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EVERYONE is a drug dealer

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CommonOrNot · 04/11/2023 09:53

Bear with me…

I have name changed for this for seemingly obvious reasons. Yesterday, I was at the hairdressers getting my usual weekly services chatting as usual to my hairdresser - who every single week I’m there is dating a new drug dealer. She is very much a “glam” type. Neither of these things are uncommon in my city.

She then turns to the woman next to me and starts chatting about said woman’s partner and when he’s going to be on day release from prison and how he’s getting XYZ done cosmetically but it’s ok because the prison thinks he has a business so the money won’t be from dealing. (In other words, he’s still very much running an enterprise from behind bars). Again not uncommon in my area.

it got me thinking, in my city almost everyone has some sort of connection to dealing drugs. at all levels. I’m not exaggerating, I can’t think of a single person that doesn’t either deal themselves or is close friends with someone who does. All the women are dressed head to toe in designer, surgery, etc. the males have big cars, watches, designer clothes. It’s quite rare to see anyone under 30 without this aesthetic.

the 35+ generation maybe not so much but I would say all people I know in this age bracket absolutely have ties to someone who is a dealer.

before anyone comments that people may have the money for this aesthetic through legitimate reasons, I myself have a “flash” car, designer clothes, cosmetic procedures etc. but through running businesses and my partner being a well payed professional. I’m talking specifically about people that I know are dealers, and when I was thinking about it last night I was actually baffled how there seems to be so many.

PS I know there are people that work to have what they have, I’m talking about my city specifically being particularly dense with criminal activity and I’m wondering if it’s a regional thing or not. Where you are, is this the case?

OP posts:
Natsku · 04/11/2023 13:38

The only drug dealer I know personally isn't flashy at all, and also works a legit job building log cabins.

I was in a school (post-16 kind of school) auditorium yesterday and someone had scratched into my pull out desk a phone number with drug dealer written underneath, so I guess I could know another one if I gave the number a call...

Bendysnap · 04/11/2023 13:39

The only drug dealers I’ve heard of are the student ones at my DC’s private school. No adults I know or associate with are drug dealers. My friends have a bling lifestyle but that’s because they (or their spouses) work in financial services in London and earn millions of pounds that way.

PabloandGustheGreySquirrels · 04/11/2023 13:39

You go to the hairdressers every week ?!?!???!

MasterBeth · 04/11/2023 13:41

"Everyone I know is a drug dealer" has nothing to do with city you live in and everything to do with the people you mix with.

PabloandGustheGreySquirrels · 04/11/2023 13:41

Thank GOD I'm not vein enough to desire surgery and orange skin to feel confident. I would never, ever, associate with shallow people like that, never mind drug dealers!

Nobody I know or have ever known is anything close to being a drug dealer!

PabloandGustheGreySquirrels · 04/11/2023 13:47

MasterBeth · 04/11/2023 13:41

"Everyone I know is a drug dealer" has nothing to do with city you live in and everything to do with the people you mix with.

This! Although I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if it's somewhere like Skelmersdale or Scumsdale as it's known

ClairDeLaLune · 04/11/2023 13:50

NotSuchASmugMarried · 04/11/2023 09:59

What City?

It's definately the company you keep.

Have you thought about joining the Rotary Club - probably no drug dealers there.

Sanatogen maybe?

Gingefringe · 04/11/2023 13:52

I would change hairdressers as it's likely being used to launder money if she's dating drug dealers.

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 04/11/2023 13:53

Stroopwaffels · 04/11/2023 13:18

I can imagine the experience, but I do find it hard to comprehend having so much disposable income that I could spend it on having my hair washed when I can do it myself

I find going to the hairdresser the most tedious experience ever. Sitting there while someone faffs with your hair, offers you cups of coffee and shit magazines, and talks about their druggie boyfriend or where you're going on holiday. The whole concept of "pampering" makes me want to run away screaming. Not a money issue, just a "I have so many more things i'd rather be doing" thing.

I love pampering.

But my idea of pampering simply isn’t the hairdresser.

But I see my massage therapist about twice a month (sometimes every week. Sometimes a little less frequently).

Those 45 minutes are pure bliss in my opinion.

HideTheCroissants · 04/11/2023 13:56

I live in SE London and don’t know any drug dealers. I don’t know where to go IF I suddenly felt the need to purchase recreational drugs. I don’t knowingly mix with any drug users and when I did find out some “friends” that were part of that sort of set I simply distanced myself and quietly dropped them from my friendship group.

Mooted · 04/11/2023 13:57

@HJ40 as if you would 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 04/11/2023 13:57

CommonOrNot · 04/11/2023 10:23

Well quite. But I think this may be due to the fact it’s so common where I am. For example, if I get chatting to somebody and they ask what my partner does for a living, it’s often met with an “oh?” As it’s a very professional job.

where I am It’s very very assumed that if you’re young and have nice things then you’re up to something. That is the long and short of it

Everyone surely can’t be.

that wouldn’t make sense from a supply and demand point of view.

