Sacked for using 'N' word

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I don't know how to copy link sorry but has anyone been following the story of the Lloyd's bank manager who was sacked for asking a relevant question in a so called anti racism training session by his employers but in his question he used the full 'N' word.
His question I believe was how would he be expected to deal with black employees or customers speaking to each other using that word.
The trainer was so offended by the word, she had to take 5 days off work. However, he got sacked.
He has since been awarded £500,00 but no apology from Lloyd's and no job back.
As far as we know, the ridiculous incompetent trainer is still employed.

I am close to this story but afraid to say how.
But will say that I'm losing sleep and furious more and more at this bank.

@VolvoFan I was going to mention this as DD who is 7 learns Spanish at school.

What am I reading you keep saying the word and see what happens to you.

Probably worth mentioning that the word in question is NOT illegal to use or write, if used actively as a racial slur, then it becomes part of racism legislation as that applies.

But if used in an academic or philosophical discussion (ie not as a slur, but rather discussion of its meaning, history use etc.) or it's other uses (it was a dog's name of a pilot in the dambusters raid and a codeword used in the operation) then it's quite legal.

And this is the point I think, the guy who was sacked was asking a question as to its use, not using it aggressively or with racist intent.

Inability to stop oneself using language well known to be offensive is not a characteristic of dyslexia.

And that's not what he said happened, nor what the judge ruled on. So, irrelevant.

I've read the tribunal report but this just does him no favours at all.

White middle-aged men are ‘bottom of everything’ says bank worker sacked over N word

I don't use it. It's a vulgar word, no matter who uses it. I'm sure that's the point from Lloyd's. It should never be used but in order for there to be progression, there shouldn't be exceptions for using it.

No, it doesn't help at all actually. When seeing discussions on here, I've seen people say have the courage to use the full word, when illustrating a point about racism. So don't come at me with that shit. You've completely ignored what I said to suit your point.

Mumsnet will not allow the word in full. I haven’t ignored it, your post was full of rubbish. The first line I highlighted set the tone. You’re not damned if you don’t use it at all. 🙄

Dyslexia doesn’t make you some sort of anagram champion.

What is the world coming to when,in this context,he was referring to how to respond to the ( awkward) situation of experiencing black people calling each other the N word.

He didn’t call them that at all.

How is it racist to ask that question ?

He justifiably got compensated.

I think you are 100% right, but in this case the issue is whether the context makes the use of a word acceptable.

I don't think anybody argues that using the N word or the R word in general conversation is unacceptable. It's awful.

But in the context of a course about dealing with prejudice, if someone said "a customer used a really bad word when they were talking to me, and it upset me and I didn't know how to respond", and then they were asked what that word was, and they said it, and it was the N word, or the R word, is there a justification that they were kind of encouraged to say it?

I know it is a different area, but the word entrapment comes to mind - to encourage someone to do or say something, and then blame them when they do.

Why are lots of white people always mad that they can’t say the N word but some Black folks do. So used to having their way that the thought of being” excluded “ from something grinds their gears. Even if the man in question is old and daft ( how did he get to his position) there’s no way he doesn’t know it’s inappropriate. In this day and age that anti racism etc talk are all you see on TV. Even with the LGBT scene and people wanting to be addressed in many different ways there are certain old words you’d never use. You can always ask “ what should I do about people using uncomfortable language” bla bla but no he had to say the word. Just white people doing white people things. Not a biggie.

Yeah, the poor racist got a huge payout.

Well you tell that next time, somebody asks for you to say it in full. I've seen it so your opinion as to what I'm saying as being rubbish, is irrelevant.

HTH

Safe place to talk doesn’t mean use racist words when you can just refer to the word with an initial that’s widely known.

I had a colleague like this. I’m Asian, she asked me if I minded being called a P#&#, I asked her if she minded being called white trash. That shut her up.

Has he been on GB News yet?

Apparently they are towards black people. I remember looking at a photo of a big black doll with big lips and a Chinese woman was holding it.

No wonder the word is losing its true meaning. Bit like antisemitism I suppose. Well according to some on the ME board.

The Witch Trials come to mind.

Oppression and racism remain rife, it isn't 'all in the past' and black people in Britain grow up facing prejudice and discrimination. This is a fact.

It is not a fact that any white person uttering the N word in any given context is evidence of ignorance and/or racism.

Punishing people who disagree with your views about what is/isn't acceptable is the stuff of despotic leaders. All progressive change that has happened in relation to discrimination has come from debate - listening and talking. Not shutting down and threatening.

The idea of, 'it's not my job to educate you', you are wrong and I am right, is very damaging when the person who is deemed to need 'educating' has been grossly misunderstood.

Maybe you misunderstood me. You are wrong in the your assertion that the n word means black in Spanish. In fact the n word is not a Spanish word.

400 years of slavery and white people should be what given the chance to use the word again. They need to unlearn that word.

No one has said have the courage to use the N word, can you please stop lying or find the thread and link it.

You’re getting confused with swear words like fuck. Swearing is allowed.

Well you tell that next time, somebody asks for you to say it in full. I've seen it so your opinion as to what I'm saying as being rubbish, is irrelevant.

If I was asked to say it in full, I’d refuse. That’s what you do when you’re not racist and thick because you know why it’s unacceptable and why.

More ablist nonsense against people with dyslexia.

How is it virtue signalling to object to the use of a word which has extreme and seriously negative connotations for the black community?

Oh god you're one of those. Upset you can't get away with being racist anymore. And apparently antisemitic too.