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I'm definitely being unreasonable! Comparing lives with Australians!

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teulie · 31/12/2023 20:18

Watched a lot of Love Island Australia and MAFS Australia this year and follow a lot of the people from it now. Seeing all their stories all year and today for NYE, the sunshine, the beaches, the groups of girls all just having the best time being young in such a beautiful country with the best sort of lifestyle and it makes me feel sad!

I'm in my late twenties married with two kids, boring job, normal family life style but I look and think god could I of done that? Could life of been like that?

One of my old friends is currently in Australia so I'm seeing their insta stories all day everyday and it's made the pining worse than ever, I've never even been there and I find myself just wishing I could do life again and be born there Blush

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LargeSquareRock · 01/01/2024 08:42

FloofCloud · 01/01/2024 08:15

My mum retired out there, I visited, it's hot, can be humid, dusty, very few nice places, they have
Towns and cities but not much in between, no quaint villages or country pubs. Going walking is dangerous due to everything that can kill you, including in the sea. I found a lot of racism, and was shocked that in local pubs they'd have topless bar staff sometimes (this was 20 years ago so hope that's a thing of the past). It really is expensive too. When we flew to the other side of the country it took 6 hours ... its huge and there's a lot of nothing

How can the sea kill you when out walking?! As for dangerous animals, I think XL bullies would kill more each year in the UK than Australia’s sharks, crocs and snakes put together. I don’t even bother with spiders as a spider hasn’t killed anyone since 1979.

margotrose · 01/01/2024 08:42

All my family are Australian and in a materialistic sense they all have lovely lives. They're not mega rich either, just normal people living in normal suburbs.

But Australia is expensive and a long way away from well, anywhere. Living there involves spending a lot of time in the car unless you're right in a city centre.

I love going to visit but I'm not sure I'd want to live there.

honeysuckleweeks · 01/01/2024 08:48

Kaaardiffgalnow · 31/12/2023 21:16

Instagram isn't real life.
I have relatives in Oz (and have been there). I couldn't cope with:

  • Searing heat
  • Bush fires
  • Innocuous-looking critters that can kill you
  • Sharks, box jellyfish & saltwater crocodiles that stop you swimming safely
  • Racism & sexism
  • Being a long way from European culture

FFS. You are not going to be attacked by a crocodile unless you are stupid enough to go all the way to the Northern Territory and swim in a lagoon that has a sign that says "No Swimming - Crocodiles".
Sharks exist all around the world. Even in AMERICA!!! shock!
Box jellyfish are nasty but everyone knows not to swim in areas where they live ( up north) when they are around.
No idea about the "innocuous-looking critters that can kill you" Survived 53 years yet without encountering what ever you are blathering about.
Racism is a big call from ( I'm assuming someone in the UK) when we have in Australia one of the most harmonious and ethnically diverse countries in the world. But do carry on with your Euro-centric crap.
European culture - see above.

honeysuckleweeks · 01/01/2024 08:49

Oh and yes it does get fucking hot in summer! Just like I guess it gets fucking cold in parts of the Northern hemisphere. swings and roundabouts

Rocklettre · 01/01/2024 08:52

LePanthere · 01/01/2024 07:23

Brit living in Australia 👋
I could never return to the uk. We spend our weekends in the creeks, climbing mountains and swimming in lakes.

don’t swim at the beach because of crocodiles in this region, but I never swam at the beach in the uk either because pneumonia is not a good luck.

I don’t think the racism or sexism is any worse than the uk, it’s just more overt, people tend to say what they think out loud, rather than hiding it in plain sights as it’s done in the uk.

yep theres a cost of living crisis as there seems to be everywhere, however we’re a mid income family and have enough space to grow our own vegetables and our holidays entail camping and weekends spent in nature.

i live rurally but absolutely do not miss the commercialism and rat race mentality that I experienced in the uk. It felt like everything there was about how you look and what you buy.

maybe that’s age changing me, or maybe that’s just big city living in general….

everywhere has its flaws but I look at my kid running around barefoot and riding her bike to school everyday and think I did the right thing emigrating. I miss uk christmases and wearing knee high boots but whenever I tak to friends and family in the uk, year on year they seem increasingly miserable….

if you get the chance to emigrate, I would encourage you to take the chance !

i live rurally but absolutely do not miss the commercialism and rat race mentality that I experienced in the uk. It felt like everything there was about how you look and what you buy.
You see I’d say it was more like this in Australia, not much going on in the suburbs, and everyone just so materialistic

everywhere has its flaws but I look at my kid running around barefoot and riding her bike to school everyday
again in Oz we found we had to drive everywhere! Whereas where we live now everything is walkable, kids ride bikes or scooters to school everyday through a beautiful village, we maybe use our car once a week!

