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Kyle Walker

494 replies

Hocuspocusnonsense · 13/01/2024 14:10

Much as I try to advice this kind of ‘news’ it is everywhere atm.

Anyone else reading this news and thinking if he wasn’t a footballer he’d just be a waste of space cock lodger?

I continue to be amazed at what women will tolerate for the sake of money or in the pursuit of fame.

Basically he fathered a child with another woman whilst being married. His wife stood by him. He publicly declared OW was nothing to him. He’s now admitted he’s the father of the OW’s second child. His wife has kicked him out but I wouldn’t be surprised if she takes him back and it seems the OW is doing the pick me dance.

OP posts:
lostthelight · 17/01/2024 18:02

Mywhoopdeedoo · 17/01/2024 06:25

There’s an insta page called ‘Footballersandwags’ - copies of texts, court documents, all sorts

Thank you :)

InAMess2023 · 17/01/2024 18:12

@lostthelight

www.casemine.com/judgement/uk/623cbb95b50db948c50f282e

lostthelight · 17/01/2024 18:18

InAMess2023 · 17/01/2024 18:12

Thank you. Been looking for this everywhere. You are Wonder Woman.

caringcarer · 17/01/2024 19:31

SideshowAuntSallyx · 13/01/2024 18:34

The one thing you can say for Cheryl Cole/Tweedy is that when she found out Ashley was cheating she gave him the boot.

These WAGS could follow suit, not like they won't be set up for life!

Edited

Yes I remember Cheryl dumping Ashley Cole. Huge respect to her for that.

InAMess2023 · 17/01/2024 19:39

@lostthelight enjoy! You may need a stiff drink afterwards...

Beenalongwinter · 17/01/2024 20:23

@Ponoka7
Do you mean lizzie Cundy?

Kyle Walker
PinkEasterbunny · 17/01/2024 22:32

Fair play to Lizzie Cundy, she’s kept herself in the spotlight remarkably well after a fairly brief marriage to a middle-of-the-road footballer!

lostthelight · 17/01/2024 23:39

InAMess2023 · 17/01/2024 19:39

@lostthelight enjoy! You may need a stiff drink afterwards...

Is it me or is she just being ridiculous? £1,500 for beauty treatments, £££ for debts that SHE occurred, designer changing bag/handbag, paying the mother 2 grand (when she lives her) for child minding. This is not about the child. This is about being vindictive. I do not underhand why she had a second child with someone who has publicly stated that he wants nothing to do with his son. It's just sad all around.

VisionsOfSplendour · 18/01/2024 05:59

lostthelight · 17/01/2024 18:18

Thank you. Been looking for this everywhere. You are Wonder Woman.

I don't know if they are the same ones but there's also some links earlier in this thread (not wonder woman, just clicked on someone elses link 😀)

Bella37 · 18/01/2024 06:27

she can’t be blamed for that though, what sort of a man would chose seeing their own child over being with a woman. If he wanted a relationship with his child he would’ve left his wife if it was her rule. I bet however that ow would make it difficult for him to see the child while he was married and put all silly rules in place like she had to be there all the time and wouldn’t drop her children off to join in with him and his other children and wife, as it seems like she is more interested in him and wrecking the marriage, than her children being part of his family and knowing their siblings and I’m sure she wouldn’t want wife around his illegitimate children etc.

Bella37 · 18/01/2024 06:33

Although obviously it doesn’t protect against STD I think he was under the impression she couldn’t have kids due to a gynaecological condition which she regularly documented and also said she was so public with the pregnancy not because of him but because it would give other women with the same condition “hope”.

InAMess2023 · 18/01/2024 07:23

@VisionsOfSplendour it was me who shared them the first time 🤣 easier just to reshare than go back through the comments

@lostthelight it's ridiculous isn't it, absolute delusions (not to mention lying about her illness). Done nothing but slag him off for years yet goes back to conceive cash cow number two... and he's just as bad!

InAMess2023 · 18/01/2024 07:25

@Bella37 maybe the first time but she can't have surely been still claiming to be infertile after having the first baby! Also in the court papers the judge said he could find one line in a brief letter from the GP referring to endometriosis, and caught her out going shopping every day in the week she claimed to be bedridden! I actually do have endo and my doctors notes will be jammed with evidence!

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 08:32

I think LG is an unfit parent. Monetising children is disgusting. Shes lied in order to get pregnant and knowing what an appalling father KW is to her first child, she deliberately had a second. That's putting her desire for KW's money ahead of making good parenting choices.
Those kids would be better off being adopted by a family who don't see them as a meal ticket and who won't be bringing gong them up in the shadow of this complete mess.

Bella37 · 18/01/2024 08:59

InAMess2023 · 18/01/2024 07:25

@Bella37 maybe the first time but she can't have surely been still claiming to be infertile after having the first baby! Also in the court papers the judge said he could find one line in a brief letter from the GP referring to endometriosis, and caught her out going shopping every day in the week she claimed to be bedridden! I actually do have endo and my doctors notes will be jammed with evidence!

Yes I didn't really think the second pregnancy thing out properly! Obviously it takes 2 but what an awful woman!

Vivi0 · 18/01/2024 11:47

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 08:32

I think LG is an unfit parent. Monetising children is disgusting. Shes lied in order to get pregnant and knowing what an appalling father KW is to her first child, she deliberately had a second. That's putting her desire for KW's money ahead of making good parenting choices.
Those kids would be better off being adopted by a family who don't see them as a meal ticket and who won't be bringing gong them up in the shadow of this complete mess.

