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Buyers asking for money post-completion

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Nenanena · 17/11/2023 10:14

I know this is unreasonable really but I am so outraged I just wondered if anyone else had experienced this? A few weeks after completion our buyers had an issue with the heating and have asked us to foot the bill (a few hundred quid) as apparently they were told that the issue would have occurred while we still lived there (but we hadn’t had the heating on as it was summer so didn’t realise). Our solicitor told us of course we didn’t have to pay and we’ve refused but I can’t believe the cheek
of it!! Where would it end otherwise?! And why on earth did their solicitor not tell them they were being ridiculous?

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ilovegranny · 18/11/2023 18:47

This happens to me; boiler died three weeks after moving in. Tough luck on us, the carpets had to wait, but no way would I have asked the vendors to cough up!

06230villefrancesurmer · 18/11/2023 19:29

Caveat emptor.

DingDongMerrilyWithPie · 18/11/2023 19:49

Backtoreality1 · 17/11/2023 10:39

When I sold my house in Scotland, it was a built in clause that the heating/boiler had to be in working order or you would be liable. Don't think that exists in England though.

Yes, I've heard this too. Also Scotland.

Coco1379 · 18/11/2023 19:58

You should have gone to your surveyor for compensation.

Malbecfan · 18/11/2023 20:00

Not RTFT but when we eventually sold MiL's flat after she died, which was a whole sorry saga of its own, the miserable buyer got her solicitor to write to ours to demand £500 for new windows as we hadn't left any window keys. We never lived there so had no idea if there were any, all the windows opened, it was a 2nd floor flat so hardly a security risk and at the time you could buy replacements online for £1.50 each - there were 3 windows. Our solicitor was really embarrassed when she rang me about it.

There is a legal case involving Private Eye called Arkell vs Pressdram. The upshot of it is that one side told the other to f@ck off. Our solicitor was not familiar with the case, but after a quick explanation, she wrote a letter quoting it and refused to charge us for it. Never heard another peep out of the buyer. OP, I strongly urge the same tactic.

Skodacool · 18/11/2023 21:54

It’s absolutely the buyer’s responsibility. The moment the sale is completed the property is theirs.

Differentstarts · 18/11/2023 22:14

It's always the boiler I'm sure people just move house when their boiler breaks

GlitteryRainbow · 18/11/2023 22:47

That’s why you get a gas inspection before you buy a house. Then you know if there is a problem.

Startingagainandagain · 18/11/2023 22:59

So you are saying you went for months without using hot water? no one in your household ever had a bath during that period? Because I can understand the heating not being used in the summer but hot water is a different story....

I recently bough a house only to find on the day of completion that the boiler was not working. To me that is unacceptable and I don't believe for a minute that the sellers were unaware of it...

They had declared on the conveyancing forms that the system was working and provided a copy of the most recent boiler annual check as evidence. The boiler worked when the home survey was done. I would absolutely expect the sellers to have the decency to declare that the boiler had subsequently broken down before completion and either offer to try to fix it or to take some money off the selling price.

They also left in the house a bunch of furniture, old curtains everywhere and more stuff in the shed and garden.

I asked my solicitor to write to them telling them that I expected them to reimburse me for having to dispose of the crap they had left and to pay half the cost relating to the boiler.

This is a small town and all the neighbours soon became aware that they had left me with a lot of stuff to clear out, a broken boiler as well as a leaking toilet which damaged the ceiling below. In the end that's what pushed the sellers to respond positively to the solicitor letter as they realised their reputation has taken a serious hit and people were talking....

Frankly the home buying system in England is a joke and it allows too many greedy and dishonest sellers to hide issues and get away with it...It needs some serious reform.

BackAgainstWall · 18/11/2023 23:37

YADNBU

How utterly ridiculous.

The majority of houses have some sort of issue(s).

What do they expect if they find for example, a bit of damp?

Are you supposed to have your cheque book ready 😂

They’ve bought the house, they own the house and therefore it’s their responsibility now.

randomusername03 · 19/11/2023 07:40

In Scotland there is a standard clause in conveyancing missives that all reputable solicities use that there is a 7 day window for buyers to check for faults and if they are above a threshold (think its £300) then these can potentially be claimed back from seller. Don't think it exists in England.

Ohgollymolly · 19/11/2023 08:41

Unfortunately it was their duty to check it worked before completion.

The buyers of our last house tried to bill us for a locksmith as they apparently couldn’t get the front door to open. It was temperamental, but it worked! We just used the back door. The next day the estate agent tried to put pressure on us to pay for the emergency locksmith, but we refused. I was working as an estate agent at that point (he didn’t know that) so I knew we had no obligation post sale.

People just try it on!

Ohgollymolly · 19/11/2023 08:42

Had the boiler been serviced recently?

Startingagainandagain · 19/11/2023 09:50

''@Ohgollymolly · Today 08:41

Unfortunately it was their duty to check it worked before completion.

The buyers of our last house tried to bill us for a locksmith as they apparently couldn’t get the front door to open. It was temperamental, but it worked! We just used the back door. The next day the estate agent tried to put pressure on us to pay for the emergency locksmith, but we refused. I was working as an estate agent at that point (he didn’t know that) so I knew we had no obligation post sale.''

People just try it on!''

This is so disingenuous.

