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Parking and Neighbour

116 replies

PeaceGoodMercutio · 07/11/2023 11:18

Who is being unreasonable, me or my neighbour?
The space in blue is a "shared access driveway" but part of it outlined in red is owned by us.
We park in our parking bay (23). Our neighbour (24)keeps parking where the yellow box is on my picture, which blocks access to our drive and stops us being able to get out.
She says so does this because she says she should be able to get into her drive without doing any manoeuvres (no idea what she means) and she has to be able to get up close to our back gate.
She has two spaces, and if she has a visitor she parks in the yellow rectangle. Sometimes she parks there anyway. (Sometimes her visitor parks on our drive) .
Is she allowed to park in the yellow rectangle when it blocks our private parking spaces?
Also, am I allowed to park where the pink car is or does it block her parking spaces?

OP posts:
Pinkdelight3 · 07/11/2023 16:04

LIZS · 07/11/2023 15:37

On the original op had marked a position you park in between the red space and op house, which would restrict ndn access to parking spaces, so a bit tit-for-tat.

I think she said she only parks there when the neighbour has done their dodgy parking , preventing getting a second/visitor's car into OP's second space. Don't think she parks there out of choice like the neighbour does.

PepeLePugh · 07/11/2023 16:12

2jacqi · 07/11/2023 15:32

@PeaceGoodMercutio so she is parking her car on your land? I would fence it in but leave a good bit for your access to get in and out. she has absolutely no right to be on your ground

The neighbour is allowed access to the shared driveway so that she can get her car in and out so OP would not be able to fence off the land. However, whilst neighbour has access, she is not allowed to park.

PeaceGoodMercutio · 07/11/2023 16:31

No... I would park there if I couldn't get in my drive due to my neighbour blocking my drive.

OP posts:
maryberryslayers · 07/11/2023 20:04

No, she absolutely can't park on your land, no matter how big her car is. It's your property, you own it, it's not a shared drive, it's a privately owned drive with shared access. She has a right of access nothing else, not the ability to park.
We have the same set up and had the same issue with a neighbours regular visitor. I went out every time and stood there until she moved.
The other option is to block her in every time or I believe you could pay to get her towed.

olympicsrock · 07/11/2023 20:57

Time for a strongly worded letter. Threaten legal action if she does not desist in illegal parking.

Kattitude · 07/11/2023 20:59

She’s in the wrong, she should be driving a smaller vehicle if she can’t manoeuvre that one, tell her to move.

LittleMouse10 · 08/11/2023 03:44

If you own that land and I would be checking my deed to know exactly what I own. I would be checking my rights and towing her car every time its on my land. She will soon realize that she can park in her spot or suffer the consequences. It's totally rude to be parking there and blocking your access.

YireosDodeAver · 08/11/2023 04:09

Yanbu and she must be very stupid not to understand so spell it out.

Get the actual deeds pictures from the kand registry (£3 each) so you can guve her an accurate illustration.

Write it down for her

If you park across the front of your allocated spaces then you are oarking on my land which you have no right to do. Your wish to make parking easier for yourself does not create a right for you to park on my land. You have the right to drive over that part of my land in order to access your oarking spaces, you do not have the right to park there. I have an obligation to allow you that access to drive across my land to reach your spaces. I do not have to put up with you deciding to park on my land when you have no right to. If you cannot understand this I will have to instruct a lawyer to explain it to you in more detail. Please just stop, because tgat action will be expensive for both of us.

However you are wrong to park on the shared area yourself. Be blameless by just sticking to your own spaces and any overspill on public road.

SD1978 · 08/11/2023 04:20

No one should be parking in the pink- no one should be parking on the shared drive. I'd do as others have suggested and legal letter to that effect- and also is it a thi if to have cars towed if they are parking on your land? If so I'd put up a notice to that effect if it's legal to do so.

TerrorAustralis · 08/11/2023 05:20

I lived in a place where the only way to get into my parking space was to drive past it, turn the wheel hard left and then reverse in to the right. Is this what she means by manoeuvres? She just has to learn how to do it. Her lack of parking skills isn’t an excuse.

SinnerBoy · 08/11/2023 05:51

I agree that having your deeds checked by a solicitor, followed by a letter is the best course of action. Possibly try to have a polite word first, explaining.

I she keeps doing it, put the day's newspaper on her car and take a few photos, every time. (Don't leave the paper on her windscreen).

Acornsoup · 08/11/2023 06:12

She should not be parking in the passing place/on your property. Nobody should be parking on the pink bit and only you have a right to park in your spaces. Rain thunder on her OP. You have already tried to be nice.

Solicitors letter and if that doesn't work start parking outside her house until she gets the message.

Acornsoup · 08/11/2023 06:14

Suggest parking like this and telling her you don't like to manoeuvre either. See how that goes.

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wesurecouldstandgladioli · 08/11/2023 06:25

I can’t believe how much of a twat she is.

Sexnotgender · 08/11/2023 06:30

Start parking in her spaces.

Birdie8989 · 08/11/2023 06:31

If you have a car on both driveways and she parks there, can you get out without asking her to move? There is a bit of a gap on your drawing but not sure how big it is.

If you can get in and out (even with difficulty) then I would suck it up, but if the space is unusable due to her parking then she is definitely unreasonable

jeaux90 · 08/11/2023 06:38

Deeds. It will be specified in there, in yours and hers if it's a relative new build. Have you checked?

MzHz · 08/11/2023 07:15

@PeaceGoodMercutio stop being polite. Get the boundary plans and get a solicitor letter done and sent to her

tell her to her face that she is not to park there and to move every time she does it

yes it’s confrontation, yea it’s uncomfortable but people like her take advantage of the fact that they know it’s hard to confront,’so she thinks she’ll get away with it

go nuclear now to bring this matter to a close sooner- consider it like ripping the plaster off kind of approach

OneLittleFinger · 08/11/2023 07:31

I would be a nuisance. Keep one car parked in the bay near your house for a while (hire one if necessary) so you have to park in the other. Knock on her door every time you have to get past. Would go amiss to book a meeting at the other end of the country which means leaving at 5. Keep this up for a few weeks.

RedHelenB · 08/11/2023 07:34

I learned from my Grandad, never but a property with a shared driveway. If look at selling.

SabihaN · 08/11/2023 07:35

What's your driveway made of? If I was being really petty I'd spray paint your boundary line on it (or if you have the money, a resurfacing of the drive with an obvious border line) and give her notice that you'll charge £££ per hour for any car parked on there without authorisation, or get it towed if you can! A small camera on the back border of your parking spaces will catch who is parking there and for how long without invading their privacy. But that's just me 😁

Conkersinautumn · 08/11/2023 07:38

If she can't manoeuvre her car into there with a double space width access then she shouldn't be driving! Its a pathetic flimsy non excuse! You've spoken to her so it's time for considering a letter asserting your legal position

Viewfrommyhouse · 08/11/2023 07:43

Daffodildilys · 07/11/2023 14:30

How does anyone think you’re unreasonable?

They probably lack parking skills too..

madeinmanc · 08/11/2023 07:46

I would try an amicable but very firm chat where you make it clear that she is not to park there any longer before resorting to solicitor's letters. Have you ever lived somewhere with a boundary dispute? It is hell.

HaveSomeIntrospect · 08/11/2023 08:22

Do you really own a part of the shared access?

you should paint the part of the land that you own so she can clearly see where she is not allowed to oark