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To be mildly annoyed people abuse BB parking spaces?

129 replies

Soubriquet · 16/11/2023 15:25

I went out today for the first time in a while. I have a BB and was lucky to be able to get a space since I kept seeing parents parking there and getting out prams. No badges in the windows

I was mildly annoyed tbh but I was also a saddened that people feel they can use a blue badge bay without one!

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Finishingoff · 16/11/2023 17:48

Totally agree. I was at a walk-in clinic today with my elderly and immobile mum. I parked in a blue badge space using her badge but either side of me were people parking up with no blue badges. There were other non-BB spaces too which I found particularly annoying. The BB spaces were just closer to the door. One woman had a bandaged thumb and another had a rash on her back (she was next to me in the queue) so no mobility problems.

Portakalkedi · 16/11/2023 17:49

I have a BB and see this all the time. If I can't get a wide space then I have to leave as I won't be able to get out of the car. I have often spoken to supermarket managers and they say there is nothing they can do. Some people are just idle and selfish cheating bastards.

spidermonkeys · 16/11/2023 17:49

Lilclover · 16/11/2023 16:18

This is a real bug bearer of mine!! Happens a lot with Parent and baby parking spaces too. I have a 6 month old and I have had at least 10 arguments at our local Tesco alone with people who have no baby and park in those spaces. Same as BB spaces they have additional space relative to a standard space specifically for wheelchairs etc etc.

with the baby parking I’ve gotten into the habit of thanking people for being so lazy that they put my child at risk (from having to be put in their pram at the back of the car in a standard spot rather than being able to use the designated baby aisles at the side). People are usually either narky or embarrassed.

The two things are not comparable. One is essential and one is a nice perk if available.

Myfabby · 16/11/2023 17:51

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Don't use foul language. Very unattractive.

Gerrataere · 16/11/2023 17:53

Myfabby · 16/11/2023 17:51

Don't use foul language. Very unattractive.

’Very unattractive’, to fucking whom exactly 🤣. Anyway, correcting people’s grammar unnecessarily is probably the most unattractive trait to have 🤢.

whalestoeinstitute · 16/11/2023 17:54

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Portakalkedi · 16/11/2023 17:56

As a BB holder, if the disabled spaces are all full then yes I will park in the P&C space as it is wider. As previous replies say, having a child with you is not disabling, and assuming you have no mobility problems then just park a bit further away to get the space you need for prams etc. Some of us don't have that option. Annoying that at some shops P&C spaces are nearer to the entrance than the BB ones, guess the parents/kids are bigger spenders than the disabled?

Jeannie88 · 16/11/2023 17:57

Awful, the BB spaces should not be used for anything else. X

Myfabby · 16/11/2023 17:59

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fetchacloth · 16/11/2023 17:59

HamsterBanana · 16/11/2023 16:14

I'd of took photos of each car & reported them. Grin

I have a blue badge and it really annoys me when I see people parking in them without a badge!

My father used to do this when he was still using his BB and would report incidents as they arose.
He was wheelchair dependent so being able to park in a BB space was essential for him.
Some people are so selfish😡

Gerrataere · 16/11/2023 18:02

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Jeannie88 · 16/11/2023 18:03

TigerRag · 16/11/2023 16:54

But you're not allowed to park in BB spaces. Park at the back where there's usually 2 spaces together

I agree, find an empty space further away, you are preventing someone who needs the room for medical reasons, not to just get a pram out! Never in my life would I dream of taking a disabled zone. So by thinking you are safely getting your DC out, which you can do elsewhere, what about the person in a wheelchair getting themselves safely out? This sort of entitled attitude is wrong on every level. Being a parent isn't a disability, it just takes a bit more effort and consideration to find somewhere else.

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fetchacloth · 16/11/2023 18:06

Portakalkedi · 16/11/2023 17:56

As a BB holder, if the disabled spaces are all full then yes I will park in the P&C space as it is wider. As previous replies say, having a child with you is not disabling, and assuming you have no mobility problems then just park a bit further away to get the space you need for prams etc. Some of us don't have that option. Annoying that at some shops P&C spaces are nearer to the entrance than the BB ones, guess the parents/kids are bigger spenders than the disabled?

Weirdly my local Tesco has the P&C spaces right by the shop entrance. As parents are generally younger than most disabled people, it could be assumed that the parents are more able-bodied than disabled people, so could walk further to the shop entrance.
The disabled bays are four rows back into the car park and those people have much further to move and negotiate 2 zebra crossings to reach the shop entrance.
I do wonder how and why these decisions are made sometimes 🙄

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TomeTome · 16/11/2023 18:09

I really rarely see anyone in the bb space without a badge here. You can park in P&C spaces if you have a bb and on double yellow lines etc. I thought everyone knew that’s what they were for.

HollaHolla · 16/11/2023 18:11

Babyghirl · 16/11/2023 16:52

@Soubriquet
Same as people using p&c spaces with no child, I would park in a bb space if no p&c spaces cause If I don't I have to get my daughter out of the car leave her in her pram while I put car in to the space and do the same get the car out before I can put her in as the spaces are to tight. Do I feel bad about it ni cause my daughters safety is important to me.