Everywhere has its pros and cons and a lot will depend on exactly where you live within a country and your financial situation. I have read some articles recently about the housing in cities in Australia becoming practically unaffordable for most, and an increase in extreme weather events occurring. Many properties are becoming uninsurable. Which I think will only make it harder to emigrate

honeysuckleweeks · 01/01/2024 08:53

GlorianaCervixia · 01/01/2024 07:02

I'm just doing my "Mumsnetters Talk About Australia Bingo Card". So far I've got:

Australians are all racist and don't have proper culture, the European kind
Australia sometimes has bad weather, unlike the rest of the world.
The wildlife murders everyone, they're all dead now

Kicking myself I didn't think to put "they have ugly furniture, all 26 million of them" but still holding out hope for my old favourites "they're just not very sophisticated, are they?" and "there is literally nothing else to do in Sydney but go to the beach. Nothing at all" to pop up.

Lol. I missed the ugly furniture! WTF? haha. It's probably bloody imported from England.

GlorianaCervixia · 01/01/2024 08:54

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Sigh. Yet another poster who has no idea about the referendum process or this particular campaign. You're aware that the "no" campaign was headed by an indigenous woman? And that the "yes" campaign decided early on that it's best bet at winning would be refusing to tell people how the voice would actually work? Referendums almost always fail in Australia. The voice failing was always more likely than not. Add in one of the worst-run political campaigns I've ever seen, and it was a certainty.

You also appear to be unaware that Australia is not "full of the people we didn't want because they were criminals". That's a lazy stereotype. Only around 20% of Australians are descended from convicts. There are far more Australians who arrived as assisted immigrants.

tolerable · 01/01/2024 08:58

well,you cant.count your blessings.

honeysuckleweeks · 01/01/2024 09:01

IamMini · 01/01/2024 05:45

I'm closer to Morpeth 🙂

Shite so am I!!!!

Mikimoto · 01/01/2024 09:06

Sydney is a fantastic city, although not comparable to London/Paris of course.
Brisbane is v lovely and liveable.
Melbourne is a dumpy dirge with nothing to do but drink (admittedly great) coffee.

Food is fantastic, with lots of Asian influence of course.

Salaries far higher than UK. Property prices higher in general for anything near a big city.

And of course, it's a massive effort to travel anywhere outside the country.

lemonjuicer · 01/01/2024 09:06

My friend moved to Australia about a decade ago, she wouldn’t move back to England for love nor money. Her life isn’t absolutely perfect, because nowhere is a utopia, but she’s very happy there. Getting a permanent visa (don’t know what it’s called!) was a long slog and hard work but worth it for her.

Benibidibici · 01/01/2024 09:08

I have family there.

The move worked well for the relative in her late 40a who went 25 years ago. Exchange rates & property price differential meant the equity in her uk house bought her a better one there, she went to a shortage occupation and her career developed well as a result.

For my younger relative who went 5 years ago, its less clear cut. She enjoys the lifestyle of beach/better weather, but renting is cripplingly expensive & despite a well paid job, can't afford to buy. Flights are very expensive so she sees less of family than she hoped.

padsi1975 · 01/01/2024 09:08

As everyone has said, social media and influencers are selling a lie. So get off that ASAP. Oz is lovely, I lived there for a year and loved it. There's lots I'd still love if I lived there. Sydney's beach suburbs are fab. But it is like anywhere else, it has its own challenges. For me, it is just too far away from many other places and I felt cut off the last time I was there. And property prices are very high, I'd be many many miles from those lovely beach suburbs if I lived there. That being said, if you think you'd like it there, nothing is stopping you from trying to make the dream a reality. Maybe it's the perfect place for you.

Mikimoto · 01/01/2024 09:08

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I think you'll find the females voted NO, too...

honeysuckleweeks · 01/01/2024 09:08

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I'm assuming this is an attempt at humour. If not - we ( Australians) are very thankful you and your no doubt equally horrendous offspring have never darkened our shores. Cheers!!! ( BTW - you no nothing about that referendum. Stop embarrassing yourself) Hint : never come to Australia. We love everyone except dickheads.

forgotmyusername1 · 01/01/2024 09:11

I know someone who has moved there recently with his wife and kids. Mid 40's. His wife was very much the driving force and he went along with it.

They went there once on honeymoon in 2005

They are both very obese. He hates heat and complains when it is 25 degrees in the UK

According to his sister they have used their swimming pool in the garden once in 4 months. They can't walk the dogs to the beach due to snakes and they found poisonous spiders in the garden.

