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EVERYONE is a drug dealer

465 replies

CommonOrNot · 04/11/2023 09:53

Bear with me…

I have name changed for this for seemingly obvious reasons. Yesterday, I was at the hairdressers getting my usual weekly services chatting as usual to my hairdresser - who every single week I’m there is dating a new drug dealer. She is very much a “glam” type. Neither of these things are uncommon in my city.

She then turns to the woman next to me and starts chatting about said woman’s partner and when he’s going to be on day release from prison and how he’s getting XYZ done cosmetically but it’s ok because the prison thinks he has a business so the money won’t be from dealing. (In other words, he’s still very much running an enterprise from behind bars). Again not uncommon in my area.

it got me thinking, in my city almost everyone has some sort of connection to dealing drugs. at all levels. I’m not exaggerating, I can’t think of a single person that doesn’t either deal themselves or is close friends with someone who does. All the women are dressed head to toe in designer, surgery, etc. the males have big cars, watches, designer clothes. It’s quite rare to see anyone under 30 without this aesthetic.

the 35+ generation maybe not so much but I would say all people I know in this age bracket absolutely have ties to someone who is a dealer.

before anyone comments that people may have the money for this aesthetic through legitimate reasons, I myself have a “flash” car, designer clothes, cosmetic procedures etc. but through running businesses and my partner being a well payed professional. I’m talking specifically about people that I know are dealers, and when I was thinking about it last night I was actually baffled how there seems to be so many.

PS I know there are people that work to have what they have, I’m talking about my city specifically being particularly dense with criminal activity and I’m wondering if it’s a regional thing or not. Where you are, is this the case?

OP posts:
grottyb · 04/11/2023 10:30

Even in schools, social circles tend to diverge so that the kids embroiled in drug dealing are not friends with loads of the other kids. The other kids all know who the ‘wrong ‘uns’ are - they just don’t socialise with them. And once they leave school, their lives totally diverge to the point where they no longer know any of these kind of people by name.

Except for the fact plenty of “respectable” people do have contact with these wrong uns as they use drugs…

Iheartmysmart · 04/11/2023 10:31

Hmm, I picked some tramadol up from my mum this morning to give to my sister who has sciatica. If no money changes hands then I guess I’m not actually dealing.

Flowersinthewateringcan · 04/11/2023 10:32

I honestly wouldn’t know who is dealing drugs and who isn’t but I wouldn’t knowingly associate with anyone dealing in drugs though.
I only have to look at my dsis 21 year old SS to see how they completely fuck up young people’s lives.
Drug dealers are scum.

WowIlikereallyhateyou · 04/11/2023 10:33

Diolchynfawr · 04/11/2023 09:58

I think you need to reconsider the people you hang out with 😳

This ^^

10HailMarys · 04/11/2023 10:34

CommonOrNot · 04/11/2023 10:01

I don’t hang out with them. I can guarantee if you randomly selected 20 people from any area in my city every single one of them would either be a dealer or know one. It really isn’t to do with you you hang around with.

I’m not “well known” and I wouldn’t imagine any of them know me, but I could list many off the top of my head.

Yes it is the north west

This is just nonsense.

Doggymummar · 04/11/2023 10:34

I don't know any drug dealers, I doubt anyone I know does either. Outskirts of London

JaneKatSuttonGoals · 04/11/2023 10:36

I guessed Liverpool as well from your description.
Tons of wealthy people where I live (sadly not me) none of whom I am aware involved I'm drugs. Wealth seems to be a bit more subtle than you are implying too.

SofiYol · 04/11/2023 10:36

CityCommuter · 04/11/2023 10:28

@CommonOrNot so why don't you simply name the city you live in rather than the 'north west'? You're very protective of naming this drug fuelled city for someone who claims not to be involved in drugs... You've asked everyone else where they live though...

She’s already said, she lives just outside Liverpool.

Greenberg2 · 04/11/2023 10:36

I live in London suburbs. I only know of one drug dealer (friend of a friend) and he ended up in prison. Lots of weed round here though. You smell it everywhere. I'm not in the party scene though so maybe that's why I don't know anyone.

DahliaMacNamara · 04/11/2023 10:36

I thought this post was going to be something like drugs in the water supply or giving children otc painkillers. Not literally 'everyone is a drug dealer'. How would that work?
I don't know any drug dealers. My DC know of one or two users, so I guess I could find someone who'd sell a bit of weed if I asked around. I don't imagine that leads to the kind of lifestyle OP is talking about.

