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To be horrified to learn that there are men .. TMI warning

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Doingtheboxerbeat · 02/12/2023 18:03

This is not a men bashing thread
There are actual adult men that are unaware that periods can't be controlled like other body fluids and that pads and tampons are there in case of leaks. That we can hold it in until we visit the toilet.

At first I thought bullshit, then I realised, actually how would they know unless someone specifically pointed out the difference. I can't remember ever being told this, because I started in primary school before I learned about it at school.

I discovered this from a Reddit post so probably bs that a single parent man who was probably quite poor and thought that his daughter was wasteful/ too lazy to just not wait to visit the toilet.

I have never in my life met any man that thought this, but then again, I have never asked, but then I think about how many millions of people are uneducated about things that don't really affect them.

This is batshit, right ?

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mathanxiety · 04/12/2023 15:46

AInightingale · 02/12/2023 20:20

In relation to this, many women are taken by surprise by how heavy the bleeding is after birth. I don't know why this isn't talked about more. I got a rude awakening having only brought two packs in my hospital bag, and ended up staying for three days. I had to ask my son's father to bring more in, which he didn't do, being an arsehole, so had to grovel for some from the midwives. The NHS don't give them out willingly.

Yet another appalling instance of women's needs being completely disregarded.

I had my babies in the US and didn't have to bring a single pad from home. (Or a nightie, or underwear except for what I wore going home). The hospitals supplied perineal ice packs, perineal irrigation bottles, stacks of massive maternity pads, nappies for the babies, and little hospital gowns, stocking hats, and blankets for them too, which were for taking home.

mathanxiety · 04/12/2023 15:56

@CrapGoat
I think your lodger has a period fetish.
Either that or he gets some sort of perverse enjoyment out of getting you to talk about periods or vaginas.

mathanxiety · 04/12/2023 16:09

MoreEqualPig · 02/12/2023 22:04

When I was about 12 I had really bad cystitis and was peeing blood. I told my mum who said it was my first period. When I said it couldn't be, because the blood was coming from where I pee she told me that's where blood comes from for your period.
I was really confused for the next few years although now I realise she probably didn't know. She went to a convent school in 1960s Ireland and would not have had any sex education.

Oh come on. Irish women of a certain age are not a bunch of ignoramuses who were told nothing by their teachers or their parents. Irish nurses in their thousands staffed the NHS from when it first originated.

My mum went to a convent boarding school in Ireland in the 1940s - 50s and never had any misconceptions about matters relating to anatomy.

Reugny · 04/12/2023 16:13

mathanxiety · 04/12/2023 15:46

Yet another appalling instance of women's needs being completely disregarded.

I had my babies in the US and didn't have to bring a single pad from home. (Or a nightie, or underwear except for what I wore going home). The hospitals supplied perineal ice packs, perineal irrigation bottles, stacks of massive maternity pads, nappies for the babies, and little hospital gowns, stocking hats, and blankets for them too, which were for taking home.

You don't get nappies in my maternity hospital or formula unless it is "exceptional" circumstances.

BTW how much did you pay for having a baby?

mathanxiety · 04/12/2023 16:26

BertieBotts · 02/12/2023 23:16

When I had babies in Germany they were extremely horrified when I suggested having a bath while I was still bleeding after birth and couldn't believe it when I said it is offered as standard in the UK. On the maternity ward, they had no baths, only showers. And in the children's ward, they had a separate toilet for bleeding postpartum mums that nobody else was allowed to use and we were not allowed into the bathroom for that ward, only a shower cubicle.

They say that the lochia is full of bacteria and that bacteria will get into the bath water and into your milk through your nipples and give you an infection.

No bathing post partum in the US either. Just showers. Most post partum rooms in hospitals have an ensuite shower/ loo, and they're cleaned twice a day.

The reason is to avoid infection from a bathtub that might not have been disinfected beforehand getting into the vagina and into any external stitches or abrasions.

Perineal irrigation bottles were given out and used as you would use a bidet.

Cloudisi · 04/12/2023 16:30

You can move the string to the rear and sort of wedge it between your butt cheeks, then lean forwards while peeing, and the string will stay dry.

Good idea, although as I'm changing about 4-5 times a day, I wouldn't say that's much more than a regular woman changes her tampon in 24 hours surely? One in the morning before work, once on lunch break, once when get home from work, once after dinner/early evening kinda time, and maybe once just before bed. I suppose it depends how heavy

Mischance · 04/12/2023 17:25

I no longer have periods after a hysterectomy, but honestly I never gave a second thought to pee getting on the string - what is the problem?

ManAboutTown · 04/12/2023 18:39

I learned quite a lot of the gory bits about childbirth at antenatal classes - knew obvious stuff like the blood and cutting the cord but other stuff ..

Episiotomies
Mother shitting whilst pushing
Size and frequency of pads required in days after giving birth
Temperature in the delivery suite

Calliopespa · 04/12/2023 19:01

ManAboutTown · 04/12/2023 18:39

I learned quite a lot of the gory bits about childbirth at antenatal classes - knew obvious stuff like the blood and cutting the cord but other stuff ..

