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Piggy in the middle? - mom/me/OH

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Twinkleyes · 27/12/2023 20:50

Hi. First time in here as I feel bit lonely and dont know who to turn to without harsh judgement! (Please go easy on me it's a long post apologies).
I'll try and summarise but doubt I can! Me and my OH home educate our two children 9/5 yrs old. 9 yr old roughly 3 yrs and 5 yr old since sept. Alongside this we started a small business in 2022 but decided to take a break and focus on home ed and ourselves as I have an auto immune disease which means I need to slow down 'normal' pace life a lot of us can normally bare.
I would like to think we do well with home ed and is like to think I try my best to make life as good as I can for my children and us.
Typical routine in our unschooling (not rigid or set routine every day) Mon and tuesday are relaxed days for park/cleaning/bits of learning. Tuesday or Wednesday is also half hour 121 swim lesson. Wed is home ed meet up at outdoor climbing park if they want to go which is most times but winter obviously bit harder so we try do other bits like shopping etc the kids like, Thursday is local home ed hall/park meet up, fri is a local home ed meet up we personally started up closer to home. Saturday karate session, sunday chill. Learning inbetween all of it.

We have a small family so the only restbite we manage to get is whenever my mother has them overnight approx once a month sometimes longer which we are very grateful of. I have a brother who's married with his own bought house who works in construction who also has two small children who my mom watches just as much too although they have another set of grandparents from my SILs side.

My partner wishes to be at home to support me and the business when we are back up running and tries to help out in the house best he can. He didnt speak with his mom or step dad for over 7 yrs till present as his mom moved away and to be honest there was no reason why she cut contact all whilst knowing she had 2 grandchildren here.

Problems..

My mom and OH have never really saw eye to eye. We went through a rough time in the first yr with our baby due to my undiagnosed immune disease but gradually got things back on track. (Weve been together 11 yrs) Looking back, my partner nor my mother dealt with it the best and would just retaliate or make me worse. I personally feel a clash of strong personalities prevents them from getting along yet they are civil with each other. There have been bits of issues over the yrs ' I didnt like the way she said this' or 'is he doing this for you'. My partner is an only child, I'm not. I've always found my partner difficult and stubborn with family get togethers, he feels awkward and feels my family dont like him so why should he be there. He doesnt have a strong bond with any of his family nor mom so I took it as how could he understand me in that way given his own upbringing as an only child.
After a great summer. We came back and slowly started work only for my OH to get a phone call that his stepdad had died and his mother was there who tried to resuscitate. Obviously he dropped everything and so did I. We went down there to see his mom etc. I immediately put my grievances aside to support the situation, albeit slightly awkward but I tried my best.

I visited my mom in oct just before halloween, I could see she was in a mood and it all slowly but surely poured out of her to the point she was crying angrily and told me to leave and that she will never worry about me anymore just my kids.
The conversation started by her asking when/if me and my OH could buy a house. Then that she could see I wasnt happy and theres no time for me, (i know she would rather see my kids in school so i can do more things for myself) then how my kids have changed, (she didnt explain that) how i pushed everyone out my life (no i didnt i just stopped trying as i always visited everyone or made effort and when i was having my baby my 'best friends' showed there true colours and never bothered visiting me so i simply give in to it!) Also "why" do me and my OH need a break, why is my mom my only support, why dont i go to clubs or restaurants with my OH (we only get 1 day to ourselves a month so that's the last thing i want to do personally) to be honest it just felt like she questioned everything about my life choices!! Like they arent good enough!! She scalded my partner yet again saying he doesnt try with the family. ( I've seen more effort in him this year over any year). He painted her bathroom as a suprise, he offered to buy her a weekend away in october so we did as shes still a single parent to 18 yr old and obviously a nan to 4 children working full time. He gave his car to my younger brother, he mowed her grass while at work, took fog for walks, offers drinks when she come kn and small general talks etc). This was all recent over the last few months. Basically saying she got rid of the men in her life when she was unhappy, why havent I. She did this the night before the funeral of my OHs stepdad.

After all said and done I asked for her to come have a chat about a week and a half after..her response was that she had some things she needed to do for herself. She text again mentioning she had work to do and even acknowledged 'I know work doesnt come before family'. When she did tell me a day she could come round,I cancelled because my kids were poorly with virals. My birthday was soon after, so when she came round it was awkward.

She mentioned to have that chat, but nothing more came of it. She came round again to discuss my 18 yr old brothers payments as he was buying my OHs stepdads car (thanks to my OH letting it go cheaper with monthly installments even after what she did the night before the funeral) and said again to both me and OH we will have a chat just obviously dont want things negative right now or something along them lines.

Fast forward she has been trying to be normal and nice with me and I have not made that difficult for her. I've been nice, civil, engaging and gradually feel she has disregarded any chat or potential apology for the way she had her outburst on my life.

