Do you believe in Mediums?

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Some years ago I went (very sceptically) with a friend to see a well renowned Medium. I had waited almost 2 years to see her. I booked the appointment via telephone on a withheld number. I Gave only my first name which isn't unusual and no other information.
As I say, I was a very sceptical and pretty much a non- beleiver, but just went along with a friend to see what it was all about and a giggle. I had previously lost my husband quite young in a very unusual way. The woman seemed to know a lot about this and even specified that it was abroad, an accident and he was surrounded by water, which he was 🤯 she then went on to say he was with her and was trying to tell her a nickname he used to call me so that I would believe he was there. I was completely confused as I couldn't remember any nicknames that he had for me (non to my knowledge). So this is where I had her, or so I thought! I said no, there has never been a nickname. He never called me anything other than my Christian name. She then said she would give me the first letter of the nickname. I just looked at her blankly and said no. She then shot out the nickname and I was completely and utterly blindsided. It was a ridiculous name. I won't say it on here because it's embarrassing and silly 🤣 but it's something in humour that he used to call me when it was just the two of us (and very unusual/not guessable for her AT ALL). I had totally and utterly forgotten about it. So how could she have known this if even I had forgotten and absolutely nobody else knew? I've never to this day been able to understand how she could know. She also went on to say several other things were that were outstandingly accurate and things that nobody else could possibly have known, for example I was in the middle of a private dental claim which she said was legal (I was) and that I would receive a substantial payout very soon (I did). She told my friend she was pregnant (she was, 6 weeks, but had told nobody bar her DH) This one visit to this Medium changed my entire belief system regarding mediums and the spirit world which I never thought would be possible. Has anyone else had similar experiences?

@LylaLee

being inuitive a Primeval surival instinct helped to protect us humans since ancient times to protect us from Sabre tiger ect,

Learando de Vinch ability to draw a protype helicopter at time in history when helicopters didn't exist,

how was he drawing " seeing" an object he would never physically encounter in his life ever or anything similar to this,

there's different types of being inuitive , just like there are various different types of other physical things objects ect,

Ok that's obviously true that ancient tribes, cultures by trial and error they discovered knowledge of medicinal , edible plants ,

but why didn't ancient tribes just assume if one plant or several plants are toxic in varying degrees/ dangerous to them,

why didn't they therefore make the logical assumption that all plants have the same toxic harmful properties?

as if one particular plant or mushroom 🍄 or several of them, can be toxic in varying degrees,

why not automatically make the assumption that everything that is plant life and mushrooms should therefore be the same then?

Why were they not scared fearful of venturing exploring for other plant life and mushrooms,
when the one or several plants they touched or eat was harmful or was so toxic poisonous that it killed one or a few of them then?

How do be people when they are asleep know when someone is near them ?
they automatically wake up,

when they didn't hear the door open or the door was open allready

and it's not allways the case you can hear footsteps
sometimes you can obviously hear footsteps
but its not allways the case,

If there was a time machine could take us back in any given historical date time in history we wanted to go to?

and you said to them people,
that one day you can fly and you can use a device called Mobile tel,
you can go on escalators,

you can go into submarine and fight wars doing this for your country
anything to do with modern world they would see that as being a sign that you are mad or weird or into witchcraft if you showed them these kinds of images on your modern devices etc,

If you ventured into far flung place in the world with tribes who don't or have very little to do with modern life,

anything modern they would percieve with wonder, think it was mysterious, or with suspicious as magic witchcraft or devil's work,

there's a well known scientist who discovered the periodic table to do with chemicals,
he just knew there was just one missing periodic element that was missing from the periodic table but he couldn't figure the name of particular chemical or metal element of this,

There's books and a film based on his life too

He was correct about this ,

later on someone else a scientist discovered the one missing element

How do dogs or pigs know where expensive truffles exist in certain places in the world?

How can dogs detect cancer in humans ?

How can the animal kingdom know when potential danger is about ?

How can elephants and other animals, birds , salmon, fish know where to go to miles and miles to breed or to look for water and food etc over vast oceans areas of land.?

and humans used to think birds and animals were stupid ,
they are not,
they are intelligent, sentient far more some humans can amagine,

A helicopter flies because of physics. Anyone who understands this can draw one. They don't need a time machine. The same with medicine. It's the scientific method.

There are two ways of looking at the world. One is that we are in a logical world, but we don't understand all the rules.

The other is that we are in a magical world.

One gets us science. The other gets people defrauded.

I know this will sound weird, but this is a great read about the scientific method. It's fanfiction, and marmite, but if you do like it, it's an interesting introduction to a lot of scientific thinking.

hpmor.com/chapter/1

@cerisepanther73 "anything modern they would percieve with wonder, think it was mysterious, or with suspicious as magic witchcraft or devil's work,"

Of course. But they'd be wrong!

