M and S charging for carriers

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AIBU to find it cheeky of m&s to charge 10p for a paper carrier bag when I've just spent £50 on a dress? Especially as I got caught in the rain and it disintegrated.
I can understand why you would charge for a plastic bag, but this is ridiculous.

How much of a difference does it make compared to the emissions out out of India, China, the US? Unless they change I can't see that taking a reusable bag to M&S is making a difference. I don't get why people aren't more annoyed at being charged for a bay when countries can literally do as the please.

Well off topic, but most men I see around me (London) do have a bag of some sort - a backpack or a man-bag or a messenger - because they also have a phone, charger, water bottle, reusable shopping bag, umbrella, etc to carry.

Hey @Mademetoxic do you pick up other people's dog shit for them too?

I bet people would remember to take a bag if stores started charging a fiver for one.

Litter and dog shit are 2 different things. There is a difference picking up a plastic bottle and putting it in the recycling bin to someone else's dog poo.
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I wish they would.

Again, every little helps as I've just said to you in a previous post.

Where does it end? Will shops start charging us a couple of quid just to enter to cover the cost of the heating?

No, I’d just be a lot poorer. Or not eat.

Most people don’t deliberately decide not to take bags shopping.

As mentioned before, paper is very damaging to the environment. Plastic is also terrible for the environment. I have a few cloth bags, you can wash them and they look so much nicer. For a big food shop I have the Aldi bags for life. Anything else I use my cloth bags. If you leave some in your car, you always have them.

It's not a rip off, it is an incentive. It's a simple concept and really makes a big difference to the environment. Sadly humans are selfish and lazy and don't care the planet is basically dying.

I agree about the ridiculous amounts of packaging on foods, only way to sort that is to tax the supermarkets. Any fruit, veg etc should be in compostable bags or sold loose.

I would like to see a super tax on imported clothing, it's disgraceful how cheap clothes are, that are just going to landfill. British clothes should be exempt from tax.

NI, Wales and Scotland have charged by law for 10 plus years.

Government and retailers don't want you to bring your own bags. It's a lucrative passive income for them. First 20% goes to the government as VAT. Retailers can deduct various expenses perfectly legally. Around 1p in every 5p gets donated to 'good causes'.

Tesco donated £30 million last year alone.

It's not about emissions. It's about LITTER.

People have very short memories if they can't remember how much litter was caused by single use bags.

It is about emissions, every item of cheap clothing is shipped across the world in a plastic bag. Every tube of toothpaste in an unnecessary box, cucumbers wrapped in plastic, tomatoes in plastic boxes.

The emissions from the factory (china pumps out a horrifying amount) the oil burned to ship goods. Polluting the planet because we are lazy and don't want to reuse bags, or not have the convenience of grabbing 3 plastic wrapped peppers. Honestly if you come home from a bag food shop, how much goes straight in the bin?

Yes I pick up litter in my immediate area

But bollocks to it being my job to make the nation litter free.

Bloody Tories have cut everything back so much, that's why it looks crap.

Nope. Keys & phone. i don't take a purse/handbag anywhere since Applepay was a thing and have never carried water out and about.

i also don't ever wear a coat except at the stables so i don't generally have a pocket i would put anything in

i take bags food shopping as they are in my car, i go from car to shop back to car so i don't have to carry them around.

I've never heard someone say about picking up litter is entitled.
What is the world coming to when people refuse to make the world look slightly better.

If everyone had your attitude then the local areas would look horrendous.

It is a 2 min job with a litter picker. No excuses.

Every little helps.

Do you not think that the people who wantonly fling their rubbish on to the street might just be the ones to blame - rather than the people who do know how to find a bin for their own waste or take it home with them?

Why are you shaming people who neither drop their own nor want to pick up other people's litter, whilst apparently accepting as a given the truly selfish, entitled people who actually choose to drop it in the first place? Nobody could possibly pick up my litter, even if they desperately wanted to, because, like the majority of people who have a little respect for others, I don't drop any.

No, I’d just be a lot poorer. Or not eat.
Most people don’t deliberately decide not to take bags shopping.

You don't forget your wallet or keys. Because you know there are consequences.

If bags costed more, you'd remember.

People have very short memories if they can't remember how much litter was caused by single use bags.

We spend a lot more on bin bags now than we used to. Not too sure how that makes a huge difference.

Likewise the outcry about single-use plastic bottles that end up in the oceans: any that I use get put in the recycling bin and put out for the council, so if they can't manage to keep the collected waste safely contained until it gets to the processing plant, I don't really see how that's somehow my fault.

I've stopped using bin bags 😁 I don't put any food waste in my bin, so everything is dry. I just put in in the house bin , then tip it into the wheel bin. it gets tipped by the bin men just the same. To be honest not a lot goes in the landfill bin anymore.

They didn't say you were entitled to pick up litter, they said you are being entitled to demand other people do it just because you yourself choose to do it.

I pick up litter myself. But I don't think other people have to do it.

Your posts have been rather sanctimonious. Lots of people don't have time. They're not to blame for any mess. The people primarily to blame are the government who have cut council budgets so much the streets are a mess. The majority of litter comes from bins, not from being dropped deliberately. That's why councils used to empty them regularly and sweep up.

Tory councillors often blame people for not litter picking - they can get knotted. Restore council budgets.

Those who do actively drop litter are wrong, of course, but the real issue is lack of street cleaning these days.

Actually a bag for life fills the whole handbag up unless you're carrying a massive tote bag everywhere 🙄

And while we're on the subject of hypocrisy, why is it somehow OK for me- a public transportation user- to be charged over the odds for a bag but dog owners are free to buy endless wasteful plastic bags, bag up poo and put those into landfill (in the-best case scenario)? Why aren't they forced to use biodegradable bags?

So you get the wee drawstring ones like the one I posted a pic upthread. Nobody has to carry around bulky bags for life in their bag/pocket.

Honestly, some people are just deliberately difficult.

My local M&S have started doing paper bags it's a joke given its a lot of elderly shop there and it might rain. I don't mind 10p but they charge 30p, definitely not 10p where I live. They have got some other bags for life for 60p nice print but you can't get much in.

I don't always carry bags if I nip in after work! I expect a decent bag to put my shopping in.

Thought that was just plastic

I do forget my wallet. I have forgotten my car keys on numerous occasions.

Costing more would make no difference to my ability to remember. ADHD doesn’t work like that, sadly.