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To think kids media should ease up on the representations of snow

208 replies

someladdersandsnakes · 06/12/2023 07:57

Trying to be lighthearted here but this is bugging me
CBeebies has wall-to-wall snow right now, in all the Christmas episodes and in-between segments, anything to do with Christmas or winter = SNOW SNOW SNOW
Except for Bluey which represents Australian December accurately.
Also books from the library, British ones, it's snowing at Christmas and anything about the seasons is like "in winter it snows bla bla bla"
Well my DD has never seen snow in all of her 5 years and she asks every day when it's going to start snowing, and getting disappointed that it isn't snowing yet.
AIBU to want to see Christmas or winter represented without snow occasionally so it's accurate to our actual lives?

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Tiredalwaystired · 06/12/2023 11:34

Can I suggest you look for a book called “I spy at the seaside”? You might have better luck.

Surelyitscoffeetime · 06/12/2023 11:39

I’m with you. Penguins being linked with Christmas also drives me nuts.

FrustatedAgain · 06/12/2023 11:45

I agree OP, in all my decades on this earth, and there's been lots of them I've never seen a white Christmas. I can count on one hand how many times my children have experienced snow in the UK. However when they are younger they do keep asking when its going to snow in December and it just doesn't!

Rollawaythestone · 06/12/2023 11:51

MargotBamborough · 06/12/2023 09:38

This is an unkind comment.

The OP didn't say her child has never seen a duck, she said she didn't see a duck until she was 3 because there aren't any locally and the first few years of her life coincided with Covid/lockdown and not having a car.

I stand by the comment. The OP lives in Brighton and very centrally, by the sounds of it. Other people have pointed out that there are parks with ducks in Brighton. People were encouraged to get out of the house during lockdown and have a walk.

BarnacleBeasley · 06/12/2023 11:52

Think there's a seagull in 'Where's Mrs Whale'. There's also a seagull in How to Catch a Star by Oliver Jeffers, but he is a bastard and doesn't want to help the little boy get a star. My child is a bit younger than yours. When she is older, I seem to remember a stray seagull quite far inland in Watership Down.

Cas112 · 06/12/2023 11:56

Sure its not long been snowing 😕

SharonEllis · 06/12/2023 12:06

I'm baffled. Surely learning the world is full of difference is part of growing up? Take child to a farm to see ducks? There are books about christmas that don't include snow too.

CaptainMyCaptain · 06/12/2023 12:08

Nothingbuttheglory · 06/12/2023 08:05

3 yo dc cried the other day when I told them Christmas Day probably wouldn't be snowy.

My Dad told me it hardly ever snowed at Christmas when I was 7. It started snowing on Boxing day and didn't clear until March - the famous winter of 1963!

someladdersandsnakes · 06/12/2023 12:10

Rollawaythestone · 06/12/2023 11:51

I stand by the comment. The OP lives in Brighton and very centrally, by the sounds of it. Other people have pointed out that there are parks with ducks in Brighton. People were encouraged to get out of the house during lockdown and have a walk.

JFC
I don't live in central Brighton. I live in Brighton, on the coast. Not central Brighton and nowhere near Queen's Park which was one of the parks mentioned. Another mentioned was in Lancing which is also nowhere near me though we did go there this year once. And Stanmer was mentioned which is far inland and again nowhere near me. There are 4 parks in easy walking distance of my house - 1 is on the beach, 1 has a little forest area but no fresh water, 2 are rec grounds with a playground. During covid we rotated those 4 parks and the beach and went out to one of them every day or twice a day. There were a couple of other parks we would go to for a change, which are a longer walk or very short bus journey, one has a forest and horses and trees but no water. One has a lovely sand area and cafe but no water. Anywhere else was too far away to bother with when we have so many nice outdoor spaces locally that don't take two buses to get to. And no ducks in a single one of them. I'm sorry my local area lacks ducks. Do you still not believe me?

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BarnacleBeasley · 06/12/2023 12:12

I believe you OP about the ducks - I live in a seaside village and we have eider ducks in the harbour but no mallards.

JamieKnows · 06/12/2023 12:26

Valley Ponds has ducks also and by the sounds of it isn't too far from you. But I think the main issue is probably that you'll always have a small world if you stay within walking distance of your house!

Covid did teach us that but it was a tiny snapshot of time. Your dd must've been 18 months old by then and the last 2 years have been fine too.

CaptainMyCaptain · 06/12/2023 12:34

I still don't see the problem. My child saw plenty of ducks at that age but no lions, tigers, elephants etc. She only saw them in books but would have recognised one if she saw it. Surely extending a child's world outside their immediate experience is one of the reasons we have books.

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 06/12/2023 12:40

OP I couldn't agree with you more re the snow. This was a big issue for years in my house, eldest was constantly disappointed about it at Christmas, despite me telling him repeatedly that it was never going to happen. When Storm Emma arrived in 2018 he was saying 'about time' but still moaned that it wasn't there for Christmas. I

As for those telling OP 'but it snows where I live' really what is the point of that? Surely OP's point is that 100% of Christmas representations include snow, when only some parts of the UK get snow. If it was any other issue there would be changes to be inclusive.

