to be INCENSED by the owners of the cars on BOTH SIDES of me in the P&T spaces to ...................wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwait for itttttttttttttttttt/////////////////..............................have NO children with them,.....!!!!!!!!

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I can;t believe it

Even my 11 DS was annoyed!!!

I ALSO never ever ever ever thought I'd start a thread about this.

I have lots of popcorn on standby

P&B spaces are there as a courtesy and it's up to individuals to use them or not, depending on how selfish (the norm these days, sigh) or thoughtful they are. Parking rage - and we've all seen it - busy car park, cars queuing for spaces, stalking shoppers with bags in the hope of picking off next available space, and waiting patiently for a car to pull out just to get someone pushing in and getting the spot you've waited for - is absolutely maddening, and incredibly unhealthy. (I have found myself on my car horn, blood pressure going through roof etc etc and is very unpleasant)
Difficult to second guess anyone's needs or intentions, but best to let the anger go and find a nicer quiet spot somewhere and enjoy the walk to the shops.

missy - yes, I thought the picture is a parent with a pushchair, as some space alongside car is useful to get LO in/out of car into same while avoiding being squished by cars driving past....
Anyway, there isn't a law about who can use them, just left to individuals' concience. (Do they still exist?)

glad im not the only one there the

Shop online to avoid future outrage. There will always be someone doing something annoying at a supermarket.

i wish i could shop online but i have no debit or credit cards

I didnt used to think much of p&t parking spaces until I parked in a normal space at tesco and someone parked so close to my car I couldnt open the door to get ds back in! I left him (about 3 months) with the shop staff (screaming - bet they were pleased!) and treid to reverse out so I coudl get ds in the back seat. But he was parked too close for me to even get out!

So we put amessage on the tannoy for him to move his car please, and he moaned and groaned the entire way out of the shop to his car! I pointed out the car seat in the back seat indicating a baby, and how close he was that you would need to be flat stanley to actually get in my car, and he still moaned and groaned.

so now I always go for p&t parking.
but I agree that all spaces should be that wide.

Desiderata - I never parked in a P&T or disabled space before I had Tom, so why do other people? Do people just read the signs and think "oh well, i'm here now" or are they just ignorant and knowingly pull into the spaces? I would have been so .

The next time some arsewipe parks right upto the side of the car the car seat is in (which has a sun blind on and toys dangly, so obviously a child goes in the car) i'm not going to be so carefull in getting Tom in/out of the car. One time I had no room what so ever and had to reverse the car back, with him in the pushchair still, just so I could get him in!

I was thinking earlier that I don't really remember going food shopping with my parents, like we take Tom. Was it the lack of child friendly spaces that put my parents off taking me? The spaces are kind of an incentive to get you in the shop, lol. I can just manage on my own with Tom, but would be pulling my hair out with another child in the supermarket on my own!

My DDs are older and when they were little there were NO p&t spaces and I just managed... cos that's what you do I managed to get 2 LO's in and out of a car with carseats and all the paraphanelia.. it isn't that hard. Disabled spaces are a must of course and there should be more.

I have parked in a p&t space (without children... shock horror) once to run into Boots and get an urgent prescription for very poorly mother. If someone had challenged me about it, I would have had a few choice words....

I think all spaces should be larger... someone opened their car door onto mine with great force and caused hundreds of pounds worth of damage.

We stopped off in Asda to get some bits before going to the in-laws for dinner. Their signs say you get a £60 fine for parking there if you have no children 12 or under in a car seat/booster. I wonder how many people have been fined?

We live in a flat on the High Street here. They have recently 'stopped' cars coming down the street between 11-5 mon-sat, but you still get people who do. We have been hassled by the traffic warden once. DF was a bit irked off, seeing as we live here and weren't just parking to go shopping. One time, we were loading up the car to go on holiday, and some guy who was standing smoking outside the (annoyingly loud at the weekends) pub across the road, complaining that we shouldn't be parked there.

Where we do park the car, there is a pharmacy and people will just park right outside the pharmacy even though the car park is 2 metres away! And it is tight getting in/out when people do that. Some guy had to wait to get out of his car, well he chose to, while I had to fanny around reversing because there wasn't room to get around from the angle I came out of my space. I gave him the finger. There were 6 spaces FFS!