This has yet again put a wedge between me and OH as I went round xmas day with my children for a few hours and I'm a 'hypocrite'. I can see what he means but I'm trying to be civil for my children and my younger brother all while waiting to see if she brings anything up rather than it be me all the time in the past I'd be the one chasing her to sort things out as shes stubborn.

On xmas day I said you shouldn't have spent so much on me, as she spoils the kids.. she said yeh well I wanted to given I've made people feel like s*t and I didnt mean to. I knew she was on about me but she called me people and it it just felt like she couldnt face up to saying anything clearly to me. My partner was in a mood xmas day because I was there, plus his grief with his stepdads bday on 23rd and his mom being on her own an hour away from us. Xmas dinner nearly wasnt done by him. He slagged me off for spoiling the kids when theres suffering out in the world etc and kept moaning we arent Christian's etc. I was brought up catholic but I am no longer religious. My children have been taught about christianity as well as other religions, and pre Christian celebrations. We are a spiritual family not religious but my partner has been aggressive with his views this yr about the commercial sides of xmas and getting sucked into it. I am NOT a Christmas eve box mom, infact since living here we have never had a table out as our home is too small.. only this yr I planned to do that unsuccessfully. I bought my son a switch and he was upset hes bot allowed to play a certain game which led to a minor morning strop for a couple of minutes but my OH snapped and went upstairs. It was my sons 4th yr of asking for one and I wanted to finally do it. My best friend lost her mom in may and i gave her and her family a small token on her moms xmas eve birthday. He slagged me off for that too and how people cry out for attention on social media while his mom is there lonely. I know most of it is irrational and down to grief but BOY I feel like I'm getting hit from every angle.

He is now saying that he wont be going to my niece and nephews christening as he dont agree with it. He hates my mom for what she did. (She also put up what's app profile pic that were indirect digs at us). I'm just totally fed up of it all. I feel like I've tried to grow as a person with my immune disease as stress triggers it so I need to be aware of peoples toxic traits and be mindful how to respond. I feel like this is the end of it all and I'm worried theres no going back. I love my partner he supports me in many ways and our morals aline in many ways for us and our kids, but my mom has made it worse the way she spoke to me like she cant accept him for who he is even when hes tried with her. I've been in similar cycles to thisnin the past and I just dont know where to go. Do I throw it all away now? I thought me and my mom was close but I feel that I cant even sit in my own moms house and have a lil moan that I'm tired or say anything because she will judge me! ( I remember another part of her outburst was because i made a remark infront of my mom to my 9 yr old son about my mental health something like, what about my mental health son.. I cant remember the context at the time) she told me I shouldnt be saying things like that to my son and kids shouldnt hear it. I told her I teach my kids about physical and mental health in a positive way.

I feel like so much has happened over the last few months I do apologise for the length of post but I felt I needed to put each bit of recent bits in here for anyone who has made it this far. If you have, thank you for reading and taking the time out. I'm worried about the responses I'll get on here im never this open, but I dont know where to turn and need to woman up and hear your views..

Ps.. my children are non of the wiser to most of this, both me and OH chat away from the kids. They know dad is grieving and has his moments thats about it.

OP posts:
PrimroseSilk · 27/12/2023 20:59

I can't tell who's right or wrong from your long post. But I do work in education and, judging by both the content and spelling, punctuation and grammar of your post, I honestly don't think you should be homeschooling your children. Although it doesn't sound as though they get much learning time anyway.

How do you afford to live if neither of you work?

FritataPatate · 27/12/2023 21:00

Hmmm... have to admit, I skimmed the last bit of your post. It doesn't sound like your kids are getting a whole lot of education, from the sound of your schedule. Put them back in school and then you won't need to rely on your Mom for respite?

Twinkleyes · 27/12/2023 21:04

If you didnt skim my post youd see my post isnt about my kids education. It was more to show people the social side. Also I'm not asking for more free time and school shouldnt been seen as childcare.

OP posts:
ComtesseDeSpair · 27/12/2023 21:06

It sounds like a lot of people in both your and your OH’s lives take issue with your behaviour or drift away. Your OH sounds like an insufferable prick. I suspect if you opened your eyes to the latter, the reasons for the former might become much clearer to you. I wouldn’t be alienating my mum and my friends for the sake of keeping him. Was he the instigator of the “unschooling”, because it means fewer people in his family’s life to notice the problems?

Aquamarine1029 · 27/12/2023 21:06

I'm left wondering how you pay your bills...

PrimroseSilk · 27/12/2023 21:07

Twinkleyes · 27/12/2023 21:04

If you didnt skim my post youd see my post isnt about my kids education. It was more to show people the social side. Also I'm not asking for more free time and school shouldnt been seen as childcare.

