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Kyle Walker

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Hocuspocusnonsense · 13/01/2024 14:10

Much as I try to advice this kind of ‘news’ it is everywhere atm.

Anyone else reading this news and thinking if he wasn’t a footballer he’d just be a waste of space cock lodger?

I continue to be amazed at what women will tolerate for the sake of money or in the pursuit of fame.

Basically he fathered a child with another woman whilst being married. His wife stood by him. He publicly declared OW was nothing to him. He’s now admitted he’s the father of the OW’s second child. His wife has kicked him out but I wouldn’t be surprised if she takes him back and it seems the OW is doing the pick me dance.

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Beezknees · 18/01/2024 16:17

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 16:12

I'm not being flippant. I'm not saying SS should sweep them out of there tomorrow, because obviously there are kids in more need. But I don't think she's a good parent. And I do think they'd be better off raised outside of this mess.
All I see is a woman running through other people's money, with no sense of accountability and two children who will have questions about their lives, a father who doesn't want them and a mother who thinks their existence entitles her to vast sums of someone else's cash and a lifestyle she could never afford without them!

Many parents aren't good parents. Mine weren't particularly great. I still would not have wanted to be adopted. That can also be damaging.

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 16:29

I don't dispute that there are issues around adoption. Not least because it's a best fit solution to something having broken.
But I also think there's a tendency to believe a parent is doing a good enough job if children have their basic physical needs met and no one is actively hurting them. But the situation these kids will grow up in is likely to hurt them too imo.

KW had made it clear his dc with his wife are his priority (as much as a person like this is capable of considering anyone's needs beyond his own). He won't see the children he has with LG, so they are already second class citizens to the children of his marriage. And all LG seems concerned with is how much money she can get. Those kids don't appear to be anyone's priority. I think they deserve better than the parents they've been landed with.

whatsitcalledwhen · 18/01/2024 16:31

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 16:12

I'm not being flippant. I'm not saying SS should sweep them out of there tomorrow, because obviously there are kids in more need. But I don't think she's a good parent. And I do think they'd be better off raised outside of this mess.
All I see is a woman running through other people's money, with no sense of accountability and two children who will have questions about their lives, a father who doesn't want them and a mother who thinks their existence entitles her to vast sums of someone else's cash and a lifestyle she could never afford without them!

It's incredibly flippant to say a child would be 'better off adopted' in the circumstances as far as we know them in this instance.

It shows a complete lack of understanding of the adoption process and the effects on all parties involved, especially the children.

Saying that a child entering the care system is preferable to them living with their mother in the circumstances as far as we know them, means you don't have an understanding of all that adoption involves.

I'm not saying you should do, by the way. But I do think you should know that it is indeed a flippant and thoughtless thing to suggest.

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 16:32

I guess it depends on what you think is better for them in the long run. Time will tell

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 16:43

People with no morals can't teach them to their children.
I truly don't see how a person can be a good parent when they have no sense of decency themselves. Being a good parent means instilling moral values. How can you do this if you don't seem to have many yourself and your children are your main source of income?
Serious question but do posters really think no harm will come your way these children emotionally from being raised in this environment?

Beezknees · 18/01/2024 16:45

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 16:43

People with no morals can't teach them to their children.
I truly don't see how a person can be a good parent when they have no sense of decency themselves. Being a good parent means instilling moral values. How can you do this if you don't seem to have many yourself and your children are your main source of income?
Serious question but do posters really think no harm will come your way these children emotionally from being raised in this environment?

So should Kyle's other kids be removed then as he has no morals and arguably neither does his wife as she's happy to enable their father bringing prostitutes into their home?

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 16:57

I think the other children's situation is different in that they aren't being directly monetised in order to provide income for their mother.
I'd be very surprised if AK 'happily' enabled her husband to bring prostitutes into their house. IMHO she should divorce him and keep him as far away as possible from their dc. I don't see how his influence can do any good.

InAMess2023 · 18/01/2024 17:01

@Beezknees he never brought prostitutes to their home

Beezknees · 18/01/2024 17:03

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 16:57

I think the other children's situation is different in that they aren't being directly monetised in order to provide income for their mother.
I'd be very surprised if AK 'happily' enabled her husband to bring prostitutes into their house. IMHO she should divorce him and keep him as far away as possible from their dc. I don't see how his influence can do any good.

See, now you're just picking and choosing as to what you think is morally reprehensible or not.

Beezknees · 18/01/2024 17:04

InAMess2023 · 18/01/2024 17:01

@Beezknees he never brought prostitutes to their home

He did. During lockdown. He made a public apology for it. Or "sex workers" if that's the preferred term, but we all know what they were there for.

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 17:08

Not at all. I think monetising the kids for income is what makes things worse for LG's children.

Beezknees · 18/01/2024 17:11

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 17:08

Not at all. I think monetising the kids for income is what makes things worse for LG's children.

My dad was in and out of prison for far worse things. Still if I had been taken away I'd have been devastated. They are very young children who only know their mother.

InAMess2023 · 18/01/2024 17:13

@Beezknees no he didn't. That was at a flat in Manchester. I don't agree with him doing that obviously but it wasn't at their marital home where his wife was still living

Can't believe how many people on here are still trying to vilify AK for any part in this

dayswithaY · 18/01/2024 17:13

The court docs are hilarious. I didn’t realise it was essential to have a Louis Vuitton changing bag and the baby needed a constant stream of new toys to keep him stimulated. How do other children manage without these things?

