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To not replace car seat after hitting a pheasant at 38 mph?

145 replies

Hhhapp17 · 24/11/2023 11:34

Guidance says any accident above 20mph means you must replace the car seat. Is it this same in this situation? Don’t really want to pay out again for another one.

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DonnaBanana · 24/11/2023 18:38

These rules do get a bit silly after a while. You’re meant to replace a car seat if you accidentally go over a speed bump at more than 30mph as well, or if you skid on ice in winter.

ThePineapplePrincess · 24/11/2023 18:53

Circularargument · 24/11/2023 17:56

How? A pheasant weighs a few pounds. The car will scarcely have slowed. Don't be silly.

Edited

I wasn’t talking about this particular incident in that comment.

I was answering that posters general question of why we replace car seats after accidents.

JudgeJ · 24/11/2023 18:55

YoullCatchYourDeathInTheFog · 24/11/2023 15:33

Delicious.

I would have thought it's too early to tell, maybe a NYE dinner

Suchapain · 24/11/2023 19:03

user1477391263 · 24/11/2023 12:44

Did anyone else open this thread expecting some utterly grim story about bits of dismembered pheasant somehow ending up all over the car seat?

Yes, I did. I thought "It's not been the weather for driving with the roof down lately..."

BertieBotts · 24/11/2023 23:18

Janinejones · 24/11/2023 17:02

Sorry @ThePineapplePrincess that phrase "integrity of the seat is compromised, making it less safe for future journeys." sounds like a marketing ploy. I suspect manufacture's b/s.
The bolts that I have seen look very large and over engineered, The straps over the child would hold the car up. Is there distortion of the plastic body or any sign the straps are likely to pull out?
Difficult to image any extreme loads in a situation where the occupants survive.

They are single use items in terms of crash protection. When you see car seats after a crash test sometimes they're damaged (plastic stress, cracking, bent parts) even though they have protected the crash test dummy well. A lot of modern car seats also have stuff like EPS foam which will compress to hopefully absorb some of the force away from the child, then it's useless if it's already been compressed. I think this probably only happens if there's a child in the seat, but the advice to replace applies whether it was occupied or not. I guess because depending on the severity of the accident, the seat will get jerked around and potentially impact off the side door etc.

It's a precaution rather than a definitely studied thing, but for sure if you've been in a big impact (ie, hit something human sized or larger at speed, anything causing more than superficial damage to the car) it is usually trivial to replace seats since insurance covers it, and the thinking is better safe than sorry.

It's the same thing with bike helmets - you wouldn't have a nasty crash and then keep using the helmet. Buy a new one.

And seatbelts - they stretch and warp if they have been in use at the time of a serious collision, and if the car is not written off they may need to be replaced, even if the occupant was not seriously injured.

(Pheasant probably doesn't require replacement of the seat.)

BertieBotts · 24/11/2023 23:19

DonnaBanana · 24/11/2023 18:38

These rules do get a bit silly after a while. You’re meant to replace a car seat if you accidentally go over a speed bump at more than 30mph as well, or if you skid on ice in winter.

According to whom? Don't mistake facebook groups going on a spiral of competitive caution for good evidenced advice.

user1473878824 · 24/11/2023 23:37

ThePineapplePrincess · 24/11/2023 11:38

YABU. Of course you need to replace it Confused

I don’t think it was a bollard in the shape of a pheasant.

Catsmere · 25/11/2023 01:21

Lizzt2007 · 24/11/2023 12:17

Sorry but this actually made me laugh out loud, all I can see In my head now is a woman swinging a car seat at a pheasant 😂😂

Or at a peasant - even better!

Especially if it was Dennis from The Holy Grail.

TheHawkisHowling · 25/11/2023 01:23

I wouldn't replace it. I've hit a big grouse before, faster than that. We barely felt it and the car wasn't at all damaged. The only damage was to my conscience.