Your front door obviously did not work if you used the back door to get into you house every day...

Don't you think that people who have just spend a small fortune buying a house are right to expect to be able to use their bloody front door on the day of completion to get into their home?

Unbelievable.

Estate agent? no wonder...

Palaver1 · 19/11/2023 10:35

Wow to the message at 8.41
You are awful

Malbecfan · 19/11/2023 14:10

Why are they awful? We use our back door as our main entrance. The front door works but it sticks a bit in the damp weather (permanent at the moment). If someone asked me for a locksmith because it was a bit temperamental, I'd tell them where to go. If you want it perfect, buy a brand new house. Oh, newsflash, they aren't perfect either!

Passepartoute · 19/11/2023 14:12

Startingagainandagain · 19/11/2023 09:50

''@Ohgollymolly · Today 08:41

Unfortunately it was their duty to check it worked before completion.

The buyers of our last house tried to bill us for a locksmith as they apparently couldn’t get the front door to open. It was temperamental, but it worked! We just used the back door. The next day the estate agent tried to put pressure on us to pay for the emergency locksmith, but we refused. I was working as an estate agent at that point (he didn’t know that) so I knew we had no obligation post sale.''

People just try it on!''

This is so disingenuous.

Your front door obviously did not work if you used the back door to get into you house every day...

Don't you think that people who have just spend a small fortune buying a house are right to expect to be able to use their bloody front door on the day of completion to get into their home?

Unbelievable.

Estate agent? no wonder...

Nonsense. This classically comes within the remit of "Buyer beware". If neither the buyer nor their surveyor raised the issue of the front door, it was too late raise it after the purchase had gone through.

WonkyFeelings · 19/11/2023 14:13

I had some buyers that wanted to include a clause in the contract making me responsible for future repairs.

Took me about half an hour to stop laughing.

Topseyt123 · 19/11/2023 14:58

Someone did it to us once too. Tried to get us to agree to pay for all future repairs on an open ended basis.

Errm, NO!!

Schoolsarecrapforasd · 19/11/2023 15:22

This happened to our buyers. So we offered to pay half of the new part. If they had wanted a whole new boiler, that was their choice.

Startingagainandagain · 20/11/2023 09:06

@Passepartoute

''Nonsense. This classically comes within the remit of "Buyer beware". If neither the buyer nor their surveyor raised the issue of the front door, it was too late raise it after the purchase had gone through.''

I would actually feel ashamed to sell a house where the people could not even use the front door...

Raise your standards.

This is why the housing market needs to be better regulated.

Too many greedy sellers who think it is fine to sell a place riddled with defects because the law is on their side and they will face no consequences.

I assume the person who sold that house made sure that on the days of viewings and on the survey day she forced the door open in advance so people did not pick up on the problem. Being deceiving is really nothing to boast about.

Ohgollymolly · 20/11/2023 13:03

Startingagainandagain · 19/11/2023 09:50

''@Ohgollymolly · Today 08:41

Unfortunately it was their duty to check it worked before completion.

The buyers of our last house tried to bill us for a locksmith as they apparently couldn’t get the front door to open. It was temperamental, but it worked! We just used the back door. The next day the estate agent tried to put pressure on us to pay for the emergency locksmith, but we refused. I was working as an estate agent at that point (he didn’t know that) so I knew we had no obligation post sale.''

People just try it on!''

This is so disingenuous.

Your front door obviously did not work if you used the back door to get into you house every day...

Don't you think that people who have just spend a small fortune buying a house are right to expect to be able to use their bloody front door on the day of completion to get into their home?

Unbelievable.

Estate agent? no wonder...

We used the back door as it was closer to the drive way and safer to get the kids in. Also the front door went straight on to carpet with no room to take shoes off. The front door worked absolutely fine, there was definitely a knack to it, but it was fine.

housethatbuiltme · 20/11/2023 14:04

Startingagainandagain · 19/11/2023 09:50

''@Ohgollymolly · Today 08:41

Unfortunately it was their duty to check it worked before completion.

The buyers of our last house tried to bill us for a locksmith as they apparently couldn’t get the front door to open. It was temperamental, but it worked! We just used the back door. The next day the estate agent tried to put pressure on us to pay for the emergency locksmith, but we refused. I was working as an estate agent at that point (he didn’t know that) so I knew we had no obligation post sale.''

People just try it on!''

This is so disingenuous.

Your front door obviously did not work if you used the back door to get into you house every day...

Don't you think that people who have just spend a small fortune buying a house are right to expect to be able to use their bloody front door on the day of completion to get into their home?

Unbelievable.

Estate agent? no wonder...

We use the back door to get into our house daily as thats where the parking is. Everyone on our street does, nothing wrong with our front door.

Just because someone uses one door not the other is not proof one is broken.

And yes for a few years our back door was temperamental until we got it fixed. I thought due to my disability I was just personally struggling with it but actually turned out to be something wrong with the lock. However it was still the one we used daily like that for years before it was fixed.

asdfgasdfg · 01/01/2024 15:16

We have really cheap electricity at night so as soon as the weather warms up we turn our boiler off and use the emersion heater over night for hot water then the boiler comes back on in October/November so we'd have no idea there was a problem in say June

anothernamechangeagainsndagain · 01/01/2024 15:29

We requested a full service on prior to exchange, if you don't request this then there's no come back

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