And the idea of an 18 year old boy still having a Nanny! What is she supposed to do with a teenager? Accompany him to Sixth Form parties and follow him into the garden when he pukes from too much vodka Red Bull? Sit next to him on his driving lessons?

And if Lauryn’s health is so bad - she can’t lift the baby out of his high chair, bedridden, sick, exhausted, etc - how and why did she conceive baby number 2?

How was this sick, exhausted, drained, and wracked with pain woman so irresistible to Vyle Walker? Especially after they went head to head in a bitter court dispute over changing bags and security gates.

If I was his wife I’d despair at what a shit judge of character he is, more than anything else.

Beezknees · 18/01/2024 17:14

InAMess2023 · 18/01/2024 17:13

@Beezknees no he didn't. That was at a flat in Manchester. I don't agree with him doing that obviously but it wasn't at their marital home where his wife was still living

Can't believe how many people on here are still trying to vilify AK for any part in this

OK. Still, she knew about it and stayed with him. I'll vilify any woman who stats with a man who thinks women can be bought like objects. All 3 adults are grim.

whatsitcalledwhen · 18/01/2024 17:14

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 17:08

Not at all. I think monetising the kids for income is what makes things worse for LG's children.

Bad enough to be put up for adoption though?

As someone adopted, who is familiar with the system, it's absolutely not an appropriate or proportionate suggestion based on the circumstances we know.

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 17:15

If I understood the court papers correctly, she wanted to still receive the nanny money when her child was 18 and off to university. I think she wanted it paid directly to her at that point.

Vivi0 · 18/01/2024 17:20

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 16:57

I think the other children's situation is different in that they aren't being directly monetised in order to provide income for their mother.
I'd be very surprised if AK 'happily' enabled her husband to bring prostitutes into their house. IMHO she should divorce him and keep him as far away as possible from their dc. I don't see how his influence can do any good.

I think the other children's situation is different in that they aren't being directly monetised in order to provide income for their mother.

That is an entirely subjective viewpoint.

I’m sure after she had her first child, Kyle’s wife wasn’t losing sleep over her future if she and Kyle broke up.

If they had split then, her income would have been solely from child maintenance too - the same as the OW.

As has been said on this thread, she was really smart to marry him when she did to ensure that she did not simply walk away from the relationship with child maintenance only.

The marriage was strategic in order to secure more income from Kyle than child support. By your logic, that would be morally reprehensible too, right?

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 17:24

I do think it's less morally reprehensible to marry a long term partner in order to protect yourself and your children, than it is to deliberately target a rich man and get pregnant, expecting him to then bankroll you.

Vivi0 · 18/01/2024 17:24

whatsitcalledwhen · 18/01/2024 17:14

Bad enough to be put up for adoption though?

As someone adopted, who is familiar with the system, it's absolutely not an appropriate or proportionate suggestion based on the circumstances we know.

It’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve read on Mumsnet in a long time.

Beezknees · 18/01/2024 17:25

Vivi0 · 18/01/2024 17:20

I think the other children's situation is different in that they aren't being directly monetised in order to provide income for their mother.

That is an entirely subjective viewpoint.

I’m sure after she had her first child, Kyle’s wife wasn’t losing sleep over her future if she and Kyle broke up.

If they had split then, her income would have been solely from child maintenance too - the same as the OW.

As has been said on this thread, she was really smart to marry him when she did to ensure that she did not simply walk away from the relationship with child maintenance only.

The marriage was strategic in order to secure more income from Kyle than child support. By your logic, that would be morally reprehensible too, right?

Edited

Yep. No reason to believe Kyle's wife wasn't only after his money either. That's the reason most of these women date footballers, after all. I highly doubt there are many cases of "true love" in these scenarios.

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 17:27

I think marrying your childhood sweetheart is probably more about love than marrying a well established footballer who already has a reputation.

Beezknees · 18/01/2024 17:30

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 17:27

I think marrying your childhood sweetheart is probably more about love than marrying a well established footballer who already has a reputation.

He was well off and already playing for England when they met, he's 3 years older than her. He wasn't sweeping streets for a living.

InAMess2023 · 18/01/2024 17:39

@Beezknees they met when still at school. Long before he was even able to sign a professional contract and long before there was any guarantee that he'd go on to any success. Stop pulling 'facts' out of your arse and trying to make out his wife is some sort of gold digger. Unless you've been in that exact circumstance then you've no idea how you would react

Vivi0 · 18/01/2024 17:42

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 17:27

I think marrying your childhood sweetheart is probably more about love than marrying a well established footballer who already has a reputation.

Spare me the “childhood sweetheart” crap. He was a footballer when they met.

Are you telling me that you really believe that marrying your boyfriend and father of your children who you know regularly sleeps with escorts and has fathered a child with another woman, is about love?

She married him to secure her future. Or “monetised” it, if you will. I don’t have a problem that she will take him for everything that she can in the divorce. Nor do I have a problem with the OW asking for a nanny and for him to clear her debts. If Kyle doesn’t like it, maybe he shouldn’t have got married and maybe he should have used a condom, or better yet, not cheated prolifically on his wife.

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