It was a very long post and quite difficult to follow. That suggests that you're perhaps bot well equipped to support the educational needs of your children.

I don't know about the social side, not really sure what you're asking.

KnowledgeableMomma · 27/12/2023 21:10

So.....it feels like there were 15 different stories in there and none of them tied together, so people reading end up being very confused. Biggest confusion is what question you are asking of us? Maybe edit the post to only include relevent info and nothing superfluous?

bearcubs2 · 27/12/2023 21:10

Christ! With your lifestyle you are doing your children a disservice by home schooling them.

FuckingHellAdele · 27/12/2023 21:14

Not a fucking scooby based on your post, but reading between the lines, I'd bet that if you and your husband stand on your own feet, don't ask for help, and just let your mum be a normal grandparent, most of this angst would go away.

DisappearingGirl · 27/12/2023 21:16

I'm not sure I followed all of your post. But none of it sounds too terrible to me. It sounds like both your mum and your partner mean well. And that your mum tried to apologise but clumsily. But that they just wind each other up a bit.

Can you just decide to stay out of it? Google grey rock / broken record technique. So if your mum starts grumbling about your partner, or your partner starts grumbling about your mum, try and stay calm and say something like, look I know you get a bit wound up by him/her but I don't want another conversation about it thanks, I'm not getting involved.

Good luck!

TheSnowyOwl · 27/12/2023 21:17

I’m not sure what you are really asking but it sounds like you feel you are stuck between your partner and your mother. It all sounds a complete mess and your children can’t even get any respite elsewhere given they are home all the time. Perhaps have some time away from both to focus on your children and see how things feel from there.

Branleuse · 27/12/2023 21:24

Your children need to have an escape from all this. I think you should find a school for them.

vodkaredbullgirl · 27/12/2023 21:26

😕

Mywhoopdeedoo · 27/12/2023 21:31

Ffs send your kids to school

Mywhoopdeedoo · 27/12/2023 21:34

What do you do for money ?

MILTOBE · 27/12/2023 21:35

I can absolutely understand some parents wanting to educate their children at home, eg where the children have needs that are not met in school or the children are being bullied, but when someone home educates in this situation it makes me really worry about what the hell the children are learning.

Do the best thing for your children, OP, and send them to school. They need to be educated and frankly, you are not the person to be doing this.

AllosaurusMum · 27/12/2023 21:36

Your mom sounds horrible. I think it’s wrong you keep expecting your partner to deal her. Your partner needs to stop doing anything for your ungrateful mother right now. I think you really need to reflect how you’d feel if it was his mother talking about you like that and he insisted you and your kids maintaining a relationship with her. You really think your mom isn’t going to badmouth you and especially your partner to your kids one day?

Whattodo112222 · 27/12/2023 21:42

I feel a bit worried for your kids education in all honesty if this is how you write. Almost all of it is a jumbled mess of bad spelling, grammar and no relevant punctuation.

Perhaps you ought to think about putting your kids back into school and your DH getting back to work.

None of what you've written screams happy home life.

Tbh. Your mum sounds like an angel, a single parent, full time working and looks after your kids overnight giving you and your husband time alone.

Lovingitallnow · 27/12/2023 21:51

He sounds like lobster boy

Justrolledmyeyesoutloud · 27/12/2023 21:57

PrimroseSilk · 27/12/2023 20:59

I can't tell who's right or wrong from your long post. But I do work in education and, judging by both the content and spelling, punctuation and grammar of your post, I honestly don't think you should be homeschooling your children. Although it doesn't sound as though they get much learning time anyway.

How do you afford to live if neither of you work?

This is what l got from the post too!

ActDottie · 27/12/2023 22:00

I gave up reading your post. It’s too long and doesn’t make sense. As others have said put your kids back in main stream schooling!!!

CalistoNoSolo · 27/12/2023 22:07

The only thing I got from that insanely long post is that your life is dysfunctional, you and your husband need to get jobs and your children need to be in school so they have a chance to escape.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 27/12/2023 22:09

I got a little lost too… but it sounds like neither of them are right or wrong.

I think my best advice is to tell both of them to knock it off. Your mum for judging everyone and him for being an asshole.

PurpleTinsel555 · 27/12/2023 22:14

You should not be homeschooling (I’m sorry — unschooling) your children. Enroll them somewhere immediately.

WhereIsBebèsChambre · 27/12/2023 22:15

CalistoNoSolo · 27/12/2023 22:07

The only thing I got from that insanely long post is that your life is dysfunctional, you and your husband need to get jobs and your children need to be in school so they have a chance to escape.

This. Its the kids I feel sorry for in this mess. Am sure not alone in thinking your choice of 'unschooling' isn't for their benefit.

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