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Luke Littler

213 replies

Derlei · 02/01/2024 08:39

Ignoring the fact that he looks nowhere near 16 years old(!) but if he is 16, then why are the DM romanticising his relationship with a 21 year old woman?

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-12917331/Luke-Littlers-girlfriend-posts-message-latest-victory.html

OP posts:
EddieHowesShithousingMags · 02/01/2024 11:05

Of course 16-18 is a transitional age but no one is telling Littler he has to marry this lass and that’s it for the rest of his days. He’s almost 17, I imagine he has raging hormones and is enjoying being at the top of his game and is enjoying a relationship with someone who has similar interests and is fit 🤷🏼‍♀️

In the words of my annoying teen ‘it’s not that deep’.

x2boys · 02/01/2024 11:06

BIossomtoes · 02/01/2024 11:02

Same. I was married six weeks before my 19th birthday to someone four years older than me.

Which is quite different to a 16year old
But yes times have changed rightly or wrongly today's teenagers are treated younger than teenagers were in the past .

Stressedafff · 02/01/2024 11:07

I think it would be fine if he was over 18. 16 just seems abit too young.
I can’t fathom what a 21 year old would want with a 16 year old at all. Plus if they’ve been together since before he turned 16 then that’s a whole different ball game

EddieHowesShithousingMags · 02/01/2024 11:07

inapickle2300 · 02/01/2024 11:05

Semantics. He’s still in education, still gets homework. Ok….I wonder if she picks him up from college 😂

I mean he’s not and he doesn’t but ok 🤷🏼‍♀️

VanityDiesHard · 02/01/2024 11:08

FancyJapflack · 02/01/2024 10:59

As Mrs Merton would say - I wonder what a beautiful 21 year old sees in an overweight, plain, unhealthy looking 16 year
old millionaire?

Why is it ok to body shame a 16 year old? If you said that about a sixteen year old girl you'd be ripped to shreds on here!

dsan · 02/01/2024 11:08

FancyJapflack · 02/01/2024 10:59

As Mrs Merton would say - I wonder what a beautiful 21 year old sees in an overweight, plain, unhealthy looking 16 year
old millionaire?

How nasty.

This says more about you than him or his girlfriend.

zingally · 02/01/2024 11:09

No 21yo should be hooking up with a 16yo - regardless of which way round they are.

But honestly, none of my business. And the fact he looks 35... that's just how puberty happens sometimes.
I was at university with a girl who could easily have passed for a 10yo child - but was actually 19.
Human variation is wild.

Sophie3003 · 02/01/2024 11:11

I find this really interesting. I met my now husband when he was 15 and I was 20. After getting to know each other we got together properly when he was 16, my whole life I never loved or had the connection with anyone else- we reunited and married last year now 27 and 32 and expecting our baby this year. From the outside I know it was odd but his parents supported- my family found it odd but after all this time it proves it is the person and not the age that matters.

VanityDiesHard · 02/01/2024 11:11

FluffyFanny · 02/01/2024 10:40

Missing the point, but she is beautiful and has a lovely voice.

She isn't really 'beautiful' just very heavily made up and filtered. She certainly isn't some goddess that is out of his league as some are saying. That said, she is still a creep for dating him.

x2boys · 02/01/2024 11:13

I think the thread would go a different way if she was 16 and he was 21_/

Onelifeonly · 02/01/2024 11:14

EddieHowesShithousingMags · 02/01/2024 11:03

Re medical decisions, anyone over the age of 16 will be assumed to have agency over their own medical decisions. Even those below 16 will be able to consent to medical intervention if deemed to be Gillick/Fraser competent.

Which is a heck of a tangent. And ultimately I agree that at that age you should be treated as an individual. Particularly as stated many times before he is days away from being 17.

In some cases, yes. However, social services will intervene with an under 18 if they think safeguarding is an issue and that involves the parents.

Cannada · 02/01/2024 11:16

I had a 21 year old boyfriend at 16. It was back in the 1980s and no-one batted an eyelid. He wasn't a predator, he was kind and respectful and we enjoyed spending time together. I was quite mature as a 16 year old and my parents didn't treat me like a child. He certainly wasn't exploiting me.

I eventually outgrew him and dumped him as I wanted to travel and see the world.

Some of the comments about it being disgusting are over the top. You need to look at individual relationships and judge - not all people are the same.

Lovelyjubbbly · 02/01/2024 11:22

@x2boys well there you go he’s officially an Adult I could see the point if she was 20 year old than him 😂😂😂😂😂😂 but I was 18 when I met my partner? And he was 27? So what the difference really if 16-18 is a very transitional age? 🤨

ilovesooty · 02/01/2024 11:30

EddieHowesShithousingMags · 02/01/2024 10:18

This post criticising the physical appearance of Littler is far grimmer than any age gap relationship.

Exactly, but it doesn't surprise me.