@cerisepanther73, you seem very confused. Leonardo da Vinci was a brilliant polymath who was fascinated by the physics and mechanics of flight and drew plans and built models of an ‘aerial screw’ that visually resembles a modern helicopter, but which couldn’t have functioned large scale because of the lack of lightweight materials and because the ‘body’ would have rotated in the opposite direction to the ‘vanes”.

He didn’t ’intuit’ it, or any of his other inventions, he built on and transposed things that already existed in some form (there were water pumps from ancient times that use the same basis for irrigation) and/or from his detailed observation of birds and human bodies.

If you’re thinking of Dimitri Mendeleev, who was the one to come up with the periodic table in the 19thc, he didn’t ‘intuit’ the missing elements, he used the periodic law (a scientific principle, not a guess) to state some things that were knowable about the elements he knew were missing.

These are all matters of scientific observation, knowledge and discovery, people building on previous research.

With medicinal herbs, this was trial and error. Like medicine. Modern medicine is still getting things wrong at times, with severe consequences. Thalidomide is still used for some cancers and types of TB, but it caused serious birth defects when it was given as a morning sickness remedy to pregnant women. Different societies will have used different plants available to them, and made their own observations about their uses and effects — whether they cured a headache or made you see visions.

I believe they can genuinely interpret energy from people but I don’t think it proves there is an afterlife when they appear to communicate with ghosts

@CurlewKate

Yes i know that he used his scientific knowledge as i called him a scientist

I was describing the one missing element of periodic table

there's scientific knowledge which is well know about and respected

I just think inuitive awareness is useful and beneficial aswell in different way,

Just as scientific knowledge , discoveries have been to society's an world..

2) People underestimate the power of technology in modern times. You get someone trained in cold reading PLUS they are aided by tech.

I used to listen to Iain Lee on LBC late at night years ago
He had an a email from a so called psychic who claimed to have a dream about him and described his house perfectly. Iain Lee was dumbfounded how he knew so much info and called him. Now Iain had said he was selling some items on ebay, one quite obscure. I quickly searched ebay and found his selling page and there were photos of the items he was selling which including all the description this psychic was making ie building works etc
Quickly emailed the show and he was really upset that someone had tried to trick him.
It does show how much information that you put out there without actually realising.

I am glad i have the ability to know about and learn about the benefit of scientific knowledge ect,

I am also glad i have got very strong inuitive abilities aswell,
that i listen to now,

that i regret, i didn't listen to much more often years ago,
that could have protected me from potentially dangerous situations and toxic people,

inuitive awareness is a Primeval surival instinct to protect us from potential predators and dangerous situations

Inuitive awareness is a nuanced.

gut reactions , spiderey feelings

sometimes the stomach is called the second brain 🧠 too.

There's different kinds of intelligence, not just analytical intelligence, that's commonly thought of in our society,
there's emotional intelligence, there's creatively intelligence, there's maths and scientific intelligence,
there's medicinal plant knowledge
Animals intelligence,

I am glad i have the ability to be able to know about that and understand all those things too,
I see it as an advantage in life that i understand and respect that,

@Draoicht No aggression, just perceived! Or confused even...

@cerisepanther73 "I was describing the one missing element of periodic table"

But there was nothing instinctive or intuitive about that. In order for the sequence of the periodic table to work, there had to be another element. Just straight scientific fact.

A few people have mentioned why more psychics don't solve murders so thought I'd post this as coincidentally watched it yesterday and it's about that very scenario. Personally I'm on the fence about it all I'm just a big fan of Mr Ballen 😁

I don't have a problem with psychics. But if I see one smiling too much, I smack them right around the chops.

I like to strike a happy medium.

@CurlewKate

Yes obviously scientific facts , knowledge aswell about missing elements to periodic table,
that's why he was called a scientist after all, but he had the " awareness" too to realise that there was also missing element,
connected to the periodic table,

that's OK, fine by me that you have a difference of opinion to me,

like i said before i appreciate respect science knowledge,
but i have also got the abilities to realise not everything in life fits in black and white straightforward convient box which,
fits into societies ideas of this is what you have to be like or think like
cause societies is right about everything attitude,

Some things can be more complex or not allway black and white straightforward thinking

in life there is something called grey areas, nunances

I realise knowledge is work in progress

such as for instance water is good for you ,

but if someone exceeds the recommending amounts of water on a regular basis, it can tip the balance the body's equilibrium that it can have detrimental affect,

The sun is good for us , obviously sustains life we can not survive exist whithout the sun it gives us vitamin D which helps benefits of bones strength ect

but if we expose our skin to far too much sun whithout protection it can give us skin cancer which can kill us.

