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DDs school want me to COVID test her, AIBU to say no?

286 replies

mybossisaprick · 11/12/2023 16:43

Dd, who is in primary school, has got the cold that’s been going round. She’s not too unwell in herself, and is happily playing, but she has a husky voice and a cough. She’s maybe a bit more tired than normal, but nothing that would mean she would need to stay off school. If she was unwell enough to miss school, I’d keep her off.

Her teacher pulled me aside at pickup time and asked me if she’d taken a COVID test. I said no, she hadn’t. Teacher asked me why not, and I explained that she wasn’t unwell enough to miss school, and so there was no point testing her for COVID. Teacher said that I should test her anyway, and if positive she should stay home. I explained that myself and my partner both have to work, we don’t get enough leave as it is, and whilst if DD was actually unwell in herself and couldn’t go to school, one of us could stay off with her, but since she’s not, we really don't have the resources to be taking time off. Also, I don’t have easy access to tests and I’d rather not buy a test when I don’t need to.

AIBU to tell this teacher that I wouldn’t be testing DD?

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 11/12/2023 20:35

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I’ve got severe long covid. Can’t get out of bed.

Thanks for the compassion.

It was brought up at the Covid enquiry today. The amount of unfilled vacancies due to long covid.

SwingTheMonkey · 11/12/2023 20:52

Vinrouge4 · 11/12/2023 18:51

I have covid at the moment and it has totally knocked me for six. I tested because I don't want to pass it on to others. I guess the teacher doesn't really want to catch covid in time for Christmas. I think you are being inconsiderate.

Ah yeah, you’re probably right. Because everyone knows that teachers live at school and don’t go out shopping or to other public areas where they could catch Covid from any number of members of the public…

SwingTheMonkey · 11/12/2023 21:02

Annemcc32 · 11/12/2023 20:00

You are being more than unreasonable, you are putting other people's health at risk.
Why would you refuse to do this? You will be the first to complain if the teacher is off ill with Covid for weeks. Or if she is unable to work indefinitely if she doesn't fully recover and has to live with long covid.
I genuinely despair at this attitude. Are you aware of long covid at all? Do you understand that it can affect anybody? That the risk of not getting better is cumulative? That each infection carries serious risk?
But sure, it is inconvenient for you, so don't bother trying to protect the other children, the staff, all the vulnerable people who are particularly susceptible to Covid.
You don't want to do a test. You don't want to buy a test. She is in the wrong to ask you to consider anyone other than yourself.
Unbelievable.

You’re aware that the teacher could catch Covid from literally anywhere? And that any number of people around them, at any one time, could have Covid and be asymptomatic? What’s the point of asking op if she’s tested her child, when they’ve been in school all day? Does the school also have a Time Machine?

I think the scariest thing about Covid, is that it’s made lots of people lose any ability to use common sense.

Savedpassword · 11/12/2023 21:08

Any sign of Joe Wicks yet?

Presumably those who suggest that kids be kept at hime to protect teachers are assuming that the teachers are not going anywhere in public?

Given that DDs teachers were ( quite rightfully) cheek to nose at their Christmas do in a massive hotel ballroom on Saturday night, I’d be perplexed if there was any notion of a child being tested. Luckily our school has always adopted a fairly sensible approach to Covid.

Gingerbee · 11/12/2023 21:13

Sadly. People have forgotten that children and teenagers can and do suffer from long covid.

https://www.itv.com/news/2023-01-20/i-really-miss-school-71000-children-in-uk-suffering-from-long-covid

Vinrouge4 · 11/12/2023 21:16

SwingTheMonkey · 11/12/2023 20:52

Ah yeah, you’re probably right. Because everyone knows that teachers live at school and don’t go out shopping or to other public areas where they could catch Covid from any number of members of the public…

The risk from walking around a shopping centre or a child coughing or sneezing in your face is really not the same.