MrsJellybee · 02/01/2024 11:32

When I was 16/17, many of my friendship group were dating 22-25 year olds. Some of us married them and are still married. This was mid-1990s. No-one batted an eyelid. The boys in our sixth form were dating 14/15 year olds. We wouldn’t have looked twice at boys the same age. I guess times change.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 02/01/2024 11:32

Onelifeonly · 02/01/2024 10:55

Age limits need to be defined for legal purposes - yes 18 plus are treated as adults by medical services (as an example) so parents of a 17, almost 18 yo are automatically expected to be involved. A few days, weeks, months later, when they are 18, this isn't the case unless the 18 yo wants it to be. Doesn't mean the 18 year old is suddenly totally grown up or conversely that 17 year olds aren't capable of dealing with medical services by themselves either.

At work we have a 26 year old who could pass as a teen some times in terms of their levels of responsibility and maturity. Then another 20 something who has the manner and capability of the average 30 plus adult.

People are individuals - whatever their age. Snap judgements based simply on their date of birth should not be made.

yes 18 plus are treated as adults by medical services (as an example) so parents of a 17, almost 18 yo are automatically expected to be involved.

That's nonsense.
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/consent-to-treatment/children/

nhs.uk

Consent to treatment - Children and young people

Find out how consent applies to children under 16 years of age and young people aged 16 or over.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/consent-to-treatment/children

Dobbyatemysocks · 02/01/2024 11:33

Isn't it amazing how every single time a young person starts to make a success of their life in the public eye that the media start almost immediately to tear that person to pieces.

The worst of it is that we have absolutely no idea how this remarkable young man has lived his life up until now and we certainly do not have any personal knowledge of his personal life other than what is being fed to us by the media.

Oh, and before I forget - the 'trusted journalist' you are all quite happily believing - hasn't even stepped foot inside the current games and probably wouldn't know one end of a dart from the other, let alone the players.

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ExtraOnions · 02/01/2024 11:41

…this whole thing is going to end in tears, unless he has some business minded, level headed, media savvy people around him. He already got caught out by the S*n “news”paper

LetsDanceTheNightAway · 02/01/2024 11:43

As long as they're happy together, then it has absolutely nothing to do with anyone else.
My daughter met her husband when she was just short of her 17h birthday. He was 23.
My son met his wife when he was 19 and she was 28.
They're still with their respective spouses and very happy.
Should me and their father started wringing our hands while frothing about how terrible it all is? Of course not!

SpacePotato · 02/01/2024 11:44

I had no idea who this lad was before I read this thread.
From the unpleasant descriptions I was expecting him to be huge and ugly with rotten teeth.

He's just a perfectly normal looking lad who just happens to be thrown into the public eye.

All the GF's pics are highly filtered and another article goes on about her singing like adele on Tiktok videos.
Does she want to be famous? Probably. Does he care? No.

Wish I'd bet on him to win when his odds were 150-1!

FancyJapflack · 02/01/2024 11:46

IAcceptCookies · 02/01/2024 11:03

What a horrible - and not even remotely original, even on this thread - thing to post.

Writing such things about the appearance of a young person is truly nasty.

Probably true though. Are you seriously suggesting that his model material girlfriend would be with him if he pushed trolleys in the Tesco car park?

i am not denigrating 16 year olds, plain people, overweight people or people who push trolleys; I’ve been all of those things at some point in my life and still fall very much into the “plain and overweight” category.

I’m a realist.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 02/01/2024 11:54

Agustus · 02/01/2024 10:21

Stop calling a 16 year old young adult a child.

16 year olds aren't children. They can get married, join the armed forces, have sexual relationships, and have a degree of agency.

They're not bloody children!

16 year olds haven't been able to get married in England and Wales since February 2023 when the age increased to 18.

In N.Ireland it's 16 , but parental consent needed if under 18. In Scotland it remains 16 with no need for parental consent but only if the parties are domiciled in Scotland.

x2boys · 02/01/2024 11:59

Lovelyjubbbly · 02/01/2024 11:22

@x2boys well there you go he’s officially an Adult I could see the point if she was 20 year old than him 😂😂😂😂😂😂 but I was 18 when I met my partner? And he was 27? So what the difference really if 16-18 is a very transitional age? 🤨

He's not officially an adult he's 16 nearly 17 you have to e 18 to be an adult
He's not a child but neither is ha an adult.

VanityDiesHard · 02/01/2024 12:06

FancyJapflack · 02/01/2024 11:46

Probably true though. Are you seriously suggesting that his model material girlfriend would be with him if he pushed trolleys in the Tesco car park?

i am not denigrating 16 year olds, plain people, overweight people or people who push trolleys; I’ve been all of those things at some point in my life and still fall very much into the “plain and overweight” category.

I’m a realist.

'Model material' girlfirend? Have you actually looked at pictures of her? She is just a normal pleasant looking girl, who wears heavy makeup and whose pictures are heavily filtered.

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