Door to door poppy collector voicing her opinion.

[CharlotteBog]

One of the people doing door to door poppy collecting posted something like this on our village FB page.

"To the lady I have knocked for five years. I won't knock again, quite clear. To the man who said he doesn't support the charity, I won't knock again."

It's in amongst the thanks and wows and stuff. I suppose a couple of people were rude to her. I don't think that's nice, but I really don't think it's good form to then slag them off on FB. What is the point? Not when you're volunteering to raise money.

She has posted anonymously, though everyone knows who it is, because there are only 2 people collecting in that part of the village and she has a very distinctive writing style.

The RBL does nowhere near enough to counteract negative/bullying behaviour connected with enforced and/or inappropriate poppy-related stuff in general I agree with this.

I also think @TeenDivided may have just been responding to a previous poster saying she wouldn't wear a poppy because she doesn't celebrate slaughter...not really moralising over the whole thing.

I may be wrong obviously!

Is she actually shaming them for not buying a poppy or for being rude?
I’ve worked for a charity and if people give a polite no I say thanks and move on. However it is surprising how many people thought it was okay to be rude and abusive to me.

That's not what the poppy represents, but I suspect you already know that.

Well said.
An uncle fought at Monte Casino in WW2 and was distraught about the death of so many civilians. He also fought in Greece and came home malnourished as the soldiers gave half their rations to the starving Greek children.
My other uncle was sent to the Middle East in 1948 and his comrade had his throat slit by an Israeli terrorist. Totally different conflicts but death and tragedy all the same.

Me neither. NO exceptions.

'Thanks for letting us all know who doesn't want to or wasn't able to hand over a donation. We don't ever want to be shamed in such a nasty manner if by chance we don't have the funds to donate or have already donated elsewhere so in future we will not be answer the door to you and will only donate directly to the British Legion.'

It represents all conflicts because the soldiers are the recipients of the money raised and I think most people do realise this.
However I don’t know anyone who seriously thinks not buying a poppy means you’re against freedom. I think they’re more likely to think not wearing a poppy is disrespectful, which I disagree with, if we fought for free choices then that should include not wearing a poppy.

No door to door charity collectors allowed where I live.

And furthermore, the people who died on the opposing sides are no more or less worthy of remembrance than the people who died fighting on 'our' side

This doesn’t make any sense to me. The people who die fighting for other armies are not really relevant to me. The British army fights for my freedom/safety etc. If someone has sacrificed their health or even their life fighting on my behalf, that act is clearly more worthy of remembrance than the act of someone fighting against my interests.

Moral relativism leads us to a point where there are no causes worth fighting for and there is no loyalty to community or country. I can’t see how a society can hold together in this situation.

@Smugandproud

My other uncle was sent to the Middle East in 1948 and his comrade had his throat slit by an Israeli terrorist. Totally different conflicts but death and tragedy all the same.

My friend's mother had one arm blown off in 1948 when a Stern Gang ('Lehi') terrorist threw a grenade into a coach carrying female British Army nurses to the ship back to the UK at the end of their tour. She had phantom pains 40 years later.

Quite common in villages.

Never been a problem here (to my knowledge)

tell her its banned by the rbl see how she replies to that

i dont give to people knockingon my door

But no one has named anyone... probably as they collect for charity they got a bit over zealous then got upset when there was push back. I'd ignore, move on. Unless you are the person being posted about it doesn't affect you.

It was shocking and yet people don’t mention it.
That poor nurse.
My uncle and his comrades slept in circular tents. He woke up one morning and the soldier next to him was dead with his throat slit. The terrorists had lifted the tent and killed him. Imagine sleeping after that?

Do that many people even use Facebook these days to be seeing sad little posts like this on random small groups?

I'd not have answered the door in the first place so frankly seeing the confirmation that she won't knock again would be a great outcome for me.

Some Afghan neighbours of ours had civilian family members killed by UK soldiers in an unprovoked attack.
As you say, it's all so tragic.

War brutalises people. It’s horrible. And yet it goes on in some part of the world every single day.

Ask if she has a licence to go door to door. She must have one from the RBL and must show it on request. That's the law, it is not optional. You can't just get a load of poppies and go round houses off your own bat. It's very tightly regulated. Even if all good she has broken rules in good fundraising practices by posting that.

I think that Facebook post definitely deserves a sarcastic 👍 if you are one of the people she's talking about

Me neither! I would not opthe door. If she slagged me off publicly for that, I would definitely complain to the British legion.

Is she shaming anyone if the post is worded as such?

Even if it's a small village isn't it likely there's more than one person she's knocked on a few times who hasn't been in, and more than one man who's said he doesn't support it? And why would anyone else know who that is?

Surely it's only shaming if those people are easily recognisable by everyone else and also that what they're doing is actually bad?!

I am very happy to support the poppy appeal but hate them coming to the door. It’s always the most inconvenient time and I always have to scrabble around d for cash.

The British Legion supports British ex-service people, lets face it most WW2 veterans are no longer with us.
Members of the armed services served our country and either did or would defend us if necessary and that's why I support the charity. If you don't agree with where they were deployed that's a political decision that you can hold politicians responsible for.

Poppies ate mot just for ww2 veterans though.