where I was put to sleep. 2nd birth I had to be induced and have an episiotomy but managed a vaginal birth. 3rd birth was straightforward vaginal birth but baby was very big at 9lb 11oz and I struggled with severe pelvic girdle pain throughout that pregnancy. In between them pregnancies I had 4 miscarriages. I also had an ectopic pregnancy in my right tube which burst whilst I was at work one day and had to have it removed via an emergency operation , I was bleeding internally and could have died. Bad luck happened a few months after my initial ectopic pregnancy as I then had another ectopic pregnancy in my left tube but they luckily managed to save that tube but it is scarred and I had to have surgery again to remove that pregnancy.
The consultant told me I have a very low chance of ever getting pregnant naturally and that it could result in a 3rd ectopic pregnancy and if I ever wanted to have more children it would most likely have to be via IVF which I would have to fund myself.

The ectopic pregnancies happened after I had my 3rd child so it’s not like I didn’t want to have more kids. We tried and unfortunately I ended up having 2 back to back ectopics.

Since the comments from him the only conversations I have been having with him is regarding the kids and anything important.

Our youngest is 2 years old nearly 3 and i have found life quite tough since she was born as she has been a challenging child, however she seems to be a lot more happier recently. I won’t go into too much detail about her.

I have said to him a number of times that I don’t want anymore kids unfortunately due to everything I have been through fertility wise, the toll it’s had on my body and generally enjoying the stage the older two kids are in because they can do a lot for themselves.
He has never been able to accept that I said I don’t want anymore kids and I said that’s fine but unfortunately sometimes life events happen that’s out of our control and makes people reflect and for me these are one of them situations. I have told him he is very ungrateful for the things he already has in his life.

He has for a while now been saying little comments here and there of ohh “we could have had another baby by now” or “oh what’s the point of you having periods if you don’t want anymore kids”. Things like that which I find disgusting.

Again this is one of them situations where the kids love their dad to bits and it would break their heart if we separated. I on the other hand can’t really look at him the same after the “your tubes are no good anyway”

He has since apologised but it was half hearted apology and said that he “crossed a line”. He’s like iv done my bit by apologising.

AIBU to not move past what he said to me? And would this be the end of your relationship if this happened to you?

OP posts:
Mistymist · 14/01/2024 17:15

This must be one of the most shocking and disturbing things I have read lately.
I am so sorry for the losses and the struggles.
I agree with the others, he is a horrible man, after all the trauma you have suffered he still sees your value in your fertility. Unforgivable!

TTCSoManyQuestions88 · 14/01/2024 17:16

What a horrible man.

You have 3 children, that's more than most people! Why the need to keep you pregnant or running around after a baby? He sounds controlling and unpleasant, just sees women as incubators. Fuck him.

Unfortunately now you won't breed for him anymore, he'll probably get more and more unpleasant and eventually leave you for a younger model. I'd get my ducks in a row before he ruins your self esteem and your future.

FuckBalledTwattyPiss · 14/01/2024 17:17

How can he possibly want you to risk another pregnancy after all you have been through? And what does he want more children for anyway? His own football team?

ginasevern · 14/01/2024 17:17

How many kids does he want for god's sake. Three is more than enough in this day and age. Is this a cultural or religious thing? Either way, he's an abusive cunt and a nasty excuse for a human being and you need to get him out of your life.

SchoolQuestionnaire · 14/01/2024 17:18

SgtJuneAckland · 14/01/2024 15:20

Why does he want to keep you constantly pregnant or with a new born? It reeks of control to me. His comments about your fertility indicate he views you as nothing other than an incubator and the accusation of cheating because you'd moved a car seat speaks to his sexual jealousy. He has all the hallmarks of an abusive partner. Take your children and get away from him

Edited

This was my thought too.

He seems like a controlling bastard who wants to keep you pregnant and stuck at home with the kids. How is he normally when you go out?

That aside you’ve given him three children already and been through hell to do so it seems. He should be counting his blessings everyday that you are still here and thankful for his lovely healthy family. Instead he’s moaning that it’s not enough. I couldn’t forgive this. He’s shown his true colours here.

LuckySantangelo35 · 14/01/2024 17:18

Just dump him op

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 14/01/2024 17:20

Are all your children daughters by any chance?

tachetastic · 14/01/2024 17:22

Whattodowow · 14/01/2024 15:10

I have been married for nearly 11 years now.
We have 3 children together all under the ages of 9.

Now husband and me have been quite argumentative recently and maybe just sort of hit a plateau in our relationship. I imagine this happens in most marriages/long term relationships at some points.

Anyway we were just conversing as normal and he told me that his brother and his wife are expecting a baby in a few months and his newly married sister is expecting a baby too. I replied happily to that news as it’s something to be celebrated.