IwishIdidntlikesugar · 04/11/2023 10:37

Funny that so many of us instantly thought it was Liverpool. When I went there recently I was in John Lewis and was amazed at how busy the beauty department was - all of the brands actually staffed by people unlike other branches where you have to sometimes wander round looking for someone to help you. But also, what are you doing in a hairdressers every week??

MaudGone · 04/11/2023 10:38

Haven't read beyond the opening post, but I'm guessing this is Liverpool?

XiCi · 04/11/2023 10:38

I love the way the OP has already said she doesn't live in Liverpool but it immediately became a Liverpool bashing thread. It's constant on here 🙄

OP I've lived in Manchester, London, Liverpool and Edinburgh and I don't recognise what you describe. It's the social circles that you are in, it's normalised within them and you're a part of it. For them to be openly discussing with you that they are dating a dealer means they recognise you are part of this circle.

Highlyflavouredgravy · 04/11/2023 10:39

My family are from Liverpool. None of them look like that. None of them are drug dealers. You need think about the company you keep.

PrinceHaz · 04/11/2023 10:40

I live in Salford. I’ve never met a drug dealer (to my knowledge) and never heard a drug deal taking place.

Doopydoo · 04/11/2023 10:40

TheShellBeach · 04/11/2023 10:20

Ah well, that's where you're going wrong.
You need to start dealing drugs.
Grin

This made me laugh so much 😂😂

theheadband · 04/11/2023 10:40

I understand what you're saying. Ive never done drugs but if i wanted to, i could think of 6/7 people off the top of my head who could get me in contact with a dealer or a runner. My friends brother was a high level dealer and sold his phone for 8k because he had so many 'customers' and everyone was bidding for his phone as they knew how much money they'd make from having that number.

NugatoryMatters · 04/11/2023 10:40

but you never know. These posh places have all sorts of secrets.

Well, yes.

Someone i know through voluntary activity is a pharmacist in a very nice market town. The rates of prescription opiod addiction he sees are hair raising. It’s largely hidden from view.

But, it’s also the case that if everyone is assuming you must be involved in or associated with the drug trade like them, you are most definitely 1. Choosing to hang out with people like that and 2. Sending clear signals to them that you are one of them.

I know what the breastfeeding rates are in my local area. But somehow every single woman I have made friends with since having DS3 has breastfed their children, even well beyond 6 months (to the point that they breastfeed their 9 month olds in cafes while we are out). I could generalise from that to decide that breastfeeding is the norm here. But I know it’s not. Statistically it very much is not. It’s just that the social circle I have accumulated by attending baby classes are wildly unrepresentative of the population as a whole. Other people (probably far more people) will know no one who breastfed their children at all. (There’s no value judgement in this, btw. I just think it’s fascinating how absolutely unrepresentative the women in my ‘baby group’ social circle are).

In the OP’s case, it probably reasonable to make a value judgement. If I found myself surrounded by people involved in drug dealing and who assumed I must be too… I’d be looking very hard at the company I keep and making changes.

Firebug007 · 04/11/2023 10:40

TeenLifeMum · 04/11/2023 09:59

Maybe hang out in better places? According to our town fb page the town is “full of drug dealers” but I’ve never met one. I don’t hang out in those kind of places.

I'll bet you've met loads 🤣😆

BogHag · 04/11/2023 10:40

This thread has given 70 people the opportunity to look down their noses and sniffily imply that the only explanation for OP having had passing encounters with drug dealers is because she must be some variety of scumbag herself, in desperate need of new friends, a new city, and entirely new life in fact, since she’s so tainted by association. Mumsnet is so hilariously terrible.

XiCi · 04/11/2023 10:40

SofiYol · 04/11/2023 10:36

She’s already said, she lives just outside Liverpool.

She said she lives in a city in the NW not far from Liverpool so guessing Manchester or Chester

JamSandle · 04/11/2023 10:41

Lots of very naive people on this thread. Drugs are used by people from all stratas of society, not just homeless people and the typical scruffy addict.

A friend of mine works in media and another in banking and says a lot of colleagues are on coke.

You will often get a waft of weed around London.

The CEO at my workplace takes MDMA and coke (don't ask how I know).

A lot of outwardly respectable people use drugs. It doesn't mean you keep bad company if you know of people who use.

CityCommuter · 04/11/2023 10:41

@SofiYol the OP actually said 'I'm not far from Liverpool' so it's not Liverpool!

therealcookiemonster · 04/11/2023 10:41

do you live in Gotham city?

Wwwnothingdotcom · 04/11/2023 10:42

Kirkby was always bit. Ehm.
My first thought was Bootle though