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To think we can't carry on like this

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mrlistersgelfbride · 12/11/2023 23:54

I should say in advance this may be triggering to some. I promise I'm not a troll and it isn't a reverse. I've posted on here under different guises over the years.

Tonight my partner (after an afternoon in the pub) said to DD (5) who is our only child "How does it feel to know you'll never have a sibling?"
When I protested ('don't say that') he said "Well your mum (meaning me) killed your only chance of one" I was astounded. DD kept saying "What , what?" and he said aside (to me) "Well what can I tell her when she's older when she asks? That's what I'll tell her, it's the truth".

Context ( I'll keep this as brief as I can):
Together 11 years. DD unexpected. We aren't married. I had post partum psychosis, struggled a lot. Lots of problems, arguements between our families, I got resentful of partner drinking and going out too much and not parenting (which he still does). Found out I was pregnant again when DD was 18-20months. I still had moderate depression (it's lingered for years). Both partner and I agreed on a termination. I went ahead with that.

Partner never got over it. It was 4 years ago and he's brought it up in arguements. He's called me a baby killer (I also had termination at 20 before I met him). He's played ther terminator music when I walk into a room...im not making this up. He's been really horrible. I would have considered another child with him later if we'd been able to sort things out. We've talked and talked, he will never see my side. Counseling didn't work. He spends his time at work, asleep, drinking and arguing with me.

Why have I stayed? Fear, nowhere to go, money, don't want DD missing out. Not all days are bad. We still go on days out and holidays together to try and give DD a good life. DD adores her dad, she tells me often. He's her favourite and she's rather live with him than me. Told me that too.

But there's no coming back from that is there? It's genuinely the worst thing he's ever said to me. Oh apart from the fact he's wished I'd rot in a mental asylum with my post partum psychosis.

He's drinking tonight keeping me awake, Monday morning is looming. He does this most weekends.
I've tried all sorts of tactics with him. He's a classical narc and the more I protest, the more he'll continue to wind me up. I tend to go driving the streets in my car to get away from the loud music , singing and wailing insults which is what I'll do later probably. Not for long, I don't want to leave DD with him at all. She always sleeps through everything.

I've spoken to my family, and whilst they hate him, they don't want to know. They don't take me and DD even for a night. Neither can any friends. When I've opened up to friends they just say kick him out, but he's 18 stone and a bully. It's not that simple.

I know AIBU will give me honesty.
I don't know what to do but I'm determined this will be my last miserable year living like this.

OP posts:
caringcarer · 13/11/2023 10:09

SplendidUtterly · 13/11/2023 00:39

What the fuck did I just read.
Your partner has played the terminator music when you walk into a room and calls you the "baby killer"?

I had to read it again to check I'd read it right too. He sounds deranged. He's trying to turn your DD against you. I'd take your DD and leave. He won't get better. Ring a refuge. He's abused you for years now he's started abusing your DD. Don't let him do it. Get her away from him.

AmazingSnakeHead · 13/11/2023 10:09

Oh OP this is one of the worst things I have read on here. Please leave this man. Please leave him.

Turning your DD against you, her mum, will be massively damaging to her long term. While you stay with him you give her the message that this is a normal way to ge treated by a man. You don't want her growing up thinking that she deserves abuse or can't have an abortion, do you?

The thought of you driving round to escape him yelling abuse at you is awful. And yes, your DD can almsot certainly hear. Imagine what it would be like to live just you and DD. To spend the day out with DD, come home, have a nice dinner, watch some TV or listen to music in peace, and go to bed quietly. Whatever you have to do, even if it's going into a shelter, is worth it.

Loubelle70 · 13/11/2023 10:12

No ifs buts. I would separate from him immediately. Its conditioning your DC to be disrespectful towards you tbh...nm the subject matter that kids at any age should not know!!!. Drunk is no excuse

Loubelle70 · 13/11/2023 10:13

AmazingSnakeHead · 13/11/2023 10:09

Oh OP this is one of the worst things I have read on here. Please leave this man. Please leave him.

Turning your DD against you, her mum, will be massively damaging to her long term. While you stay with him you give her the message that this is a normal way to ge treated by a man. You don't want her growing up thinking that she deserves abuse or can't have an abortion, do you?

The thought of you driving round to escape him yelling abuse at you is awful. And yes, your DD can almsot certainly hear. Imagine what it would be like to live just you and DD. To spend the day out with DD, come home, have a nice dinner, watch some TV or listen to music in peace, and go to bed quietly. Whatever you have to do, even if it's going into a shelter, is worth it.

All over this.

AmazingSnakeHead · 13/11/2023 10:19

Don't be afraid of losing her to him. You can have a court order in place to ringfence your time with her. And I guarantee you that he will not want 50:50. A man who spends all Sunday at the pub and comes home to abuse his wife will not want to look after a child all weekend. Please just don't let on that you actually want DD full time. Make out like you go out and have a good time or are doing a part-time course on your days without her, and then he will always cancel just to fuck up your "plans".

OP this man hates you. He hates you so much that he doesn't care about deeply upsetting his own little five year old girl just to get at you. Whatever contact he gets post separation will not be as damaging as the situation you're now in. Once he doesn't have you as an audience he won't be able to do this, and you can control the narrative at home. As soon as she's old enough to understand then she'll realise her dad is a prick and probably won't want to see him anymore.

meganorks · 13/11/2023 10:32

That is absolutely disgusting! What a horrible man. He clearly doesn't love you and this is only going to get worse and worse for you and your daughter. You need to get out as soon as you can.

