Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think kids media should ease up on the representations of snow

208 replies

someladdersandsnakes · 06/12/2023 07:57

Trying to be lighthearted here but this is bugging me
CBeebies has wall-to-wall snow right now, in all the Christmas episodes and in-between segments, anything to do with Christmas or winter = SNOW SNOW SNOW
Except for Bluey which represents Australian December accurately.
Also books from the library, British ones, it's snowing at Christmas and anything about the seasons is like "in winter it snows bla bla bla"
Well my DD has never seen snow in all of her 5 years and she asks every day when it's going to start snowing, and getting disappointed that it isn't snowing yet.
AIBU to want to see Christmas or winter represented without snow occasionally so it's accurate to our actual lives?

OP posts:
Unbego · 06/12/2023 09:14

fat characters who live in a hill with a mad vacuum...

Helllllooooo

vitahelp · 06/12/2023 09:18

Haha I know what you mean! Although I was surprised reading the Alfie at Christmas book with DD this week, which made a point of mentioning that there wasn't any snow on Christmas day. Perhaps Shirley Hughes was from a similar part of the country to yourself where there is rarely snow.

Beezknees · 06/12/2023 09:18

Not seen any ducks until age 3? I'm baffled! Where do you live? Do you never go for days out in other places?

SmokySilverShine · 06/12/2023 09:18

I grew up in a seaside town until the age of four, but there are lots of photos of me at the local park, with swans and ducks. A five minute walk from the sea.
you are being unreasonable
And although I can’t name them,I’ve seen plenty of gulls in children’s books.

Caravaggiouch · 06/12/2023 09:19

I’ve got a 5 year old and don’t live in a particularly snowy area (coastal) and she’s seen plenty of snow in her lifetime. I’m glad they’re representing areas of the UK outside the south east!

cheezncrackers · 06/12/2023 09:19

You really need to get out more OP. Do you honestly not have a duck pond anywhere in your vicinity? If it doesn't snow and you haven't been somewhere snowy, fair enough, but this is hardly a new phenomenon. I'm 50 and Christmas-themed stuff has always had snow on it!!

Rightsraptor · 06/12/2023 09:22

I've always been annoyed by films that depict a snowy English Christmas as the norm, when Christmas is more typically wet than snowy.

Leafysuburb · 06/12/2023 09:22

I thought Dickens started the link between Christmas and snow specifically. I think most christmad days have been rainy and dull for me over my 40 years, it's always been February for snow.

So blame Dickens.

Creepedmeout · 06/12/2023 09:23

I remember Christmas 2010 very well as we had a newborn and DH had to walk to the supermarket on Xmas Eve for a makeshift roast dinner as a visit to family was out of the question with 15” of snow. We had snow for around 6weeks. This was in the south midlands, hardly the highlands
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8447023.stm

BBC News - Frozen Britain seen from above

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8447023.stm

Creepedmeout · 06/12/2023 09:25

*2009

Fannyfiggs · 06/12/2023 09:31

Snow joke

Get your gulls in a row

LTB

chiwowowa · 06/12/2023 09:31

Caravaggiouch yes this might be a good thing, media tends to be south and London centric! It's been really damp and grey, west of London for the last weeks

I live near the Thames and sadly do not see as many ducks and swans as I'd like. If we go to feed the ducks we often get mobbed by Canada Geese and Gulls 😬

Godwindar · 06/12/2023 09:32

I live in a massive inland city and see and hear loads of gulls that have moved inland since the overfishing of the sea. That said, going to the park to see ducks is possible in lots of coastal areas.

Jingleeaster · 06/12/2023 09:33

Isn't it an important life lesson? It does not snow here at Christmas.

someladdersandsnakes · 06/12/2023 09:33

I've had a lot of incredulous comments about the duck thing so to defend myself:
I live in Brighton near the seafront
None of my local parks have ponds
There might be ducks in ponds further inland, for all I know
BUT
I don't have a car
A huge part of DD's early years was either lockdown or being cautious and not using public transport
So we weren't leaving our local vicinity much until she was close to 3 and at that point our priority was not making our way to a different suburb in the chance of seeing some ducks!

I understand it seems weird though because the town I grew up in and the town DH grew up in has ducks everywhere and that's probably true most places. I've been to lots of parks in Brighton now though and still never seen a duck.

OP posts:
MargotBamborough · 06/12/2023 09:34

someladdersandsnakes · 06/12/2023 08:13

I also get annoyed by the lack of seagull representation in kid's media when there are so many ducks, and DD never saw a real duck until she was 3. I didn't start a thread about that though because that seemed much more specific to seaside towns! Maybe the snow thing is too.

Not sure what books you've been reading but seagulls are the only birds my two year old can identify, as they are always cropping up in his books.

We've been reading the Little Red Train series which has beautiful illustrations and there are seagulls all over the place.

The Snail and the Whale has lots of them too.

EvelynKatie · 06/12/2023 09:34

I live in the north and we get snow every year, so it does amaze me there's places in the UK that don't get any for years! We had lots of snow late last week and at the weekend. I remember a few Christmas days with snow too.

Floatlikeafeather2 · 06/12/2023 09:36

I know you can't help the weather in your locality but shame on you if your child hasn't seen a duck. Do you expect the telly to provide them with every life experience? It can't. You should be doing that.

ActDottie · 06/12/2023 09:37

Where do you live such that you’ve not seen snow for 5 years? We have snow every year just not necessarily around Christmas.

instaready · 06/12/2023 09:37

Let's change the whole UKs view of winter to suit the SE.
I know children who have never been to a beach (an hours travel). Another child's social worker arranged for the family to have a seaside holiday. I've never heard of social work arranging a snow holiday.

Seagulls get a bad rep around here and we're not coastal.

Justfinking · 06/12/2023 09:38

Surely snow is the only positive about living somewhere where it's Christmas in winter? YABU to try and diminish the positive fantasy that is portrayed about a white Christmas

MargotBamborough · 06/12/2023 09:38

Floatlikeafeather2 · 06/12/2023 09:36

I know you can't help the weather in your locality but shame on you if your child hasn't seen a duck. Do you expect the telly to provide them with every life experience? It can't. You should be doing that.

This is an unkind comment.

The OP didn't say her child has never seen a duck, she said she didn't see a duck until she was 3 because there aren't any locally and the first few years of her life coincided with Covid/lockdown and not having a car.

RudsyFarmer · 06/12/2023 09:39

YABU. I always loved the wintry TV as a kid even if we didn’t get snow over Christmas. It’s what made it magical!! Why not take your child somewhere snowy and blow her mind.

Floatlikeafeather2 · 06/12/2023 09:40

Ponoka7 · 06/12/2023 08:35

We were queuing at a free fair for children on Saturday when it started snowing. My GC choir was singing so we had to stay. It looks magical in the American movies, in RL it's shit.

Last year it was snowing when we left Liverpool to discover that snow doesn't stick in Blackpool because of all the salt in the air. If you have to go out and about, no snow is better. Many of us live in roads that deliveries can't go down once there's a hint of ice.

Snow sticking or not is absolutely nothing to do with "salt in the air". I live on the coast in Cumbria and we had a few days of complete whiteout last weekend, even on the beach. We can see Blackpool from our beach too.

Wills · 06/12/2023 09:41

It’s not just young children. My 14 year old is avidly watching the metoffice app because it’s warming up and it’s just not a proper Christmas without snow!