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AIBU?

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PIL gave their Christmas presents from us away

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olympicsrock · 01/01/2024 13:46

PIL came to stay before Christmas. It was hard going. They are very ‘particular ‘ people. DH had a big fall out with BIL 10 years ago . We see them at family occasions only and do send gifts to BIL’s child. PIL have pushed for a reconciliation hard over the years. We get on fine with DH’s sister who has adult children but we agreed years ago not to exchange adult presents . ( kids under 18 only) .

During visit PIL gave our kids presents and the children gave them a small present back each . We agreed not to exchange adult presents then so that we all had something to open on Christmas Day.
I put BIL’s child’s gift in a bag with a label - (it was pretty full )and asked them to deliver it.
On the day that they left DH put the gifts for PIL , he says he said here are your presents ( expensive and thoughtful presents) on our kitchen table next to Christmas cards for the siblings that they would deliver . No labels on the gifts but FIL always gets a bottle and MIL loves reading ( rectangular parcel)

FIL must have put the wrapped bottle in the child’s gift bag and MIL decided that because the pile of books for her was next to a card for DH‘s sister then the gift must be for SIL .

None of them have told lazy BIL that the bottle he received ‘from DH’ was not meant for him. Awkward as he did not send birthday or Christmas gifts to our kids . They did however finally tell the lovely sister so MIL did get her gift. I am relieved because I do not want the expectation of having to buy and post and exchange gifts with adult extended family.

Today I told MIL that DH was upset about the mistake because he put time into choosing MIL’s gift. She initially said that they did nothing wrong as it was ‘obvious’ that the gifts were for the siblings and we should have labelled them.
I said that if in doubt they should have checked with us. She replied that I wasn’t there when they left and they had no doubt . I said you could have phoned and didn’t you think it was odd for you to have no gifts from us and why we were sending gifts to family who we never exchanged gifts with.

She eventually apologised in a very self righteous way for doing harm and I said no harm done but a mistake that could easily have been prevented .

She also was stroppy about them receiving a generous gift of wine from a wine merchant from
my mother that did not contain the sender details. For background my mother gives them a gift of wine every year and I was easily able to confirm that yes the gift was from the usual sender. Aaaghhh!

AIBU that they want to pretend that the gift was from DH to BIL and that they didn’t check! Accept that gift labels would have helped and have said this to DH but to be honest they would only have had a few gifts so not hard to remember.

And would I be unreasonable to suggest that DM doesn’t bother them with a gift from wine merchants next year!

OP posts:
olympicsrock · 01/01/2024 15:01

Where did I say he got bought the same whiskey every year?? I said a bottle… It varies…

OP posts:
Muchof · 01/01/2024 15:01

olympicsrock · 01/01/2024 14:59

I owe MIL no apology at all. Without the whole backstory you guys can’t really know . But that’s another long story and I ‘d be accused of gobbledygook so won’t bother.

Yes fault on both sides , DH should have labelled the gifts but equally PIL could have checked .

Will check out of this thread now. It’s just annoying me more than I already am.

Well you do.

Copperoliverbear · 01/01/2024 15:02

Presents should be labelled

Crochetablanket · 01/01/2024 15:02

Your fault and your DH for not labelling gifts. You were very rude to your MIL too.

You sound a bit of a nightmare tbh

Plus why are you both still holding some sort of grudge after 10 years ?
Just maybe ILs just want all their kids to get along? (- maybe the misplaced wine will reconcile you’d dh with his brother ?)

olympicsrock · 01/01/2024 15:02

Bye!

OP posts:
Aquamarine1029 · 01/01/2024 15:03

olympicsrock · 01/01/2024 15:02

Bye!

Off you flounce.

JANEY205 · 01/01/2024 15:03

WTF should PIL have checked? You already out the mental load on them to give the gifts out when you could have just posted the gift for your niece…
Then there would have been no confusion. Why bother why Christmas cards if you don’t even like BIL? And your MIl asking who sent her wine isn’t rude at all!! We got some gifts at Christmas not labeled and it was confusing as hell.

amicissimma · 01/01/2024 15:05

"Don’t assume that Mumsnetters being women will think that a man is responsible for sorting gifts for his own family."

Well either your DH is responsible for sorting gifts for his own family (my preferred approach, though willing to help if he asks) in which case there is no need for you to get involved or comment to your ILs or anything.

Or

The gifts come from the pair of you, in which case the lack of labelling is equally down to you, it's resonable for you to involve yourself in trying to sort out the muddle you caused between you.

Either way, it is completely unreasonable of you to berate your MIL.

And you absolutely do owe her an apology, however you try to spin things.

TheaBrandt · 01/01/2024 15:05

Dh rings his parents and apologises for the two of you being so weird and rude about your present giving. Suggest you all stick to the no adults presents thing next year. Presents are supposed to be a nice thing not pawns in a weird extended family psycho drama!