The children are clearly cared for - how is she an “unfit parent”?

Children aren’t adopted out to other families because their mother is trying to get maximum child support from their multi-millionaire father, or because their mother “deliberately conceived them with an appalling father”. Neither of the child’s parents are actively neglecting them, or at risk of causing them physical harm. What a batshit comment to make!

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 12:04

Did you read the court ruling @Vivi0
It's the deliberate monetising of her children that makes her unfit.
Thinking the dad should finance a nanny for £24-35k per year until the child is 18!
Trying to make him pay her historic debts.
Expecting him to pay for designer accessories and holidays and her beauty treatments.
She sees those children as a meal ticket to a more luxurious life and that's what makes her unfit to parent them. That they have their physical needs met, isn't the only criteria for being parented properly!

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 12:06

He was paying £5,000 child support per month (plus other one off payments) and this wasn't enough to support one child? That's more than many families have coming in. And those families are expected to pay their own childcare bills too.

Vivi0 · 18/01/2024 12:15

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 12:04

Did you read the court ruling @Vivi0
It's the deliberate monetising of her children that makes her unfit.
Thinking the dad should finance a nanny for £24-35k per year until the child is 18!
Trying to make him pay her historic debts.
Expecting him to pay for designer accessories and holidays and her beauty treatments.
She sees those children as a meal ticket to a more luxurious life and that's what makes her unfit to parent them. That they have their physical needs met, isn't the only criteria for being parented properly!

None of that makes her an unfit parent, though.

If there were any concerns about her being unfit to parent, they would have been flagged by her midwives/health visitors. Social services would be involved.

She may be greedy and entitled, but her children are clearly cared for and having their needs met. Being greedy and entitled doesn’t make someone an unfit parent. It is nowhere near the criteria, thankfully, for adopting out that person’s children!

Vivi0 · 18/01/2024 12:15

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 12:06

He was paying £5,000 child support per month (plus other one off payments) and this wasn't enough to support one child? That's more than many families have coming in. And those families are expected to pay their own childcare bills too.

How does any of that make her an unfit parent, though?

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 12:26

@Vivi0 it makes her an unfit parent because she's using her children as a means of increasing her own income and lifestyle. She isn't motivated by what is best for her children but by what is most lucrative for her.
That's unfit parenting imo.

Social Services lack of involvement is neither here nor there. They are busy dealing with serious abuse and don't have the resources to intervene where parenting is sub optimal but not directly harmful. Still doesn't make her a good parent though!

Vivi0 · 18/01/2024 12:37

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 12:26

@Vivi0 it makes her an unfit parent because she's using her children as a means of increasing her own income and lifestyle. She isn't motivated by what is best for her children but by what is most lucrative for her.
That's unfit parenting imo.

Social Services lack of involvement is neither here nor there. They are busy dealing with serious abuse and don't have the resources to intervene where parenting is sub optimal but not directly harmful. Still doesn't make her a good parent though!

Edited

As you said, that’s your opinion. But it is certainly not what an unfit parent is.

It is batshit crazy to say:

Those kids would be better off being adopted by a family who don't see them as a meal ticket and who won't be bringing gong them up in the shadow of this complete mess.

It’s pretty disgusting to say that, actually. Who are you to say that someone’s children should be taken from them, simply because you don’t like the person.

She isn’t causing her children harm. Slate her all you want, but leave her children out of it.

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 12:54

Give over @Vivi0 . Her children can't be 'left out of it' because she's literally monetised them. That's the point of why I think she's unfit to parent!

You can think it's a disgusting thing to say, but it is my opinion that children are not best served in being raised by a woman who is using their existence as a means to rinse their rich father for as much money as she can get!
Being a fit parent is more than housing and feeding them. They are going to grow up and learn the sordid details around their conception, they will read the court documents and they will learn what kind of people their parents are. They will read about their mother borrowing money from her own 80+ year old grandparents, the expectation that KW should pay all her bills just because those children exist, that she expects to be expensively housed, have a new (expensive) car every few years, and generally spend vast amounts of money (that she hasn't earned) purely because she has children.

whatsitcalledwhen · 18/01/2024 16:01

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 12:54

Give over @Vivi0 . Her children can't be 'left out of it' because she's literally monetised them. That's the point of why I think she's unfit to parent!

You can think it's a disgusting thing to say, but it is my opinion that children are not best served in being raised by a woman who is using their existence as a means to rinse their rich father for as much money as she can get!
Being a fit parent is more than housing and feeding them. They are going to grow up and learn the sordid details around their conception, they will read the court documents and they will learn what kind of people their parents are. They will read about their mother borrowing money from her own 80+ year old grandparents, the expectation that KW should pay all her bills just because those children exist, that she expects to be expensively housed, have a new (expensive) car every few years, and generally spend vast amounts of money (that she hasn't earned) purely because she has children.

Adopted person here.

Children entering the care system in a the circumstances you describe would be ridiculous.

And of huge detriment to them.

'Putting children up for adoption' isn't something that you should flippantly suggest really.

LadyBird1973 · 18/01/2024 16:12

I'm not being flippant. I'm not saying SS should sweep them out of there tomorrow, because obviously there are kids in more need. But I don't think she's a good parent. And I do think they'd be better off raised outside of this mess.
All I see is a woman running through other people's money, with no sense of accountability and two children who will have questions about their lives, a father who doesn't want them and a mother who thinks their existence entitles her to vast sums of someone else's cash and a lifestyle she could never afford without them!