Then you are breaking the law, if you don't have a blue badge. You are selfish.
It drives me mad. There are days I can hardly walk 100m, and if I can't get a disabled space, I have to go home again. It's especially bad, because I need to park in a car park like this for work - and I have to get there super early, because if someone has parked in a blue badge space, because they have a child (and not a blue badge), I end up sitting for ages, waiting for a space to become free.

I get that the safety of your child is important, but I, and many others, have NO CHOICE about our mobility. Until I ended up like this, I didn't realise how many selfish people like you exist.

Togekiss · 16/11/2023 18:13

Babyghirl · 16/11/2023 16:52

@Soubriquet
Same as people using p&c spaces with no child, I would park in a bb space if no p&c spaces cause If I don't I have to get my daughter out of the car leave her in her pram while I put car in to the space and do the same get the car out before I can put her in as the spaces are to tight. Do I feel bad about it ni cause my daughters safety is important to me.

I have two young kids. I can’t remember a single time where I’ve ever had to park in a disabled parking spot so I could get my kid/s into a pram.

If there were no P&C spaces available I simply park somewhere where there’s spaces free either side. If that wasn’t available, I’d set the pram up as close to my car as possible and then just lift my child into it…

You are taking up a space that is not for you. You do not need to use those spaces. You’re choosing to because you’re, quite simply, lazy.

It has nothing to do with safety. It has everything to do with you being lazy and entitled.

Leave those spaces for those who actually need and require them.

Gingerkittykat · 16/11/2023 18:25

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 16/11/2023 16:26

YANBU, but I know some people whose family members possess blue badges and abuse them, ie when their disabled family members aren't there and have no plans to be there.

That always really surprises me because I assume that the family members of those who are eligible for a blue badge must surely know how important those spaces are to people who need them. I guess some people are just very selfish!

The badge holder can lose the badge if the relatives get caught abusing it, unfortunately there are rarely traffic wardens about to catch them.

It's amazing how many more disabled people there are when it rains. I am a BB holder and noticed the 4 BB spaces nearest the door were being used by people not displaying a badge!

I've found that people tend to respect on street disabled spaces, probably because they can be fined if caught, but abuse the spaces in supermarkets etc.

benefitsterrified · 16/11/2023 18:28

The abelism on this thread is shocking. Well, it's not, but it's eye opening.

Having a baby is not the same as being disabled.

Disabled people - with or without a BB - are entitled to use a parent and child space as a reasonable adjustment for their disability if they need to.

Fuck me like.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 16/11/2023 18:32

Gingerkittykat · 16/11/2023 18:25

The badge holder can lose the badge if the relatives get caught abusing it, unfortunately there are rarely traffic wardens about to catch them.

It's amazing how many more disabled people there are when it rains. I am a BB holder and noticed the 4 BB spaces nearest the door were being used by people not displaying a badge!

I've found that people tend to respect on street disabled spaces, probably because they can be fined if caught, but abuse the spaces in supermarkets etc.

I think it would be very difficult for traffic wardens to catch them even if they were around, tbh, as some people may have invisible disabilities that still mean that they need a blue badge. The system relies on trust, and I'd like to think that most people who have disabled relatives understand the importance of the spaces for those who need them and don't abuse that trust. There will always be some who don't give a shit though....

It's a shame that there can't be better enforcement in supermarkets etc. It really is very selfish if people use those spaces when they don't need to.

TomeTome · 16/11/2023 18:34

bb’s have a photo so if the warden asks to see it they definitely can tell it’s not yours!

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 16/11/2023 18:40

Portakalkedi · 16/11/2023 17:56

As a BB holder, if the disabled spaces are all full then yes I will park in the P&C space as it is wider. As previous replies say, having a child with you is not disabling, and assuming you have no mobility problems then just park a bit further away to get the space you need for prams etc. Some of us don't have that option. Annoying that at some shops P&C spaces are nearer to the entrance than the BB ones, guess the parents/kids are bigger spenders than the disabled?

Absolutely reasonable to park in a P&C space if you have a blue badge!

Absolutely not reasonable the other way around!!!

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 16/11/2023 18:45

TomeTome · 16/11/2023 18:34

bb’s have a photo so if the warden asks to see it they definitely can tell it’s not yours!

Yes, obviously if they get close enough. Most of the time, they probably just look from a distance to check that the blue badge is there, no? Also, if someone was caught out, couldn't they just claim that they were collecting the badge holder or something?

I think a bit of basic human decency is needed for the system to work properly. It is hard to police it perfectly. Though I would like to see hefty fines for people parking in those spaces in supermarkets etc when they don't need to do so.

Sirzy · 16/11/2023 18:45

Ds (14) has a blue badge. The worst place in our experience for people abusing the spaces in the children’s hospital we have to go to regulary. They have rows of about 10 disabled spaces on each floor on the car park and often less than 50% of cars in those spaces have badges on display.