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Parking and Neighbour

116 replies

PeaceGoodMercutio · 07/11/2023 11:18

Who is being unreasonable, me or my neighbour?
The space in blue is a "shared access driveway" but part of it outlined in red is owned by us.
We park in our parking bay (23). Our neighbour (24)keeps parking where the yellow box is on my picture, which blocks access to our drive and stops us being able to get out.
She says so does this because she says she should be able to get into her drive without doing any manoeuvres (no idea what she means) and she has to be able to get up close to our back gate.
She has two spaces, and if she has a visitor she parks in the yellow rectangle. Sometimes she parks there anyway. (Sometimes her visitor parks on our drive) .
Is she allowed to park in the yellow rectangle when it blocks our private parking spaces?
Also, am I allowed to park where the pink car is or does it block her parking spaces?

OP posts:
Lou197 · 07/11/2023 12:57

Check the deeds and then a solicitors letter. We had a similar problem. It took 2 solicitors letters and it never happened again.

PuttingDownRoots · 07/11/2023 13:01

As I cant see the diagram this might be obvious...

Can you leave your drive if she parks while you are parked on yours?

LIZS · 07/11/2023 13:08

I did see the diagram and neither of you can park in the yellow or pink positions without blocking each other's right of access to the allocated bays.

2jacqi · 07/11/2023 13:12

@PeaceGoodMercutio how can anyone judge if yabr or not if you dont include a pic or drawing OP???

CacenCaws · 07/11/2023 13:13

I think the diagram has been deleted as it's possibly outing? it was there earlier

PeaceGoodMercutio · 07/11/2023 13:17

Hand drawn, not an artist.

Parking and Neighbour
OP posts:
fuzzleberry · 07/11/2023 13:22

PuttingDownRoots · 07/11/2023 13:01

As I cant see the diagram this might be obvious...

Can you leave your drive if she parks while you are parked on yours?

I can't either.. do you know why

fuzzleberry · 07/11/2023 13:23

Oh ignore me nm

PuttingDownRoots · 07/11/2023 13:26

She's being extremely lazy.

If she wanted to just drive straight she should have bought a different house.

She could park diagonally across her two spaces if parking properly was too difficult

NotObligedToArgueWithStrangers · 07/11/2023 13:27

She's totally in the wrong. I'd be tempted to let her tyres down every time 😈

TenderDandelions · 07/11/2023 13:31

I think the quickest way to deal with this will be with a solicitor's letter OP. Do you have legal cover with your home insurance?

Her decision to buy a car she can't park doesn't trump your right to access your own property.

SoupDragon · 07/11/2023 13:43

She says so does this because she says she should be able to get into her drive without doing any manoeuvres (no idea what she means) and she has to be able to get up close to our back gate.

and yet she is parking in a way that prevents you getting into/out of your bay at all.

ColleenDonaghy · 07/11/2023 13:55

I'd try keep things civil one last time. Download the deeds and go round with a bright cheery smile, "Just wanted to have a proper chat about this so we can get it sorted! You only have access rights here, so I'm afraid you're not allowed park on this bit. When you park there it stops us getting in and out so we'd really appreciate if you'd use your spots as intended. Thanks so much!" And then when she doesn't, solicitors letter.

PepeLePugh · 07/11/2023 13:56

There a couple of ways you can handle this.

Firstly, the passive aggressive approach where you insist on parking in your second bay as your primary space and go knocking on her door asking her to move every time she blocks you in. Hopefully she will quickly get fed up with it and will stop.

The other option (or if the first option didn't work) is to write a letter with a copy of your deeds and her deeds and relevant sections highlighted and remind her that you have a right of access to your spaces at all times. There is the Garden Law website that can offer useful advice regarding rights of access but before considering taking any action, check you have legal cover on your house insurance.

GardenGnomic · 07/11/2023 14:03

I have seen both diagrams - much prefer the hand- drawn one Bravo PGM. And obvs she is being CF you have the might of right and MN on your side, best of luck

redastherose · 07/11/2023 14:08

Hi OP, the shared access drive will have a clause on it in the Deeds something to the effect that you have the 'right to pass and repass' over the area hatched red on your drawing. This right does not allow you to park or remain on that land it simply allows access to and egress from your respective parking spaces.

I would go round with your deeds and speak to her in person show her the plans and show her the clause in the deed which states as above and ask her nicely not to block the accessway in the future. If she refuses to stop doing what she is doing then you may be able to contact the developer (if it is a recent development) and ask them to notify her that she is in breach of the covenant. Failing that you would need to speak to a conveyancing solicitor and ask them to write a letter to her asking her to desist.

Daffodildilys · 07/11/2023 14:30

How does anyone think you’re unreasonable?

harriethoyle · 07/11/2023 14:41

Could you park behind her OP until she gets the message to stop? A couple of times of being blocked in might focus her driving skills...

timenowplease · 07/11/2023 14:53

On my deeds the shared driveway bit is called a carriageway and you can't stop or park on a carriageway unless it's an emergency.

Her not wanting to do a three point turn is not an emergency.

ApolloandDaphne · 07/11/2023 15:05

She is being a CF. I have a big car an need to manoeuvre it on my drive. Thats just what you do.

2jacqi · 07/11/2023 15:32

@PeaceGoodMercutio so she is parking her car on your land? I would fence it in but leave a good bit for your access to get in and out. she has absolutely no right to be on your ground

Biscuitmonster2318 · 07/11/2023 15:33

Need a picture or diagram

camberlian · 07/11/2023 15:36

Biscuitmonster2318 · 07/11/2023 15:33

Need a picture or diagram

There is one

LIZS · 07/11/2023 15:37

On the original op had marked a position you park in between the red space and op house, which would restrict ndn access to parking spaces, so a bit tit-for-tat.