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To not give our mum presents for Christmas

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MeRrYcHrIsTmAs2023 · 22/12/2023 10:19

My brother and I have the misfortune of having a complete waste of space for a mother. She drinks, but that's only part of the problem. The selfishness runs deeper than that.

He came back into her life after decades. He made an effort to have a relationship with her but she just let's him down, as she has me all of my life.

I'm low contact with her but for his sake agreed to go for a meal with him, mum and SIL to celebrate his birthday and recent wedding. He really wanted her to come.

She agrees to come and says how lovely it will be then turns her phone off on the day. I finally get hold of her two days later, pissed, and she just says she mixed the days up. No apology or call to my brother. Nothing. She knows he has left me with a present for her.

It's obvious she hasn't bothered getting us or any of the kids anything for Christmas, not even a card, so WIBU to just not bother taking hers over?

I'm so angry with her because I know she has hurt him. Again.

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TomatoSandwiches · 22/12/2023 20:10

Give the present back to your brother and then he can decide what to do with it, this isn't your responsibility.

MeRrYcHrIsTmAs2023 · 22/12/2023 20:13

I had a conversation with DB last month when we were arranging to meet and I was open about how much I've had to pull back and why. I made clear, in as nice a way I could put it, that I was only agreeing to the dinner with her for his sake. I told him I didn't want to be the reason he didn't see her when I knew he really wanted to.

He lives a considerable distance away and doesn't come here much, so he wanted to see us both together.

I do worry that he might reach the same conclusion as some posters on here, that I should be doing more to support her and checking on her all of the time.

Fortunately he hasn't seen her at her worst and hasn't had the years of shit that I've had, so he still has a bit of an idealistic view of her and thinks she's a really kind hearted person.

He's never had to deal with her drunk, or the fallout from it. Years ago after they reunited I would tie myself in knots to make sure she was sober on the day she was meeting him, even pleading with her to stay at my place the night before so I could be certain she'd 1) not drink and 2) actually turn up.

So when he saw mum he wasn't getting the version I get 6 days out of 7. For a couple of hours on that one day she was fine, then she'd hit the bottle again and it was another week of hell for me. Sleepless nights wondering if something had happened to her. Calling the police to do welfare checks. Endless calls to adult social services and the people who work at her housing complex. It never ended. Round and round it went. She would turn her phone off for days at a time so I'd rush over there to make sure she was OK. She always was, she just didn't want me to know she'd been drinking. I used to beg her to keep her phone on and said I don't care if she's drunk when she answers I just need to know she's safe and well.

Then there was the hospital trips. Sitting in A&E with her at 1 week post cesarean section, newborn in tow, because she fell over outside. She thought all of that was hilarious and was cracking jokes about having a CT scan on her head.

My DB wasn't witnessing any of this and I didn't want to burden him with it so I dealt with it myself as he shouldn't have to deal with that.

I felt responsible for her as I'd been the parent in the relationship since I was a child myself.

Round and round we go. Weekly, for years. Abuse. Panic. Stress. Anxiety. Anger. Rinse and repeat.

She hits rock bottom early last year and winds up in hospital. She had 'mild' liver damage (a miracle in itself) but was physically in a bad way in general. She tells them she wants to quit the booze so she has an inpatient medical detox. I cared for her when she came out.

6-7 months of sobriety followed with me supporting her every step of the way.

The time comes to have some tests done on her liver, I assume to see if it had healed.

She reports good news, shes "alright now", then goes straight back to drinking that day.

She was counting down the days until she could get away with it. A choice at this point.

That's when I thought bollocks to this I'm not going through all of that again, I'm not having my children exposed to that anymore now they're reaching an age they'd know something was amiss.

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Justcallmebebes · 22/12/2023 20:16

I had an alcoholic mother too OP, so I get why you're tying yourself in knots. I have no advice because every situation is different, but I understand why this is difficult xx

Gymnopedie · 22/12/2023 20:19

OP do you realise that in trying to protect your brother from the reality of your mother you are now parentifying him? He's 11 years older than you, you have to let him find out the truth for himself. You don't need the stress of shielding him on top of everything else you've had to cope with in your life.
And yes, put the ball back in his court on the present.

Nicole1111 · 22/12/2023 20:21

What on earth have I stumbled upon?! A thread where the op talks about repeatedly being let down by her mother who appears to have almost no capacity for change despite her daughter and numerous services trying to help her, and somehow this has turned in to op being criticised. No apparent thought for the likely impact of her experiences on the op, respect for her having boundaries that protect her and her children or admiration for how she’s trying to protect her brother with seemingly little thought for her own feelings. You couldn’t write it.
Op I applaud you for breaking the cycle and I wish you a very very merry Christmas. Your family are lucky to have!

MeRrYcHrIsTmAs2023 · 22/12/2023 20:21

Gymnopedie · 22/12/2023 20:19

OP do you realise that in trying to protect your brother from the reality of your mother you are now parentifying him? He's 11 years older than you, you have to let him find out the truth for himself. You don't need the stress of shielding him on top of everything else you've had to cope with in your life.
And yes, put the ball back in his court on the present.

That dawned on me today as I've read back through the thread yes. Old habits die hard eh. I've made the decision not to shield him from it any more, it's not fair on anybody least of all him.

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MeRrYcHrIsTmAs2023 · 22/12/2023 20:23

Nicole1111 · 22/12/2023 20:21

What on earth have I stumbled upon?! A thread where the op talks about repeatedly being let down by her mother who appears to have almost no capacity for change despite her daughter and numerous services trying to help her, and somehow this has turned in to op being criticised. No apparent thought for the likely impact of her experiences on the op, respect for her having boundaries that protect her and her children or admiration for how she’s trying to protect her brother with seemingly little thought for her own feelings. You couldn’t write it.
Op I applaud you for breaking the cycle and I wish you a very very merry Christmas. Your family are lucky to have!

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Thank you so much ❤️

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AtrociousCircumstance · 22/12/2023 20:24

OP you have every right to distance yourself. I hope you have a peaceful Christmas and please do not for one moment feel any of the guilt that some (very few) posters are trying to lay on you for their own reasons.

caringcarer · 22/12/2023 20:25

Well I'd not be making a special trip to drop it over. Let her fetch it if she wants it or wait until she does turn up. I'd warn your brother again about how unreliable she is and I'd go full NC with her myself.

caringcarer · 22/12/2023 20:26

ReindeerShelter · 22/12/2023 12:04

YABU. This isn’t about her, or you. Your brother gave you the present in good faith to give to her.

Drop it off on her doorstep and leave it at that.

Why is it OP having to make a special trip to drop her gift from brother. He could post it or drop it across himself.

Member984815 · 23/12/2023 09:48

Please ignore the people suggesting you haven't done enough , you have . She doesn't want to change . Please take care of yourself , if your brother wants a relationship allow it to be separate from his relationship with you.

MeRrYcHrIsTmAs2023 · 23/12/2023 09:54

Thank you. I expect their relationship will fizzle out now i have stopped acting as middle woman unfortunately as mum just won't make the effort. It's shit for DB but nobody can change her, she is who she is.

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