To think many fell for the Captain Tom scam

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I never understood all the fuss about Captain Tom. A rich old man walked around his garden and was lauded as a hero. Family then go on freebie holiday to Barbados whilst rest of us were locked down for Christmas. Then it turns out he was part of family scam to pay the family from book proceeds. No wonder so many people in this country are targeted by scammers, we are a gullible lot.

🎵Planning department to Captain Tom
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@DiolchamFawr It was COVID. People were just bamboozled and clung on to something they admired. No on factored in how it would work in practice.

My God what are you saying. If you are ever selected for jury service,please tell them you are not well and don't go.

Haha! 😁

Has there been any suggestion that the money he raised by walking has been diverted from the NHS to the family? I don't think there has been, so the NHS got all those millions that people donated. It was the earnings from his books that has gone to the family and I don't see why there should be a problem with that, if it was never claimed that the book proceeds were also going to charity. I think the OP's viewpoint sounds envious and spiteful.

It feels uncomfortable to speak ill of the dead. He cannot defend himself. If he was exploited by his family that is very sad 😞

The minute we are shown evidence giving her sibling half of the "money he wanted to go to the family" I will.start to believe it.

Until then, and having read one of his books and being under the impression he was still helping charity in writing it, the word chancer comes to mind.

H Ingram Moore was paid by the charity. The charity commission is investigating because her and her business interests were not independent from the charity.

It was lockdown. Nobody was going to be able to look over the hedge to see whether he was really walking up and down the garden path or whether she took a couple of videos and then emailed a TV channel whilst he was sat down eating biscuits.

Michelle Mone-wannabe.

All on the take these types.

Bras and Spas. Toxic combination.

I've not seen this programme but when it all happened with him being lauded like a saint on ITV I didn't really understand it or care who the fuck he was, I never said anything cos everyone seemed to hail him as some sort of righteous savour. The fact it's come out as a scam is quite shocking but I'm apathetic due to my complete disregard and disdain for the weirdos who got all worked up about the old bugger. Sorry, I'm being a bit flippant!

I had my head bitten off by friends at the time for daring to say I think it was a scam. Funnily enough not a one of them has come forward to say sorry and that I was right.

Because you're probably not. 😂 I'd say most people believe he was genuine but his family then saw the £££. Everybody aside from a few on mumsnet lol.

I'm a bit conflicted tbh. His daughter seems a bit of a chancer tbf, but I'm not sure raising money for charity and inadvertently becoming famous means your entire legacy also has to go to charity rather than your family. Isn't raising £37m enough of a contribution?

I think when you are in the public eye and high profile with a charity named after you, you need to make your intentions clear. Just say it’s a separate enterprise from fund raising. Make it clear to potential buyers of the book.

Fair point.

@TizerorFizz I think that's my main beef too- if the work is all associated with charity then it should be made clear that a book is a commercial venture and not part of the charities efforts , otherwise 'some' people will buy purely on thinking it's giving money to the charity - I think it's called muddying the waters

@Crikeyalmighty That is really my point too. Be clear and keep the book enterprise separate in the minds of the public. It is not right to publish a book which buyers clearly think is contributing to the charity when they buy it. It’s all very well saying that he wanted his family to have the profits after he died but most didn’t know that. She appears to have set up companies to allow this to happen with the agreement of the charity trustees.

The charities commission is looking at whether the charity is sufficiently distanced from the Ingram Moore family. The charities commission also says that the charity failed to register trade marks. Specifically the “Captain Tom” one. This was subsequently used by the Ingram Moores to generate money for their companies. There was no objection from the charity trustees to the use of “Captain Tom” by the Ingram Moore family. As a result, the charity commission is looking into whether this diverted money from the charity. It appears the book was part of this business activity. I could be wrong.

You got your head bitten off on here as well if you even murmured it was a scam. There were many deleted posts

But surely the bit when he was high profile, when he was doing his laps, was not a scam as the donations received for that went to NHS Charities. So any threads on that saying that was a scam would be wrong. Don’t really remember any discussions on here about the Foundation

Personally I thought Tom Moore's intentions were good, but his daughter and husband got greedy and have sullied his name for their own means.

From Sky News:

Ms Ingram-Moore was joined by her husband Colin and their children Benji, 19, and Georgia, 14 during the interview - with the family insisting there was no suggestion anyone who bought the books thought the money was going to charity.
However, the prologue of the autobiography reads: "Astonishingly at my age, with the offer to write this memoir I have also been given the chance to raise even more money for the charitable foundation now established in my name."

I borrowed this book from the library and took a photo (sorry not great quality) of the prologue, which shows more detail of how the money from the book was intended to be used.