Sunnydays0101 · 01/01/2024 15:06

olympicsrock · 01/01/2024 14:59

I owe MIL no apology at all. Without the whole backstory you guys can’t really know . But that’s another long story and I ‘d be accused of gobbledygook so won’t bother.

Yes fault on both sides , DH should have labelled the gifts but equally PIL could have checked .

Will check out of this thread now. It’s just annoying me more than I already am.

Annoyed because the majority think it was yourself and your DH that caused the confusion by not labelling your gifts and your Mum for not including her name with the bottle of wine she sent via a wine merchant.

Next year, just give your IL’s their own gifts and send your niece her gift to her house and suggest to your mum that she ensures a gift card is included with what she sends.

And label!

MoonWoman69 · 01/01/2024 15:06

Wow! Ask for an opinion, don't like the answer, then check out because no-one is siding with you, so it's winding you up?! And you say your MIL is "particular"?! Both you and your husband are in the wrong, own it and apologise! And no, please, please spare us the back story, I already have a headache from your trying to decipher your post... 🙄🙄🙄

Vistada · 01/01/2024 15:06

Hahahaha the update is wild!

OP your poor MIL!

Member869894 · 01/01/2024 15:06

You sound very hard work. Why can't you just phone your BIL and say that the pressies weren't for him ? If your dh didnt label why are you taking it upon yourself you argue with your poor MIL about it? All a bit storm in a teacup

DeeLusional · 01/01/2024 15:07

If the instructions to the Pils was as confused as this incomprehensible story, it's not surprising they made mistakes. Shouldn't blame other people, totally your fault. But not a hanging offense. Let it go, and label gifts.

LiquidGold315 · 01/01/2024 15:07

You can't seem to accept the fault lies solely with your DH/you. The gifts should have been label. No excuses. End of.

Iwasafool · 01/01/2024 15:07

DuchessPotato · 01/01/2024 14:56

Imagine going to the point of telling your MIL that she has made a (genuine) mistake and then making her accept accountability! Wrongly! And then describing her as self righteous.

No words here.

Poor woman, she's obviously given in to keep the peace but she clearly knows it wasn't her fault.

Arata · 01/01/2024 15:07

They are very ‘particular ‘ people

I don’t think it’s the PIL that are ‘particular people’. Good grief what a drama over nothing.

WhichIsItWendy · 01/01/2024 15:08

Wow you've made a real mountain out of a molehill. And how horrible of you to have invited them round as guests, only to slag them off later. Honestly, where do you get off?

Who doesn't label gifts? All very strange and argumentative on your front. You need to apologise.

AnneValentine · 01/01/2024 15:08

Oh crikey. In laws are tough but this is on you / OH. I agree it’s ultimately his responsibility but you posted and you have got involved.

It is absolutely ridiculous to expect people to work out who presents are for if not labelled. Imagine if everyone did that? Its ludicrous.

olympicsrock · 01/01/2024 15:08

Crochetablanket · 01/01/2024 15:02

Your fault and your DH for not labelling gifts. You were very rude to your MIL too.

You sound a bit of a nightmare tbh

Plus why are you both still holding some sort of grudge after 10 years ?
Just maybe ILs just want all their kids to get along? (- maybe the misplaced wine will reconcile you’d dh with his brother ?)

Some things can’t easily be forgiven. Thanks to BIL’s dishonesty we lost DH‘s business and nearly our home. He then borrowed money from us which he hasn’t repaid and hasn’t worked for 10 years at all due to pride.
So yes I’m fed up with PIL wanting us to play happy families.

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Dotcheck · 01/01/2024 15:09

I carefully shop and wrap each present, and label them. And I still forget what is in each one.
Label!

OP, whatever the backstory is, you and your husband were in the wrong here. Apology is in order

bohemianmullet · 01/01/2024 15:10

Your post is confusing enough, poor MIL to understand what on earth is going on with your over-complex blamings and complex present giving. No labels and then given with card to someone else, no wonder she ended up confused. None of this mess is her fault and you owe her an apology for being so aggressive in my view. Why give them nice gifts if you are going to follow it up with such aggression. It's obviously awkward for them to try and retrieve the presents afterwards. Perhaps you should have done this (or just been nice and let it be!) if you were so concerned.

I think you are being thoroughly unreasonable and I don't often say that on these threads.

Iwasafool · 01/01/2024 15:10

olympicsrock · 01/01/2024 15:08

Some things can’t easily be forgiven. Thanks to BIL’s dishonesty we lost DH‘s business and nearly our home. He then borrowed money from us which he hasn’t repaid and hasn’t worked for 10 years at all due to pride.
So yes I’m fed up with PIL wanting us to play happy families.

I can't see how that gives you the right to have a go at your MIL for a mistake that was caused by you or your husband not labelling presents.

Lucy377 · 01/01/2024 15:10

I'd have let DH cope with the whole thing.

Not sure why you are ringing MIL about it at all.

DHs gifts, his family, his mess and you forget about the whole thing.

You are taking responsibility for a relationship you don't need to manage.