So anyway as we were conversing he said to me “shame we’re not pregnant” and I sensed he was telling me of their pregnancies in a comparison sort of way which I found weird. This isn’t the comment I can’t move on from though. That comes further down.

A few days earlier I went out with a few female friends and as I was sat in car before setting off to go out, I was looking for my eyeliner which dropped next to passenger seat therefore I pushed the seat back looking for it before I set off to drive. I didn’t end up pushing the seat back to its original position because I was in a rush and didn't think anything of this.

When I came back home (he was at home with the kids) he then quickly nipped out used our car and accused me of having met up with a guy that evening because the seat was pushed back very far and that guys usually sit like that. (I met up with my female friends that evening).
It was late in the evening and I was tired and couldn’t be bothered to entertain an argument with him.
Now we move on to the bit that I can’t move past. He said “whoever it is, he can have you as your tubes are no good anyway”. Tubes as in fallopian tubes. He decided to sleep downstairs that night. I was in shock but had to prioritise sleep as I had work the next morning.

I have had 3 children with this man. 1st birth was traumatic and ended up in an emergency c section where I was put to sleep. 2nd birth I had to be induced and have an episiotomy but managed a vaginal birth. 3rd birth was straightforward vaginal birth but baby was very big at 9lb 11oz and I struggled with severe pelvic girdle pain throughout that pregnancy. In between them pregnancies I had 4 miscarriages. I also had an ectopic pregnancy in my right tube which burst whilst I was at work one day and had to have it removed via an emergency operation , I was bleeding internally and could have died. Bad luck happened a few months after my initial ectopic pregnancy as I then had another ectopic pregnancy in my left tube but they luckily managed to save that tube but it is scarred and I had to have surgery again to remove that pregnancy.
The consultant told me I have a very low chance of ever getting pregnant naturally and that it could result in a 3rd ectopic pregnancy and if I ever wanted to have more children it would most likely have to be via IVF which I would have to fund myself.

The ectopic pregnancies happened after I had my 3rd child so it’s not like I didn’t want to have more kids. We tried and unfortunately I ended up having 2 back to back ectopics.

Since the comments from him the only conversations I have been having with him is regarding the kids and anything important.

Our youngest is 2 years old nearly 3 and i have found life quite tough since she was born as she has been a challenging child, however she seems to be a lot more happier recently. I won’t go into too much detail about her.

I have said to him a number of times that I don’t want anymore kids unfortunately due to everything I have been through fertility wise, the toll it’s had on my body and generally enjoying the stage the older two kids are in because they can do a lot for themselves.
He has never been able to accept that I said I don’t want anymore kids and I said that’s fine but unfortunately sometimes life events happen that’s out of our control and makes people reflect and for me these are one of them situations. I have told him he is very ungrateful for the things he already has in his life.

He has for a while now been saying little comments here and there of ohh “we could have had another baby by now” or “oh what’s the point of you having periods if you don’t want anymore kids”. Things like that which I find disgusting.

Again this is one of them situations where the kids love their dad to bits and it would break their heart if we separated. I on the other hand can’t really look at him the same after the “your tubes are no good anyway”

He has since apologised but it was half hearted apology and said that he “crossed a line”. He’s like iv done my bit by apologising.

AIBU to not move past what he said to me? And would this be the end of your relationship if this happened to you?

Was he spoilt by his parents, because he's acting like a spolit brat who is acting up because he can't have the new toy he wants and is taking it out on you.

It's a horrible, horrible thing to say, when you are the person that gave birth to all three of your wonderful children even though it nearly cost you your life. He should be out there telling everyone what an amazing wife he has, not throwing frankly stupid insults at you.

Think very carefully about your relationship. You said that you were arguing a lot lately, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it is time to leave him. I do think it would be useful to sit down with him and have an honest conversation where you list all the great things you have in your life, including those amazing kids, and all the things that you would like to achieve together, including those things you might be able to achieve (a new house, a dog, a paid off mortgage) and those that you would like but realistically you cannot (more kids, that he had a bigger dick, be 10 years younger).

Then you can say whether all that is worth fighting for, and so can he. If you both think it is then you both need to agree that this arguing and spiteful comments need to stop immediately.

If one of you thinks it isn't worth fighting for, then you should consider counselling or even separating, but don't walk out because of one thing he said. It was a dick comment but you will find a way to get over it if he gets his act together and starts celebrating what he has rather than being pissed off that he can't have everything he wants, like some entitled little prince.

BluePorcupine · 14/01/2024 17:23

I put myself in the camp of if you have children you should try hard to save the marriage/relationship. But this has turned my stomach. Horrible. I don’t think I could get past this. So sorry this has happened to you op. Just sickening.