Hijohn · 04/11/2023 13:58

It’s nice how they sound proud of it. Proud of what exactly. Superficial shit, Botox to look like a new potato with trout lips, yeah not glamour. Cars? Who cares if you can get nicked at any point. Money directly from misery as well. Misery money. For what. To inject your ugly faces. You can’t inject your ugly soul. No Botox for that.

Itsokay2020 · 04/11/2023 13:59

I immediately thought north west too. Having watched The Detectives on BBC, seeing how the OCG’s operate, the absolute mayhem
they cause, the harm, the recruitment of young kids… It reminded me again why I have zero tolerance of drugs, users and anyone associated with it. I grew up close to where the Rettendon murders took place, the death of Leah Betts and the rave scene of the 1990’s. I saw things I cannot erase from my memory and it’s really sad that in some areas, like the OP has mentioned, it’s seen as normal and acceptable. I couldn’t live in an area like that, I’d have to move.

BlueGrey1 · 04/11/2023 14:00

@CommonOrNot
This made me laugh. My social circles are doctors, dentists, media agents, lawyers, engineers and architects. Every single one has either knows a dealer or has one in their family

I very much doubt this, as people have already said, if there are that many very wealthy drug dealers who exactly are they selling to, makes no sense.
I live in Dublin and don’t know any ( I’m a professional) I’m sure there are some about in certain parts of Dublin but I don’t associate or have any connection to these people, it sounds like you originally came from an area where this behaviour is common so still have some connection / hear everything that is going on. Is your hairdressers located in one of these areas.
Also if someone I did happen to know knew someone who was dealing, I can assure you they wouldn’t be boasting about it/ mentioning it, they are not that sort of people.
Same goes for knowing people who did time, some people depending on the area that they live in / come from know loads of people who have been in jail, others don’t know any

Maray1967 · 04/11/2023 14:01

Dumbo18 · 04/11/2023 13:05

I’m South Liverpool and can honestly say I easily know 10/15 drug dealers, from people I went to school with, family friends and neighbours, you wouldn’t know what they done unless you knew them, saying that most people don’t make it a secret anymore. The city is rife for it… still the best city in my biased opinion 😂

I didn’t go to school here - maybe that’s the difference? I only know neighbours, colleagues, school parents and church folks - not prime dealer population I suppose!

Hijohn · 04/11/2023 14:01

its not just Liverpool is it. Liverpool is pretty cleaned up now anyway. Still some issues.

Fionaville · 04/11/2023 14:03

So it's not actually Liverpool at all? Yet you have a thread full of people assuming it is.
I live outside of Liverpool and don't know any drug dealers. I know a lot of people, so could get some if I asked around, but don't know any personally. I'm neither old or a pearl clutcher. I just don't know any.

WearingTheHardHat · 04/11/2023 14:08

Clearly only a few are dealers otherwise they'd have nobody to sell to!

I went once a week for a blow-dry when I worked in London a couple of years ago - it was a fraction of what people spent on gym memberships, phones etc etc. Now I'm not in London I barely bother to dry it myself - covid has made ma slob. So - no judgement from me!

At various points in my life I've known lots of people who are dealers or have dealers. Now I'm really removed from that it's hard to think of it as real. It still exists, massively, but important to remember your own circle is not the world. There was a point where I could say 'I don't know anyone of my friends who hasn't done coke'. Ten years later I'm at a point where I can say 'I don't know any people who do drugs at all'.

Sallyingon · 04/11/2023 14:08

I live in a small north west town and I know drug dealers. We are not friends or related but I know who they are. It's a real issue round here.

LuluBlakey1 · 04/11/2023 14:09

OP- do you live in the Liverpool area?

LuluBlakey1 · 04/11/2023 14:14

I'm not award of any drug-dealers that I or friends/family know of - North-East coast near Newcastle. I'm sure they exist in the rough bits of North Shields and Wallsend which are a few miles from us but I'm not aware of any personally.

User135644 · 04/11/2023 14:16

Until drugs are legalised, taxed and regulated to get it out the hands of organised crime then this will always be the case.

Fionaville · 04/11/2023 14:18

PabloandGustheGreySquirrels · 04/11/2023 13:47

This! Although I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if it's somewhere like Skelmersdale or Scumsdale as it's known

Spoken like somebody with massive chip on their shoulder.
I know people from Skelmersdale and I would never call it that. Have a bit of class.

Buttercups3926 · 04/11/2023 14:18

I live in the Midlands, 30 years old and yes I know drug dealers. They are from school or people through association. Me and DH have a broad social circle , he knows people at his workplace who associate with drug dealers. I would say we are middle class, but we know someone who works as a runner in our family. You can choose your friends but not your family!!

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