Laurence Fox libel trial

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Laurence Fox has been sued for libel by two people he described as paedophiles in a twitter spat. They described LF as racist. Trial began today, suing and counter-suing. Mr Fox arrived with his - written thus (daily mail) in single quotes - 'girlfriend'. Odd description.

If someone said to me that they were worried about my opinion because I was a woman then yes I would definitely interrupt.

Well LF was not doing a Twitter project on nazi symbolism.

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@Myfabby again you are using the fact that he is white as a negative.

He is so badly advised, what a fool. That said, it's hard to see what damage has been suffered in reality, in terms of real loss, by what was said of him and his idiotic response.

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I think the point is he refuses to take (sensible) advice.

Laurence went on to recall how, in the thick of the criticism, he ‘begged’ Richard for help, but the comedian ‘was like what, [support you] on Twitter? It’s not real. It doesn’t exist, it’s mad. Stay away from it all. You know who I am and I know who you are’.

Well, LF used the swastika to compare LGBT rights activists to Nazis. That post was shown right here on this thread and had nothing to do with history. So according to your rules, that was disgusting. Agreed?

Why do you keep misrepresenting the discussion? The woman was picking up on Fox's assertion that Britain is lovely and tolerant and therefore people of colour shouldn't claim their poor treatment here is due to racism. She pointed out that he cannot say whether people here are victims of racism or not because he is a white privil man who does not experience that. This has been explained to you a lot but still you pretend that he was arguing about whether Meghan Markle's treatment was due to her colour or not.

The question was - is there racism in Britain? And who can comment on that? It links to Meghan Markle but it is not what you keep pretending to think it is.

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In the time you've spent writing multiple posts saying, with the online equivalent of wide eyed innocence, that you have no idea of the context he posted it in, you could easily have googled to find out.

It's very strange you haven't done so and have chosen instead to repeatedly say you don't know the context.

I can't imagine doubling down in an online discussion to the point I was claiming that yes there are perfectly acceptable reasons that a celebrity (because you know full well he wasn't working on a project on symbols) may have used a swastika in his Twitter feed.

I'll tell you what I'm implying. There is no complicated backstory to Fox posting the swastika. It's been explained on the thread. It's on Google. You can easily read his explanation of it, and I'm sure you have.

But what you're doing - with this and the QT thing - is pretending not to understand. And the reason you're doing that is because you know that posting a swastika is racist, and you know that it isn't defensible. But you want to claim he isn't racist. So you're trying to keep the fact he posted a swastika out of the discussion. Not because you don't know why he did it. But because you can't defend it.

I expect he was probably using it in a discussion of symmetry.

Oh my. Surely you're not implying we've all been subject to a continuous display of nauseating faux-naivete purporting to be a defense of the indefensible throughout this thread? I expect nothing could be farther from your thoughts.

I've just done a quick research. So he has retweeted a pride flag in the shape of a swastika to support pride. He thought this was ok as the British flag had been posted in the shape of a swastika by lots of people before.
There is some more stuff on it but my understanding is that he has t posted the swastika shape in support of Nazis but to support Gay people as their flag was hijacked by Trans people
All a bit complicated. But the intention. As far as I can see was not racist. But very bad taste.

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@TheOtherSideOfTheStory no I was t pretending not to understand. The first I heard of the Swatika story was on this thread. I couldn't comment on it because I didn't know the back story.

I'm sure he wasn't but I was asked to give an example of when it might be acceptable to tweet this symbol. I gave an example.

He posted the swastika in support of gay people?

Right.

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@TheOtherSideOfTheStory that's what he said.

And what he said was nonsense. Just like him calling that woman on QT racist was nonsense.

His aim is to offend. He succeeded, and now he's paying the price of the reputation he chose to ruin. He wants to blame other people for his own terrible choices. But it's all on him.

If you stuck a needle in him pus would ooze out… he festers and seeks attention. I doubt he’s a happy man.

There is no possible way to post a swastika in support of gay people. Many thousands of gay men were targeted by the nazis, sent to concentration camps, executed etc. The word "support" does not feature in with any possible use of the symbol.

@Myfabby - the law does not often sympathize with someone who is the author of his own misfortune.

Knowing when to say or not say something is a valuable life skill after all.

He posted a swastika to support the lgbtq community?

That should spawn several thousand ‘Sure Jan’ gifs.