Ghostgirl77 · 14/01/2024 17:25

He wants you pregnant or caring for a newborn because he’s insecure and doesn’t trust you not to cheat, therefore he wants you to be unattractive to men (pregnant) or stuck at home with a baby. It’s also possible he’s cheating and therefore wants you kept busy at home.

I’m willing to bet you carry most of the load caring for the kids you have already.

Drinkinggreentea · 14/01/2024 17:30

I'm very angry for you. This is sick. He's treating you like livestock.

Doggymummar · 14/01/2024 17:34

9 pregnancies in 11 years. I would be filing for divorce this very day what an utter shit.

AyeDeadOn · 14/01/2024 17:36

He is cruel and nasty and he has no respect for you. He will never be a good partner and he cannot be a good father if he treats his children's mother so poorly yet continues to live there. I hope you leave him or get him to leave. This is no way to live.

Toooldforthis36 · 14/01/2024 17:42

He’s a pig

Whattodowow · 14/01/2024 17:44

@Allthegoodnamesarechosen
No, I have 1 boy and 2 girls. The eldest is a boy. So we have both and that’s again lucky.

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SaulHudsonDavidJones · 14/01/2024 17:44

I'm always shocked that men like this end up married with kids. Should have left him on the shelf. Yuck.

Catdoorman · 14/01/2024 17:47

You poor darling, you've risked your life to be a mother, you're a very strong woman, do you realise that? he's a spoilt bully who does not value you at all. How can things get any better? I don't think this is a bump in the road, this is him showing you who he is. You and the children deserve so much better. I hope you can find some help, maybe family or friends? Don't keep this to yourself, none of this is normal.

DewHopper · 14/01/2024 17:50

Leave. This. Horrible. Fucking. Creep.

OneMorePlant · 14/01/2024 17:54

Whattodowow · 14/01/2024 17:44

@Allthegoodnamesarechosen
No, I have 1 boy and 2 girls. The eldest is a boy. So we have both and that’s again lucky.

Is he a good father or is most of the child care falling to you?

Because there are men out there that have a pregnancy fetish and want their wives constantly pregnant but don't care about the kids. I'm only mentioning this because of the creepy comments about the other women he knows being pregnant.

OP you deserve more than this. Don't let this be your life, you can have a better one.

StaunchMomma · 14/01/2024 17:55

SaulHudsonDavidJones · 14/01/2024 17:44

I'm always shocked that men like this end up married with kids. Should have left him on the shelf. Yuck.

They don't show their cuntiness at first though, do they!

BobbyBiscuits · 14/01/2024 17:59

He is being emotionally abusive and co-ercing you to have a pregnancy which could damage you irreperably and as the doctors said, unlikely to succeed.
This is vile behaviour. I would not be able to be with someone who treated my scarred and weakened body like a baby factory. You need to seek help from a counsellor for yourself, and think carefully if you want to stay. If not seek legal advice ASAP. You deserve much better than him, even if that means being single.

Whattodowow · 14/01/2024 18:04

@Raisinypeanut

It’s cliche, I thought we could be the couple that would last forever no matter what.
I don’t know i do feel like what im feeling lately is resentment towards him. Which is a strong feeling to have but i think justified for the things he’s said.

And yes initially we agreed on having 4 children. If it were up to him he would probably have more. But obviously because events out of my control happened I made the decision and informed him that I don’t want anymore kids.
He is obviously mourning and unable to cope with this revelation. I have told him before that if the fact I don’t want anymore children makes him decide to want leave and go with another woman I would never stand in his way.

It’s ok saying someone wants more kids but its not like it’s easy bringing up children and all the responsibility that comes with it. It’s a life long commitment. 3 kids is already hard enough.

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Terzani · 14/01/2024 18:05

Is this man a Catholic? Some traditionalist Catholics are like that, dehumanised and obsessed to have as many children as they can, regardless of their wives' health.

TTCquestion · 14/01/2024 18:08

Phineyj · 14/01/2024 15:25

Yikes! You've been pregnant 9 times.

Who does he think he is, one of those monarchs who'd just expect pregnancy after pregnancy till there's a heir and a spare?!

When you put it like this! Nine pregnancies, two potentially life threatening ectopics and he said that….

He’s a disgusting pig OP. You’d be better off without him. I couldn’t bear engaging in polite conversation with him ever again, let alone having his grubby mitts on me when intimate or having him kiss me. Yuck!

Divorce the bastard.

ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 14/01/2024 18:08

@Whattodowow do you realise you are excusing this words and behaviour? "He is mourning and unable to cope"

Nothing and I mean absolutely nothing, excuses who he spoke to you. What he said is inexcusable. You are far more than just a baby maker. This really is horrific. Would you consider talking to women's aid?