KarmenPQZ · 11/12/2023 21:21

I would be asking the school’s policy on testing and what difference a positive test makes. Whether it’s just for their info gathering purposes or whether they expect your child to be excluded if they do test positive.

excluding based on a positive test result is outrageous as we now know the implications of children missing school due to covid…. Be it adhoc or lengthy lockdowns.

If the test is negative then they still clearly have some sort of virus that they’re sharing that could have a massive impact on someone who’s immuno compromised. But if they’re well enough to go into school then absolutely they should go in.

our school insist on attendance regardless we’re testing for ONS only and I sent my symptomless unvaccinated just turned 5 year old in in their request.

KarmenPQZ · 11/12/2023 21:32

LimeCheesecake · 11/12/2023 18:37

@Ardith - to be fair- they are working, but a lot of people are using up old stashes of tests that are out of date. I’ve just had covid- it brought up positives on the days I felt shocking and I’ve saved the last of the tests in the box to test today as I’m due back in work tomorrow and it’s negative. If it had been positive, I’d be expected back in work anyway, because although I’m shattered and achy, I’m not too sick to be at work.

I work with teenagers.

OP - send your dd in if she’s well enough to be at school.

My experience is different. I got sent a batch of fresh tests last month from ONS. My unvaccinated symptomless son tested positive. I had sore throat, cough, migraine, fevers. And tested negative

DoodleMum12 · 11/12/2023 21:38

FFS! This is ridiculous- I would flat out refuse and ignore the school!

miniegg3 · 11/12/2023 21:47

Pretty sure my son has covid right now. High temp, cough, stomach ache, off his food.. I kept him home and when I called school up I was just asked "oh has the got the cough and high temperature?" They just day to stay off if not well enough to come in. I thought that was across the board now?

I have however ordered some tests as I would like to keep away from certain family members if it is covid

Toddlerteaplease · 11/12/2023 21:48

@Paperwhiteflowers that's the policy. We have no choice. And we'd still go in if we had a cold pre COVID. At least now we wear a mask if we have a bug.

Workworkandmoreworknow · 11/12/2023 21:51

I would assume someone own the class is considered particularly vulnerable.

Annemcc32 · 11/12/2023 21:51

You are aware that absolving yourself from feeling any guilt or taking any responsibility for your actions by using this excuse does not actually mean other people will agree with it?
You have a moral responsibility to try not to pass on Covid. It is dangerous. It kills people. It causes long covid which is a recognised disability. It destroys lives.
If you knowingly do so, you are totally in the wrong. I don’t think there’s any defence for it. Covid can literally kill people!
I think the pandemic has revealed some people’s true colours. Not a care for others, just themselves.
The problem there though, is that long covid hits after any infection and we are all vulnerable. You might feel differently about this ‘dilemma’ if you or a loved one do not recover from your next infection, or the one after that, or the one after that…you get the idea.
Read the data just released from Canada. 38% of people left with long covid after infection #3. This will not end well.

crew2022 · 11/12/2023 21:56

I think some posters are glossing over the fact flu kills people. Noro virus kills vulnerable people.
Keep hand hygiene going but otherwise we all need to get on with living. Otherwise there will be unintended consequences

Rachie1973 · 11/12/2023 22:04

Lokipokey1 · 11/12/2023 17:19

Maybe teacher knows there is a child or a child’s family member that could be compromised by catching Covid. I can’t imagine any teacher suggesting you test otherwise. She may have been informed this week that little Gina’s mum has breast cancer and is starting treatment and obviously cannot share this, but wants to keep Gina’s mum as safe as possible?

My DH is just starting chemo in preparation for a bone marrow transplant, we don’t expect other people to keep their kids off school. Ours are full of bugs and germs right now. It’s impossible to shield from everything so we try not to stress about it.

Paperwhiteflowers · 11/12/2023 22:10

Cloclo93 · 11/12/2023 18:19

@Paperwhiteflowers why does your vaccine not protect you?

Because I am immunosuppressed and a) the vaccine doesn’t work as well and b) I can’t fight off infection in the same way as someone who isn’t.