It's a shame you have no one to support you. So I think you need to find out what other support is available. I think maybe you need to start with some legal advice about the house. Can you speak to citizens advice maybe? It doesn't sound like you can really force him to leave if he refuses so do you have any savings to use to try and rent somewhere else? I think maybe talk to a woman's shelter for advice and support? Hopefully if you actually move out you would find some of your friends and family might be able to step up and help.

I'm so sorry you are in this position. I hope you can find the support you need to leave.

Wallywobbles · 13/11/2023 11:38

He sounds very similar to my abusive ex. He lost parental rights so don't underestimate what a cunt he is.

He told my eldest that she should have been aborted when she was about 4.

My only defense was to say to the kids from very small. "What do you think?" And I'd explain in words and ways they could understand. It was our only defense from the barrage of awfulness.

They knew more about me than they should have because he was constantly trying to turn them against me. But he is a problem drinker and a total wanker. It didn't turn out how he wanted.

By having no secrets there was nothing left to demask. He even rang my sister to tell her!

Aveen1 · 13/11/2023 12:30

Hi OP, I also adored my dad but he did drink a lot when I was younger and that had a lot of impact on me mentally and still has as an adult. I did love him as a child and still do but cannot wipe away from memory his aggression and unstable behaviours after drinking. Your child is getting impacted by all that is happening in the home, some fun days and holidays will not out weight the damage that is done by his instability. It is not going to be easy but, you need to do something about. He is not going to change and it’s setting a terrible role model for your child. Not just his behaviours but the fact that you staying with a bully. How do you think that is going to impact the child’s ability to set boundaries with others. Yes, it might be that he doesn’t have closure but that does not mean that he can abuse you or your child. You went through a lot- I can’t even imagine the difficulties you experienced going through psychosis. Did you treat him the way he treats you when you were experiencing all this?

bakewellbride · 13/11/2023 13:39

Sounds exactly like my mother's partner. He was incredibly mentally unwell (very nearly sectioned) and took it out on me from age 2 or 3. She was on his side every time and never left him. I broke free and have absolutely nothing to do with either of them now, no contact for many years. Leave asap - Don't make the same mistake my mother made.

Ch0c0Pancake1 · 13/11/2023 14:16

You have zero reasons to stay in this relationship

End the relationship today

He is a drunk
He has zero respect for you or your child
His abuse is ramping up

Ask your family, friends, Womens Aid, local police for help today

You & your child are being affected by his behaviour

mrlistersgelfbride · 13/11/2023 15:37

Thanks everyone. Lots to think about.

Only just been able to reply. Not had much sleep and a busy day at work. Everytime I tried to reply my boss kept coming in 😬

I text my parents last night. They read he message and ignored it! So you can see why I feel I have no support.

I do agree that anything is better than this. He gives me a dog's life.
I will try to contact women's aid although I'm wary of being relocated. I don't want DD to miss school and I've just started a new job that I like and want to keep it.
I'm sure my partner would say I'm a nutter, unhinged killed his baby. MIL says I "ruined how dreams" , so that's why he acts like this.
He won't agree to split up. I wish he would, it would be a lot easier.

OP posts:
LittleOwl153 · 13/11/2023 15:49

Talk to women's aid. See if you can get an occupation order on the house. What he is doing is abusive both to you and your daughter.

Then talk to them about parental alienation to protect your daughter. Have your spoke to her school about him? Let them know what he has said as she might say something at school and they will help you too.

Janetsmug · 13/11/2023 16:06

Women's Aid can be difficult to get through to on the national 24hr line OP but there will be local DV services which, while not usually 24hr, can be easier to get through to during normal hours. If you go onto the WA website and click on local services you can enter your area and your nearest service and opening hours will come up. Just didn't want you to be discouraged by trying the national line and struggling to get an answer, good luck Flowers

LookingForPurpose · 13/11/2023 16:24

mrlistersgelfbride · 13/11/2023 01:07

@sweetgingercat Thank you. I agree it's good we didn't have another child together in the end.
I'm so scared of loosing DD to him. If actually never stop him from seeing her I just want to be free of this. To be rid of him.

You are already losing your daughter, her child hood is being deleted and destroyed by a man that is very clearly a fucking monster and he's worn you down so much you are just standing there watching. Letting it happen.

Do you know what happens to kids raised by people like him? They spend their entire lives feeling worthless, chasing monsters just like him and praying that one day they might get a crumb of love from them. Wondering why their other parent didn't stop it, why didn't they protect them? They end up with hideously disordered relationships and sometimes personality disorders and then they raise an entirely new generation and perpetuate the same cycle of abuse and emotional neglect all over again.

PleaseLeaveASAP · 16/11/2023 12:10

@mrlistersgelfbride

How are you and your DD? Has everything been ok?

Mmhmmn · 04/02/2024 20:47

So sorry to see this, OP. You must get away from him - others here will have some constructive advice but do seek help from Womens Aid. He is an abusive bastard.

Janetime · 04/02/2024 20:53

He's her favourite and she's rather live with him than me. Told me that too

this whole thing is awful but the above made me sad. No young child should be so impacted by their parents relationship they say something like that. She must feel so insecure in her home. And the things he said to her.

please the two of you split up and sort this out,for her sake.

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