This is what i mean about not everything fits in a straightforward black and white thinking,

Water and sun are essential to our existence, survival, good for us
but in rare cases in regards of water,
sun rays strength can also give us skin cancer kill us too

@WhenLoveIsDone

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Appreciate I may be in the minority here, but I while I know it can't be actual psychic ability, I don't know how this one could be. My best mate went to get a reading about 6 months after my dad passed and he 'came through' to her. She was part of our household in our younger years, my dad was really fond of her. She mentioned his accent, where my brother lived, how he died, details of their second home being sold and that he left specific watches for my husband and brothers. All of it was accurate, and my best mate didn't even know some of the things that were mentioned.

My friend is an internet ghost, I just don't know how to explain that!

my friend is an internet ghost

Maybe that's why there was no reading for HER.

Googling her would have brought up YOU. There's probably plenty about the watches, house sale, things from his memorial pages etc.

You seem to be confusing scientific research and basic principles of the natural world with some kind of 'woo'.

Knowing that sunlight both generates Vitamin D BUT causes skin damage and that water is needed for life but drunk in excess can cause serious problems with loss of key salts, brain swelling etc. There is no 'nuance' or 'grey area' here.

And none of what you have said in your lengthy, rather confused posts about Leonardo da Vinci and the periodic table gives any basis whatsoever for 'psychics' trademark combination of cold-reading, basic internet research and Barnum statements.

My sister recently went to a session in a hotel ballroom with some 'psychic' with quite a following -- you paid more for 'platinum' seats near the stage, and these appeared to have been bought by this man's fans, who showed up at many of his shows, and of course were quite well known to him. Unsurprisingly, they got most of the 'least vague' messages. My sister also noticed that there were 'assistants' circulating in the area outside before people entered and took their seats. To take tickets, sure, but not exactly difficult for them to say 'woman in the pink coat in the gold seats is talking about buying a wedding outfit/someone in hospital for surgery etc'

I wasn't looking for someone to take to an event. I was going to an event. All sorted. Alone. Yes, I was open to a relationship but the man I met was already going to the event. We both had our tickets. And it wasn't a local thing. It involved considerable travel. And the house walls....no I didn't view the house at all. I was away and my partner did the looking. And it was pre digital camera days. I didn't see any of it until the day I moved in. I knew the layout of the house as a friend lived up the road. That was it.
And no, I'm not gullible. Like I said the sensible bit of me thinks it's rubbish and the co-incidences are probably just that but they "predictions" were very specific, and I think difficult to guess, seeing as some of them took many years to come true.

@HolySkirts

It's pointless explaining to someone who is skeptical waste of time

I've got better things to do...

But if you make the same prediction to a lot of people it's going to come true.

If I said on this thread 'someone is going to live in a house with red walls' at some point in their lives, it will be true.

And there's immense pressure not to attend events alone. Some people can't even go to a restaurant or movie alone. Let alone an event where they would be judged for not having a date. Even if you weren't 'actively looking' the fact that such an event was on the horizon would make you infinitely more open to accepting even vague 'advances' and anyone with a basic understanding of human psychology would know that.

Mediums? No. Psychics? In the extremely intuitive sense, perhaps - and I only say this because my Nana's best mate won the lottery 3 times over (I think it was around a million each time, not the huge 10+ million ones) and casually predicted a bunch of catastrophic events worldwide, predicted random sudden deaths of people she knew, knows about pregnancies, illnesses, just fucking all sorts really. She's really bloody blasé about it too! Like "meh, I just knew, I could just tell that was going to happen"...
She's never claimed she can speak to the deceased, though, and she's never charged anyone for her information, she just usually lays it on people over a coffee. (Well, you wouldn't really need to charge people if you could predict the lottery, I suppose! )

Other than her, I've never met anyone at all that I actually believed had paranormal abilities, and I've been to several mediums/psychics with friends for the craic.

If there were such a thing as mediums then the way you'd tell a genuine one would be that they'd have won the lottery three times.

casually predicted a bunch of catastrophic events worldwide, predicted random sudden deaths of people she knew, knows about pregnancies, illnesses, just fucking all sorts really. She's really bloody blasé about it too! Like "meh, I just knew, I could just tell that was going to happen"...

But did she tell you in advance of these major international catastrophes?

@GreenIsMyFavoriteColour To be fair, I put that down to pure luck/coincidence, because if I was psychic and was going to predict the lottery numbers, I'd have aimed for the huge sums that would enable me to never have to work again.

@HolySkirts yeah! It was never "this exact thing is going to happen in such a place at this exact time", it was more "oooh, I've got a funny feeling about such a place, keep your eye on the news" and low and behold, something unpredictable (to the average person, anyway) would go down in that particular place soon after.

Honestly, absolutely bonkers. It has to just be a combination of exceptional intuition, coincidence and being weirdly up to date with the news/weather/politics perhaps, as I can't bring myself to believe in full on woo, but if anyone was to prove me wrong, it would be her.