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To be horrified to learn that there are men .. TMI warning

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Doingtheboxerbeat · 02/12/2023 18:03

This is not a men bashing thread
There are actual adult men that are unaware that periods can't be controlled like other body fluids and that pads and tampons are there in case of leaks. That we can hold it in until we visit the toilet.

At first I thought bullshit, then I realised, actually how would they know unless someone specifically pointed out the difference. I can't remember ever being told this, because I started in primary school before I learned about it at school.

I discovered this from a Reddit post so probably bs that a single parent man who was probably quite poor and thought that his daughter was wasteful/ too lazy to just not wait to visit the toilet.

I have never in my life met any man that thought this, but then again, I have never asked, but then I think about how many millions of people are uneducated about things that don't really affect them.

This is batshit, right ?

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YourWinter · 02/12/2023 21:29

I’m in my late 60s. At my mixed grammar school I did biology to O-Level but I don’t remember learning about periods at school, other than seeking out books in the library.

The hymen was referred to as the “maidenhead” and it was disconcerting to see road signs to the town when we had a school trip to Windsor Castle!

Fitrix29 · 02/12/2023 21:29

Santaiswashinghissleigh · 02/12/2023 18:29

A bf in his 30's asked if I had to remove a tampon to wee... When I got married my dh first saw female genitals when i was giving birth to his first dc...

So let me get this straight, you managed to conceive DC without your husband seeing your genitals? I mean that in itself is a bit odd.

LaughingCat · 02/12/2023 21:32

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 02/12/2023 21:26

It’s a gland, so it produces some kind of hormone (I’m assuming prostatin). Re the hymen - by the way, did anyone else do the Cambridge Latin Course and have to read out the apparently famous wedding song of Ancient Rome “Hymen, hymen, hymen-o, hymen, hymen-eee”? I’m afraid I’m very immature and absolutely corpsed just thinking of that again.

Thank you! I was just googling it - apparently produces seminal fluid and looks rather more like a fig than a walnut. I have relearned something new (presume I learned this during the anatomy sections of my Biomed course but that seems to have long flittered away).

We did CLC, with Caecilius and Metella, and Quintus (who my Latin teacher used to call Super-Q 😂). That wedding song still SLAYS me 🤭

Liveanlearn · 02/12/2023 21:32

So lovely that it did occur to you that it would be needed by them. I think you should be commended for that and I'm sure they were grateful for years afterwards! Sad for you, and other men and girls/women generally that so many people haven't ever been taught properly. I think sex/reproductive education is now taught universally so males and females all get to hear about it all but I suspect what is taught varies hugely.

Calliopespa · 02/12/2023 21:33

FreshFromTheSinBin · 02/12/2023 21:11

@Calliopespa

Where my thoughts would go next are: we are all now bombarded with completely unrealistic and unrealisable images of 'womanhood'. These images involve being airbrushed and filtered and posed and made up and ... blah-di-blah.

Young women who buy into this stuff might well think it's completely normal to be a caricature of a woman. None of these idealised images (or idealised by contemporary beauty mores) ever suggests that women pee or poo or have periods or, basically, do anything other than exist to be objectified.

Young men looking at these images aren't going to be seeing young women as real, fertile people with normal bodily functions. They're going to see them as fuck fodder. Periods don't figure in that landscape, because (it seems as if) girls are there purely to stick their tits and arses out, which obviously means they're human pneumatic dolls.

I think it's all deeply sad. I am very glad not to have grown up with this, and to have instead navigated the slightly odd but very human world of real people.

Yes I agree.

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 02/12/2023 21:34

Also continuing re the prostate, it is like a walnut or large bean. It appears to produce whatever secretion it produces, get cancer in old age and, um, possibly produce some pleasurable feelings during certain adult activities.

Cloudisi · 02/12/2023 21:38

To the point that it would fall out while I'm on the loo.

That's what used to happen to me if I had a few wees without changing a tampon.

stepintochristmas1 · 02/12/2023 21:39

That's a good point I don't remember being taught anything about the prostate gland at school (early eighties) . Wonder why 🤔. I mean it important in the production of sperm .

Devonshiregal · 02/12/2023 21:40

modgepodge · 02/12/2023 18:04

I’m not that surprised. I am a primary teacher who has to cover periods in PSHE and I always make it explicitly clear that it’s not like a wee that you choose when to do it, it just happens constantly for a few days. I do only teach girls though so I’m not helping the next generation of men unfortunately!

Yeah my school told us it was like wearing. Imagine my confusion when I got my period. Don’t blame men really, why would they know if no one educated them?

AppleCrispMacchiato · 02/12/2023 21:40

katseyes7 · 02/12/2023 21:12

One of my friends (who is now in her late 50s) told me that when they were at uni, one of her friends asked, in all seriousness, when a group of them were discussing periods, "But have any of you actually seen 'the egg'" (meaning the one that wasn't fertilised, hence the period) - "because l never have...."
Apparently 'stunned silence' didn't begin to describe it.

This is really embarrassing, but when I was younger I used to often have a big clot that would come out quite round in shape, I never had more than one per period, and I assumed for the longest time that actually was the egg.