Nofilteritwonthelp · 25/11/2023 01:37

What's the point of even having a carseat if you don't adhere to the guidance around making sure it's safe. Just replace it and don't be so cheap over something that could save your child's life. Smh. Contact the carseat company to check if you must, don't ask randoms on the internet

Fireblanket · 25/11/2023 01:43

The seat'll be ok, but I guess the pheasant will need replacing.

IcedCoffeeLoverh3 · 25/11/2023 02:27

Honestly, when I first read the title I thought you were a posh person moaning about accidently hitting a poor person with your car 😂😂😂

No I wouldnt replace

LadyLolaRuben · 25/11/2023 02:50

You haven't had a car accident. Your car was hit by a bird.

Jesus wept...

Whiteday · 25/11/2023 07:35

Nofilteritwonthelp · 25/11/2023 01:37

What's the point of even having a carseat if you don't adhere to the guidance around making sure it's safe. Just replace it and don't be so cheap over something that could save your child's life. Smh. Contact the carseat company to check if you must, don't ask randoms on the internet

How on earth do you navigate life?

Whiteday · 25/11/2023 07:50

LadyMacB · 24/11/2023 18:13

It’s got me to thinking, what’s the smallest bird you could hit and have to change the car seat?

Ostrich certainly.

Penguin?

Turkey?

To be safe I think a great tit?

cakeorwine · 25/11/2023 07:58

From a physics point of view, why would the car seat need replacing?
Your speed wouldn't have changed much, unless you instantly braked,
The impact force and the change in momentum wouldn't have been much.

So why would the car seat have been impacted?

Janinejones · 25/11/2023 09:26

@BertieBotts , thank you for your explanation.

ALongHardWinter · 25/11/2023 09:43

I misread the thread title as 'AIBU To not replace car seat after hitting a peasant at 38 mph?'

Catsmere · 25/11/2023 10:48

@ALongHardWinter as did a few of us - did you see the jokes earlier in the thread? 😄

AkitaAtHome · 25/11/2023 20:25

There could be hidden cracks or weakened areas, please replace, used to work in insurance and isn't worth the risk when your kids life depends on car seat working correctly.

Hibiscrubbed · 25/11/2023 20:28

ThePineapplePrincess · 24/11/2023 11:38

YABU. Of course you need to replace it Confused

For hitting a bird?! 😂

cakeorwine · 25/11/2023 21:11

AkitaAtHome · 25/11/2023 20:25

There could be hidden cracks or weakened areas, please replace, used to work in insurance and isn't worth the risk when your kids life depends on car seat working correctly.

Why?

What is the physics of that?
A bird has very little mass. How can that impact a car seat?
Would it affect a human being?

SpringingJoy · 25/11/2023 21:17

it didn’t feel like a big impact

I bet the pheasant would have a different opinion on that front 😬

lochmaree · 25/11/2023 21:24

@ThePineapplePrincess I have 2 kids in ERF seats and wouldn't replace them if I hit a pheasant. (luckily not many around here though I did actually pick up an injured one and put it in the boot of my car a couple of weeks ago! friend took it to the vet to be pts)

cakeorwine · 25/11/2023 21:48

Some guidance

Car Seat Use After a Crash: Replacing Car Seats | NHTSA

I don't even think this was a crash, let alone a minor crash

NHTSA recommends that car seats be replaced following a moderate or severe crash in order to ensure a continued high level of crash protection for child passengers. Car seats do not automatically need to be replaced following a minor crash.
What defines a minor crash?A minor crash is one in which ALL of the following apply:

  • The vehicle was able to be driven away from the crash site.
  • The vehicle door nearest the car seat was not damaged.
  • None of the passengers in the vehicle sustained any injuries in the crash.
  • If the vehicle has air bags, the air bags did not deploy during the crash; and
  • There is no visible damage to the car seat.

Car Seat Use After a Crash | NHTSA

Get information on car seat replacement after a moderate or severe vehicle crash. And find out what to do following a minor crash.

https://www.nhtsa.gov/car-seats-and-booster-seats/car-seat-use-after-crash