VanityDiesHard · 11/12/2023 22:14

Annemcc32 · 11/12/2023 21:51

You are aware that absolving yourself from feeling any guilt or taking any responsibility for your actions by using this excuse does not actually mean other people will agree with it?
You have a moral responsibility to try not to pass on Covid. It is dangerous. It kills people. It causes long covid which is a recognised disability. It destroys lives.
If you knowingly do so, you are totally in the wrong. I don’t think there’s any defence for it. Covid can literally kill people!
I think the pandemic has revealed some people’s true colours. Not a care for others, just themselves.
The problem there though, is that long covid hits after any infection and we are all vulnerable. You might feel differently about this ‘dilemma’ if you or a loved one do not recover from your next infection, or the one after that, or the one after that…you get the idea.
Read the data just released from Canada. 38% of people left with long covid after infection #3. This will not end well.

There are so many colds and viruses around, Covid is not special. We just have to get on with it. The world stopped for nearly two years! If the panickers had their way we would be locked down to this day.

Paperwhiteflowers · 11/12/2023 22:15

HFJ · 11/12/2023 18:20

It is a fact of life that there are immunocompromised people. In most schools, there will be children with allergies, vitamin deficiencies, various conditions that make them more vulnerable to illness. If all children had to stay at home just in case of their potential effect on others a) attendance would be poor b) their education would suffer c) many parents would find themselves in financial difficulty or facing losing their jobs. The teacher was wrong.

My comment was about the nurses going to work with covid.

Paperwhiteflowers · 11/12/2023 22:18

Toddlerteaplease · 11/12/2023 21:48

@Paperwhiteflowers that's the policy. We have no choice. And we'd still go in if we had a cold pre COVID. At least now we wear a mask if we have a bug.

I’m sure it is and I’m not blaming you personally. Good to hear you are wearing masks if you are unwell but it makes me nervous when I have to go to hospital as patients are still catching it when there. I would like the more vulnerable patients to be somewhat more protected.

Annemcc32 · 11/12/2023 22:19

But, that’s false. Just because you choose not to try and understand Covid why must other people have to suffer because of your wilful ignorance?

VanityDiesHard · 11/12/2023 22:23

Annemcc32 · 11/12/2023 22:19

But, that’s false. Just because you choose not to try and understand Covid why must other people have to suffer because of your wilful ignorance?

What's false? That there are other colds apart from Covid? The point is that the world has moved on, and this school doesn't seem to have got the message. People on this thread can bleat all they want. We are now four years in and nobody is worrying about Covid any more.

Annemcc32 · 11/12/2023 22:26

All your posts show is that have no understanding of Covid. Comparing it to a cold demonstrates your lack of knowledge. No amount of insults towards others who do understand the risks will hide your ignorance.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 11/12/2023 22:37

VanityDiesHard · 11/12/2023 22:23

What's false? That there are other colds apart from Covid? The point is that the world has moved on, and this school doesn't seem to have got the message. People on this thread can bleat all they want. We are now four years in and nobody is worrying about Covid any more.

Well l am.

Long covid is kind of shit really. And l don’t want to get covid on top of long covid really. You know, because I’m so incredibly unwell now…..

So yeah, I’m fucking worried all the time.

VanityDiesHard · 11/12/2023 22:42

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 11/12/2023 22:37

Well l am.

Long covid is kind of shit really. And l don’t want to get covid on top of long covid really. You know, because I’m so incredibly unwell now…..

So yeah, I’m fucking worried all the time.

That can't be good for your mental health at all. Being in a constant state of anxiety and high alert is probably worse for the body than Covid, particularly as mild as it has got now. I had Covid twice and it was a slight inconvenience, I can't fathom getting so het up about it.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 11/12/2023 22:44

But I’m not in a state of high anxiety. So it’s not that. Nor am l on high alert.

Im too tired to be either of those things. I just don’t have a life. Because Covid’s just a cold or nobody cares anymore.