Calliopespa · 02/12/2023 21:41

Fitrix29 · 02/12/2023 21:29

So let me get this straight, you managed to conceive DC without your husband seeing your genitals? I mean that in itself is a bit odd.

I think it’s probably not unheard of. Plenty of people have sex with the lights off so unless he got out a torch 🔦… It might have just never happened in the daytime … jobs etc.

AmazingSnakeHead · 02/12/2023 21:48

Finishingoff · 02/12/2023 20:10

How old are you???

Shockingly - I am only in my early 30s! This was a school in a european country, I really hope that things have changed in the last 20 years.

Cloudisi · 02/12/2023 21:48

but the tampon is at least a finger length up inside... Urine shouldn't be able to get that

Mine definitely don't sit that far up. I put the applicator in to the base and push it in, but it's certainly not an entire fingers length inside at the bottom. The string also soaks up wee and it's attached to the tampon

Calliopespa · 02/12/2023 21:49

ThomasinaLivesHere · 02/12/2023 20:52

I’m not sure if you’re being serious but people can hold in farts. Obviously you need to eventually fart like you need to eventually urinate but you can hold it in until a later time.

I think fart suppression falls into two categories. The hold it in for later technique and the silent release method. You have to judge which to go for on a fart by fart basis. But both are quite possible and, I should have thought, far more often employed than the unhindered release approach.

Cloudisi · 02/12/2023 21:51

Ive actually just tried it, put the cardboard applicator in to the base of it, pushed it in. Tested with a finger, I can touch the base of the tampon by the first knuckle on the finger tip.

RedHelenB · 02/12/2023 21:53

Sunbird24 · 02/12/2023 20:51

That’s about the right number if you’re presuming she had a 7 day period and changed tampons roughly every hour and a half!

But surely better to take too many? It's not massively more than you'd need. There s loads of posts on mn about women with heavy periods, some last more than a week.

JudgeJ · 02/12/2023 21:57

Santaiswashinghissleigh · 02/12/2023 21:02

Lights off. Under the covers..
I know a woman who hit 25 and had 2 dc but had never seen a penis...

The husband of my mother's cousin told my father that he had never seen his wife naked and they were married over 40 years! They were all born in the 1900s but even so it seemed bizarre.

LadyMacbethWasMisunderstood · 02/12/2023 21:57

@WanderingWitches you should not have questioned “the grandmother” who said it’s not possible to pee with a tampon in. Some of us can’t. It’s not that unusual. Just part of the myriad ways women are different.

WanderingWitches · 02/12/2023 21:59

LadyMacbethWasMisunderstood · 02/12/2023 21:57

@WanderingWitches you should not have questioned “the grandmother” who said it’s not possible to pee with a tampon in. Some of us can’t. It’s not that unusual. Just part of the myriad ways women are different.

That is not what she said...
She said you have two holes and she has to take out the tampon or it would fill up with wee.
It was on a post very similar to this one on twitter.

thenightsky · 02/12/2023 22:00

Santaiswashinghissleigh · 02/12/2023 21:02

Lights off. Under the covers..
I know a woman who hit 25 and had 2 dc but had never seen a penis...

I remember working with an Egyptian female doctor who told me that she never realised men had balls that hung down behind their penises until the day she married. She had been a Dr 5 years already at the point. It did make me wonder about Egyptian medical schools...

Calliopespa · 02/12/2023 22:00

TomatoSandwiches · 02/12/2023 20:53

@NannyGythaOgg
" Suddenly one day, I just farted. "

I will write a book one day and it will start with this sentence. 😂

If @NannyGythaOgg is correct, that book could be your autobiography. I knew about urinary incontinence so I’m not sure why the news of fart incontinence has come as such a blindside but it has really disturbed me. I guess because you can get those incontinence pants but not a fart muffler.

Onionsmadeofglass · 02/12/2023 22:01

Mistymist · 02/12/2023 18:06

I had an university colleague who thought women peed through the vagina, probably thinking that our anatomy is similar to men's.

My 4 year old son has a better grasp of anatomy than this. Thanks to normal preschooler questions and a kid’s book on the human body. Scary that there are grown men who haven’t got it straight yet.

Finishingoff · 02/12/2023 22:02

AmazingSnakeHead · 02/12/2023 21:48

Shockingly - I am only in my early 30s! This was a school in a european country, I really hope that things have changed in the last 20 years.

My mind has been truly blown at this!!

MoreEqualPig · 02/12/2023 22:04

When I was about 12 I had really bad cystitis and was peeing blood. I told my mum who said it was my first period. When I said it couldn't be, because the blood was coming from where I pee she told me that's where blood comes from for your period.
I was really confused for the next few years although now I realise she probably didn't know. She went to a convent school in 1960s Ireland and would not have had any sex education.

Sunbird24 · 02/12/2023 22:04

RedHelenB · 02/12/2023 21:53

But surely better to take too many? It's not massively more than you'd need. There s loads of posts on mn about women with heavy periods, some last more than a week.

Sally Ride helpfully told them they could cut that number in half with no issues. They still gave them to her with all the strings tied together so that they didn’t float about.
These days most female astronauts take measures to just not have periods while they’re in space, cos why wouldn’t you? 🤷🏻‍♀️