What particularly pissed me off was a Christmas ad was filmed in my city a few years ago showing it snow covered (literally never seen it like this other than 2018 and apparently once in 1994, but I didn't live here) which required fake snow for filming obviously, and shows recognisable landmarks. The ad says its Christmas eve and shows kids making snowmen and throwing snowballs. My kids always used to ask why did we not go to the city that day, how come it used to snow at Christmas etc etc. Do parents not have enough to worry about without this BS.

someladdersandsnakes · 06/12/2023 13:29

JamieKnows · 06/12/2023 12:26

Valley Ponds has ducks also and by the sounds of it isn't too far from you. But I think the main issue is probably that you'll always have a small world if you stay within walking distance of your house!

Covid did teach us that but it was a tiny snapshot of time. Your dd must've been 18 months old by then and the last 2 years have been fine too.

This is a RTFT issue, I've been going further than walking distance from my house on a regular basis the last two years and DD has seen ducks lots of times. I was talking about 2020/21.

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JanetandRita · 06/12/2023 13:30

Ducks are overrated. They can be really mean and I much prefer swans.

Gulls rock.

I was so disappointed as a child visiting a pebble beach for the first time. I asked mum where the sand was, which was the only type of beach I'd seen in books and on TV. I was inconsolable when mum said this beach does not have sand.

someladdersandsnakes · 06/12/2023 13:32

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 06/12/2023 12:40

OP I couldn't agree with you more re the snow. This was a big issue for years in my house, eldest was constantly disappointed about it at Christmas, despite me telling him repeatedly that it was never going to happen. When Storm Emma arrived in 2018 he was saying 'about time' but still moaned that it wasn't there for Christmas. I

As for those telling OP 'but it snows where I live' really what is the point of that? Surely OP's point is that 100% of Christmas representations include snow, when only some parts of the UK get snow. If it was any other issue there would be changes to be inclusive.

What particularly pissed me off was a Christmas ad was filmed in my city a few years ago showing it snow covered (literally never seen it like this other than 2018 and apparently once in 1994, but I didn't live here) which required fake snow for filming obviously, and shows recognisable landmarks. The ad says its Christmas eve and shows kids making snowmen and throwing snowballs. My kids always used to ask why did we not go to the city that day, how come it used to snow at Christmas etc etc. Do parents not have enough to worry about without this BS.

Exactly! I wasn't saying snow should not feature in anything, just that snow is totally omnipresent in these things and I find it silly because even if you live in a part of the country where you occasionally get snow, most of winter still isn't snowy, Christmas day is hardly ever snowy, and lots of places in the UK hardly get any snow ever.

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JamieKnows · 06/12/2023 13:50

"This is a RTFT issue, I've been going further than walking distance from my house on a regular basis the last two years and DD has seen ducks lots of times. I was talking about 2020/21."

No it isn't, I read the full thread. As I said, it sounds like you're in walking distance of Valley Ponds where there are ducks. There were ducks in 2020/21 there also 🦆

someladdersandsnakes · 06/12/2023 14:41

JamieKnows · 06/12/2023 13:50

"This is a RTFT issue, I've been going further than walking distance from my house on a regular basis the last two years and DD has seen ducks lots of times. I was talking about 2020/21."

No it isn't, I read the full thread. As I said, it sounds like you're in walking distance of Valley Ponds where there are ducks. There were ducks in 2020/21 there also 🦆

I had to look up valley ponds because I'd never heard of it, apparently it's in Newhaven. I said I lived in Brighton, on the seafront. Newhaven and Brighton are MILES from each other even if I lived on the East side of it, which I don't. Why the f* are you so confident you know exactly where I live???

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Iwantmyoldnameback · 06/12/2023 14:45

The Lighthouse Keepers Lunch is all about sea gulls.

Ponoka7 · 06/12/2023 15:43

Floatlikeafeather2 · 06/12/2023 09:40

Snow sticking or not is absolutely nothing to do with "salt in the air". I live on the coast in Cumbria and we had a few days of complete whiteout last weekend, even on the beach. We can see Blackpool from our beach too.

That's what was said a few times by locals. The weekends we've been there when it's been frosty everywhere else on the way to Liverpool, it's been clear in Blackpool. I know in Liverpool a lot of the extreme weather misses us because of where we are placed.

DemBonesDemBones · 06/12/2023 15:59

There's snow here 🤷‍♀️

beanii · 06/12/2023 19:29

Does she also think that people go around singing and animals talk?

No. You just explain that TV programmes and stories don't have to be realistic.

Abbyant · 06/12/2023 19:36

where is this snowless place you live? I hate the snow and being by the coast it turns mushy straight away

Moanyoldmoan · 06/12/2023 20:08

I’m with you. My kids think Christmas Day means 5ft of lovely thick snow and can’t grasp when I explain it’ll probably be raining. We are also South coast