Let's just say that the Facebook statuses are very very few and far between.

You need to be a certain type of person to really get the most of that lifestyle and this famh aren't it. Why move to a country that spontaneously combusts if you hate heat.

honeysuckleweeks · 01/01/2024 09:11

*know
( just so I don't get called dumb )

Ohwhatfuckeryitistoride · 01/01/2024 09:12

I grew up there, on the coast. My sister, extended family and many friends live there. Like lots of places, if you are rich it’s great, if you are ordinary it’s tough. My sister lives in a suburb on the coast. A street when I lived there was family houses. One by one all those houses have been knocked down and blocks of units built on the land. My sister is considering selling because she has a big block of land and a biggish house that in the winter she cant afford to heat and in the summer is a furnace. But then she might not afford a unit. Her grown kids can’t get on the property market and have never been outside the country.She’s had melanoma twice (not an outdoors person by any stretch) and healthcare is very expensive. Otoh, a friend lives a very cultured and well travelled life-insta worthy if you like. Difference? Shitloads of money.

quisensoucie · 01/01/2024 09:14

Head well and truly bitten off!
😃😃

Laburnum1981 · 01/01/2024 09:14

Maybe this has come up in the thread somewhere else but whenever people go on about it being warm and sunny at Christmas in Australia I just think… Yes, it’s summer there!

When it’s our summer, it’s warmer and sunnier here than there.

padsi1975 · 01/01/2024 09:16

I am sceptical about Australians being more racist than other people.

honeysuckleweeks · 01/01/2024 09:19

forgotmyusername1 · 01/01/2024 09:11

I know someone who has moved there recently with his wife and kids. Mid 40's. His wife was very much the driving force and he went along with it.

They went there once on honeymoon in 2005

They are both very obese. He hates heat and complains when it is 25 degrees in the UK

According to his sister they have used their swimming pool in the garden once in 4 months. They can't walk the dogs to the beach due to snakes and they found poisonous spiders in the garden.

Let's just say that the Facebook statuses are very very few and far between.

You need to be a certain type of person to really get the most of that lifestyle and this famh aren't it. Why move to a country that spontaneously combusts if you hate heat.

Where on earth do they live? 26 million of us live very happily every day. Half go to the beach. The other half are in their garden. He's having you on. Otherwise tell me this mysterious suburb full of snakes and spiders. Actually scratch that. If it keeps people like @quisensoucie away then yes. That's the total truth. Between that and the dropbears it's a miracle we all survive. I mean I only don my armour on the worse days , helmets required on alternate days for aforementioned dropbears. Crocs in the pool, mysterious critters in the house . Ok have I scared you all off yet? YAY
( Laughing in a sad way that the most racist picture was when the Brits were in charge - you guys do remember India as well don't you)
Lectured about historic racism from an ignorant Brit. Oh my sides.

Aprilx · 01/01/2024 09:22

Laburnum1981 · 01/01/2024 09:14

Maybe this has come up in the thread somewhere else but whenever people go on about it being warm and sunny at Christmas in Australia I just think… Yes, it’s summer there!

When it’s our summer, it’s warmer and sunnier here than there.

When it’s our summer, it’s warmer and sunnier here than there

Not necessarily. 😊

I didn’t wear a coat for four out of five years I lived in Sydney. I also spent a lot of time in Brisbane due to work and our summer months, say June to September were glorious up there.

quisensoucie · 01/01/2024 09:23

@padsi1975 Watch 'The Australian Wars'. BBC
You can decide how racist

LargeSquareRock · 01/01/2024 09:25

forgotmyusername1 · 01/01/2024 09:11

I know someone who has moved there recently with his wife and kids. Mid 40's. His wife was very much the driving force and he went along with it.

They went there once on honeymoon in 2005

They are both very obese. He hates heat and complains when it is 25 degrees in the UK

According to his sister they have used their swimming pool in the garden once in 4 months. They can't walk the dogs to the beach due to snakes and they found poisonous spiders in the garden.

Let's just say that the Facebook statuses are very very few and far between.

You need to be a certain type of person to really get the most of that lifestyle and this famh aren't it. Why move to a country that spontaneously combusts if you hate heat.

Where the fuck in Australia do they live? I live on an acreage with more venomous snakes than any other part of the country and I see one about every three years and it’s always a harmless tree snake or python. I have never heard of a place full of so many snakes (the world’s shyest animal) that you can’t walk to a beach. And spiders in the garden? Seriously? No-one has been killed by a spider bite since 1979. If your friends are too obese to swim in their pool, they are certainly too obese to stroll to a beach. Snakes and spiders everywhere- what rubbish.