Episiotomies
Mother shitting whilst pushing
Size and frequency of pads required in days after giving birth
Temperature in the delivery suite

Have to admit I was irrevocably committed to the pregnancy and birthing process by the time I realised the extent of the physical impact. Suddenly older women, DM, GP etc got very open and vocal whereas I had somehow been spared the details until there was no going back. It was when I was immobilised completely by sciatica that DM and GP ( female) both said mildly with a benign smile that this is “ oh very common in pregnancy. The baby is just pressing on a nerve.” At that point I kind of extrapolated what the rest of it might look like pain wise. I had, however, been memorably informed about the involuntary farting during birth by my aunt.

Emotionalsupportviper · 04/12/2023 19:04

Santaiswashinghissleigh · 04/12/2023 14:43

I would like to add a suitable joke if i may..
A young lad started work at a chemist and asked the older assistant what he should do if a young lady can in for sanitary items and it was embarrassing.. The older and wiser assistant suggested he make a joke to ease the situation... Lovely young lady comes in to buy some cotton wool. The young lad quickly piped up to ask her if she rolled her own?!
Sorry was funny many moons ago!!
As you were....

LOL!

AmazingSnakeHead · 04/12/2023 19:06

Ah yes, the pads. A few days post partum DP noticed some blood on my sheets and asked what the matter was, was I ok. I was confused as to why he was confused because he had bought me the maternity pads that very morning. Turns out he thought they were incontinence pads and didn't realise that women bleed after a baby.

superplumb · 04/12/2023 19:14

My husband didn't realise that all women go through the menopause of sorts whether natural or via surgery. I made him watch the davina doc and his mind was blown

Moredarkchocolateplease · 04/12/2023 19:36

ManAboutTown · 04/12/2023 18:39

I learned quite a lot of the gory bits about childbirth at antenatal classes - knew obvious stuff like the blood and cutting the cord but other stuff ..

Episiotomies
Mother shitting whilst pushing
Size and frequency of pads required in days after giving birth
Temperature in the delivery suite

I blocked all that stuff out at NCT and antenatal classes. Massage my perineum with oil? I couldn't have told you which but my perineum was, let alone want to massage it!

And I got told off by a midwife when I opened my bedroom window after having DD. We were in for a week in a private room and it was hotter than hell. I maintain DD needed the fresh air by that point so I opened it again once she left the room.

fetchacloth · 04/12/2023 20:03

JFDIYOLO · 04/12/2023 14:51

Our school biology textbooks had diagram of male and female organs all labelled. Where the clitoris should be eas just an empty space. Fifteen girls silently thinking they were deformed, bunch of boys left in the dark.

Presumably the book was written by a man 😞

Elfontheshmelf · 04/12/2023 21:08

I have a seven year old son and there seems to be a real movement for teaching children anatomically correct names for genitalia, for safeguarding reasons and to remove shame. My son was taught the words vulva, anus and penis in school and had to label illustrations of little boys and girls alongside labelling thier ears, mouth and elbows etc.. which I really think is a great start to sex ed. My niece also has a dolly with anatomically correct genitalia, rather than the classic smooth plastic. So I actually have a lot of hope for the next generation. Its almost becoming unacceptable to call those body parts 'flowers' or whatever. I've had to have a conversation with my son off the back of what he learned in school about female anatomy already, as I'd already taught him the word vagina at home and then he came home telling me it was a vulva.

Not sure when I will explain periods to my son but this thread has made me realise everything I need to cover when we do have the talk. It seems obvious to me that you can't hold it in but maybe it's not.

Cloudisi · 04/12/2023 23:30

pee getting on the string - what is the problem

Just find the idea of having a pissy string in my knickers disgusting, that's all, and my head tells me if it's on the sting it might wick up to the tampon. Just don't like it. If you don't mind, you don't mind. I don't like the idea if wearing pads, some problem prefer them.

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 05/12/2023 16:37

I don’t really like the idea of something soaked in pee staying in my knickers even if nowadays it would physically hurt to drag a tampon out (I get through one pad in two or so days). As anyone who has ever pulled out a dry tampon knows it hurts a fair bit.

Pizdietz · 05/12/2023 17:10

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 05/12/2023 16:37

I don’t really like the idea of something soaked in pee staying in my knickers even if nowadays it would physically hurt to drag a tampon out (I get through one pad in two or so days). As anyone who has ever pulled out a dry tampon knows it hurts a fair bit.

I wish you hadn't written that, it's the same as hearing fingernails grating down a blackboard!!!!!!! My teeth are on edge now and it's all your fault 😜

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 05/12/2023 17:13

Sorry! Didn’t mean to cause collateral damage. But you can’t exactly leave it in for the next month, as the leaflets that taught me how to use a tampon taught me, you’re risking TSS.

StarlightLady · 05/12/2023 17:49

We can cope with collateral damage but not clitoral damage 😀.

l’ve never been a fan of body modification but I’m considering getting a flashing light attached to mine 😅. I think I’m joking.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 26/12/2023 15:18

Didnt realise some have baths without a tampon in. Wouldn't be able to sit and relax in the water.

AppleCrispMacchiato · 26/12/2023 21:21

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 26/12/2023 15:18

Didnt realise some have baths without a tampon in. Wouldn't be able to sit and relax in the water.

I personally don't use tampons at all, and I can't live without baths. It does get a bit horror movie occasionally, but maybe I'm a weirdo because I find it bizarrely fascinating to watch.

XenoBitch · 26/12/2023 23:23

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 26/12/2023 15:18

Didnt realise some have baths without a tampon in. Wouldn't be able to sit and relax in the water.

My period always seems to pause when I am in water (no tampons).

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