Trans/pride flag in children's stickers

[timeforacoffeebreak]

This was included in a pack of squishmallow stickers... why???
AIBU or is this totally wrong ??

You have described children with LGB parents. LGB families have nothing to do with the gender/trans campaign. LGB without the T is a campaign of its own. Look it up and stop mixing the too.

Woosh, that's the sound of what is really going on here flying over your head.

Inappropriate - I don’t want ideologies pushed on my kid. This doesn’t align with our values as a family so it would be removed. Some people would feel the same if it was a religious symbol. I don’t see much of a difference

The use and connection of cartoon figures (manga / animé etc) and TRA and far more sinister movements is real.

Of course there needs to be tolerance and inclusivity of people of all sexuality and gender but it is naive to deny that some people make deliberate use of this kind of imagery. It could lead children on, constantly seeing the Trans flag (under cute kitty’s chin) as fun and cuddly.

Maybe, given that the Mumsnet user base is overwhelmingly women, they are are more acutely aware of the impact of the ongoing erosion of safeguarding, single sex spaces and fairness in woman's sports. Are you really this unaware of the issues???

Interesting that so many PP have just seen the rainbow, not the actual flag under the cat’s chin.

To young children, it's just a cat and a rainbow on a sticker. Making a big deal out of it is unnecessary. Yabu.

this is a bit ridiculous- rainbows have always been part of kids toy themes. I remember collecting care bears and rainbow brite toys as a kids back in the early 80s.

What about children they go to school with who are already feeling like they don’t quite belong?
They might be girls who feel more like boys/vice versa. Or young teens who feel like they are already attracted to the same sex? (A lot of the community knew from a young age they felt different?)
Why shouldn’t a sticker for a toy show they have support out in the big bad world?
Squashmallow are just for tiny kids. They are popular with older children/younger teens too.
They have access to the internet/learning at school. They are probably already aware of what the flag means. Secondary age kids will have peer support groups in school too?

Surely the rainbow covers everyone. Are you saying that god didn't promise not to flood black people?

It's not the rainbow flag that's the issue. It's the trans flag on the cats stomach.

Thank you. I was wondering what the fuck I was missing, no, what other posters were missing with the 'it is just a rainbow' comments. No, it is very clearly a political belief flag there on the front of the cute animal.

Would people be as supportive of any other political symbol being on a sticker coming from this product? What about a religious symbol, still ok?

@TheCadoganArms
Yes this is a predominantly female space and most of us here are fully aware of the issues around trans and womens' spaces/rights but in this particular instance we are talking about a sticker with a rainbow - the child isn't aware. It's doesn't have to be anything more. Op is offended by a sticker but it should be directed towards the real issue instead.

They might be girls who feel more like boys/vice versa.

Hmmm....being a boy or a girl isn’t a feeling.

No.

The flag has been added into something happy and fun to create an association in the child's mind.

Children should be no where need the LGBT ideology. There is no need.

I have to question why adults want children involved? It's got more than a whiff of 'get them young' about it.

Agreed

Exactly, you have responded before I could.

It is telling that most of my LGB mates want absolutely nothing to do with the TQI+ mob which they see as increasingly as an angry mens movement that caters to fetishist/kinksters and autogynophiles. They are getting angry that the hard won acceptance of LGB people that has taken decades to achieve is being undone by an ideology that is homophobic, antiwoman and a danger to kids.

Say it louder for the people in the back 👏

No child is born in the wrong body. This ideology has no place near children (or vulnerable adults).

Wilful ignorance.

The progress flag is there plain as day.

Why? That's the question? Who marketed this and why do they want to market it to children?

DD went to high school at 11 and was one of the only kids in her class who didn’t declare themselves as trans/pansexual/bisexual/gay. At 13 absolutely none of them are anything but straight. Seems to be the new method of rebellion now smoking is uncool.

@WandaWonder
I see a rainbow and a cat, I wonder if people are deliberately trying to find things to have tantrums over"

Whether or not anyone is or should have tantrums about it, ignorance is not a good look. Faux or otherwise.

@TheCadoganArms My LGB friends and family members feel the same too. They'd achieved acceptance and the rainbow flag was beloved. Now its been hijacked by a group they don't want it associated with.

Why does the pride/progress/whatever the fuck flag need to include BAME people?

Pride was about people not being discriminated against because of their sexuality.

Whats being black got to do with that?