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To wonder if we are all equal in Heaven

112 replies

Guesswho88 · 29/11/2023 21:15

I was thinking about those that have never found love or who have loved and lost. And those that have lost a spouse who has passed away but have gone on to remarry - what happens when the person who has remarried dies and is reunited with former spouse? And then the other spouse dies as well. How does it go down?

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Guesswho88 · 29/11/2023 21:31

dodobookends · 29/11/2023 21:30

Er - I think the pp was referring to Jesus!

Yeah....I know! They were saying that no-one else had come back...........

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Lifesd · 29/11/2023 21:31

In Green mythology there are different levels of the afterlife so I could believe in some kind of different levels

Lifesd · 29/11/2023 21:31

Greek! Not green

Makingthemostof · 29/11/2023 21:32

Blazingunicorns · 29/11/2023 21:20

You go back to being a soul and all human aspects of ourselves fall away. So the dynamics of marriage (which is a man made construct) are irrelevant.

This.

Testina · 29/11/2023 21:32

Guesswho88 · 29/11/2023 21:25

I know right? Too much for some people 😋

It’s just that if you believe in NDE’s doesn’t it cancel your belief in heaven - cos none of the NDE’s have any info.

theduchessofspork · 29/11/2023 21:33

Well nothing I shouldn’t think, there’s no reason to think heaven exists.

But in the unlikely event our energy continues into some other life, I don’t think it’s likely we’d be recognisably Mrs Jones from no. 6.

Fannyfiggs · 29/11/2023 21:33

I believe that when we die we go back to our original state of a being that's energy and love. We are all equal and the state we are in is heaven rather than heaven being an actual place.

I appreciate that we'll never know until it happens but that's what keeps me going 😊

Guesswho88 · 29/11/2023 21:34

Testina · 29/11/2023 21:32

It’s just that if you believe in NDE’s doesn’t it cancel your belief in heaven - cos none of the NDE’s have any info.

Wait, whaaaat?? There are literally testimonies all over the internet, books etc.. of people dying for a few minutes and going to what they consider heaven.

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Potatopies · 29/11/2023 21:34

Nobody can answer this question for you.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 29/11/2023 21:35

what happens when the person who has remarried dies and is reunited with former spouse? And then the other spouse dies as well. How does it go down?

I asked this in a similar thread a few months back and did not receive a satisfactory answer. I have therefore concluded that if heaven exists, then it probably operates like some sort of big all-in sex cult, but probably open-plan rather than in a gated compound with barbed wire and guard dogs and stuff.

ThinWomansBrain · 29/11/2023 21:36

AIBU for presuming that everyone belongs to the same cult as you

Nomnomnom66 · 29/11/2023 21:37

We are star dust. We go back into the void.

Guesswho88 · 29/11/2023 21:37

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 29/11/2023 21:35

what happens when the person who has remarried dies and is reunited with former spouse? And then the other spouse dies as well. How does it go down?

I asked this in a similar thread a few months back and did not receive a satisfactory answer. I have therefore concluded that if heaven exists, then it probably operates like some sort of big all-in sex cult, but probably open-plan rather than in a gated compound with barbed wire and guard dogs and stuff.

Love it😂well actually I don't but love your sense of humour.

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sixteenfurryfeet · 29/11/2023 21:37

Guesswho88 · 29/11/2023 21:31

Yeah....I know! They were saying that no-one else had come back...........

Yeah....I know! Nobody has ever come back. All the ones who have had near-death experiences have had just that. They survived. In case you are wondering, my dad had one, and he told me what happened.

slugseverywhere · 29/11/2023 21:38

OurfriendsintheNE · 29/11/2023 21:17

Nothing happens. They’re dead

Yep, this

@Dita73

Good job you're both going to hell 😆

GodDammitCecil · 29/11/2023 21:38

Guesswho88 · 29/11/2023 21:16

Wow 😴thanks for commenting..

Well, what answers are you looking for?

In heaven, everyone just gets on. There’s no jealousy, envy, insecurity. People are nice, not flawed.

Or ….. no-one knows, and we’re all just making up shit for you, so you’re none the wiser.

Guesswho88 · 29/11/2023 21:40

sixteenfurryfeet · 29/11/2023 21:37

Yeah....I know! Nobody has ever come back. All the ones who have had near-death experiences have had just that. They survived. In case you are wondering, my dad had one, and he told me what happened.

But they still died and came back. What did your dad say? Understandable if you would rather not say. I understand it's very personal.

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JanglyBeads · 29/11/2023 21:40

From the Gospel of Luke in the Bible - exactly this question was put to Jesus:

To wonder if we are all equal in Heaven
To wonder if we are all equal in Heaven
UnctuousUnicorns · 29/11/2023 21:40

Lavender14 · 29/11/2023 21:16

I think heaven would kind of be beyond earthly dynamics and feelings etc.

Yes, I believe there is no such thing as romantic love in the afterlife, that's just a mortal human concept.

Dita73 · 29/11/2023 21:41

Ask Father Christmas and the tooth fairy

TitInATrance · 29/11/2023 21:41

Matthew 22:20 - there will be no marriage at the resurrection, all will be like angels in heaven (I guess above that sort of thing).

Edit - janglybeads got there first! X-post.

Guesswho88 · 29/11/2023 21:41

GodDammitCecil · 29/11/2023 21:38

Well, what answers are you looking for?

In heaven, everyone just gets on. There’s no jealousy, envy, insecurity. People are nice, not flawed.

Or ….. no-one knows, and we’re all just making up shit for you, so you’re none the wiser.

More than four words.

Presumably it's not like Mumsnet then.

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GodDammitCecil · 29/11/2023 21:42

Guesswho88 · 29/11/2023 21:41

More than four words.

Presumably it's not like Mumsnet then.

It’s the very antithesis of Mumsnet.

GodDammitCecil · 29/11/2023 21:42

Which means it’s probably not much craic….

GodDammitCecil · 29/11/2023 21:44

Do you really want to go to heaven, anyway?

I’m reminded of the words of Elizabeth Taylor…

The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can be pretty sure they're going to have some pretty annoying virtues.

Imagine that for all eternity……………