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EVERYONE is a drug dealer

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CommonOrNot · 04/11/2023 09:53

Bear with me…

I have name changed for this for seemingly obvious reasons. Yesterday, I was at the hairdressers getting my usual weekly services chatting as usual to my hairdresser - who every single week I’m there is dating a new drug dealer. She is very much a “glam” type. Neither of these things are uncommon in my city.

She then turns to the woman next to me and starts chatting about said woman’s partner and when he’s going to be on day release from prison and how he’s getting XYZ done cosmetically but it’s ok because the prison thinks he has a business so the money won’t be from dealing. (In other words, he’s still very much running an enterprise from behind bars). Again not uncommon in my area.

it got me thinking, in my city almost everyone has some sort of connection to dealing drugs. at all levels. I’m not exaggerating, I can’t think of a single person that doesn’t either deal themselves or is close friends with someone who does. All the women are dressed head to toe in designer, surgery, etc. the males have big cars, watches, designer clothes. It’s quite rare to see anyone under 30 without this aesthetic.

the 35+ generation maybe not so much but I would say all people I know in this age bracket absolutely have ties to someone who is a dealer.

before anyone comments that people may have the money for this aesthetic through legitimate reasons, I myself have a “flash” car, designer clothes, cosmetic procedures etc. but through running businesses and my partner being a well payed professional. I’m talking specifically about people that I know are dealers, and when I was thinking about it last night I was actually baffled how there seems to be so many.

PS I know there are people that work to have what they have, I’m talking about my city specifically being particularly dense with criminal activity and I’m wondering if it’s a regional thing or not. Where you are, is this the case?

OP posts:
Bloom15 · 04/11/2023 11:49

ChelseeDagger · 04/11/2023 11:07

I live in the North West. Not Liverpool but a leafy suburb of Merseyside.

Most of the hairdressers are money laundering for their partners drug business.
Most of them also do aesthetics.
I have a drug dealer living in my road, he is discrete but we all know what he does.

Most people in a certain circle do coke at the weekends.

This is by no means the majority of people in my area, but a notable subset.

I don't know any of them personally but hear about this through acquaintances and its really quite common.

Edited

Seriously?!

I don't go to that type of hairdresser though 🤷🏼‍♀️

happyhippiehippo · 04/11/2023 11:49

Living in London for 25+ years, also lived aborad. I'm in my mid 50s and I've NEVER been offered drugs (though I know friends who used to do drugs - very surprised if they still do it - when they were in their 20s).

ChelseeDagger · 04/11/2023 11:50

TedWilson · 04/11/2023 11:45

I'm assuming you're in Liverpool but there is a lot of lovely people too! Get off Country Road 🤣

I'm in Hoylake and there are more people obviously dealing drugs here than you would find on County Road, Mark my words.

ChelseeDagger · 04/11/2023 11:51

Bloom15 · 04/11/2023 11:49

Seriously?!

I don't go to that type of hairdresser though 🤷🏼‍♀️

Nor do I, sadly that doesn't prevent them from existing.

viques · 04/11/2023 11:52

If everyone in the area is drug dealing who are they selling to? Sounds like a MLM scheme that has devoured all its potential customers and imploded.

housethatbuiltme · 04/11/2023 11:53

I dated a low end dealer (of a few self grown weed plants in his wardrobe) at 17. I know a few stoners (old friends from my teens) but no at 35 year old mother I don't know any dealers. I'm sure they exist (I live in a poor and rough area) I just don't bump into them on the school run or shopping in Asda.

It's definitely not so much 'normal' but rather your circle.

PosterBoy · 04/11/2023 11:55

viques · 04/11/2023 11:52

If everyone in the area is drug dealing who are they selling to? Sounds like a MLM scheme that has devoured all its potential customers and imploded.

The bigger ones live outside the main conurbations and sell inside/between cities. I don't think op is talking about the street corner dealers.

Vanillatablet · 04/11/2023 11:55

When I did drugs myself I saw them everywhere. I thought everyone did them. When I stopped doing them and moved to a different area, I never met anyone who did drugs in the new area. So before I would have said everyone did drugs or was connected to dealer, now I could say that nobody does drugs or is connected to a dealer. Neither is true, but it's about the circles you run in. I do occasionally over hear conversations or smell whiffs of cannabis, that's about it. They are just not part of my world.

Cognacsoft · 04/11/2023 11:56

I never knew any drug dealers until I moved to the NW.
However my dc who want to a very nice school in a smart Yorkshire town used to laugh at my naivety.
More problematic is the woman from the local church which my dm attends, she thinks it’s ok to give an 86 year old woman spare tramadol.
I finally found the woman’s number and rang asking her to stop as dm is mixing prescription drugs with the tramadol. My dm is less confused since we stopped her friendly drug supplier!

TimeForACider · 04/11/2023 11:57

I only know one drug dealer. I think he’s stopped now after he got sent to prison and got a bit of a shock.

SweetBirdsong · 04/11/2023 11:58

Vanillatablet · 04/11/2023 11:55

When I did drugs myself I saw them everywhere. I thought everyone did them. When I stopped doing them and moved to a different area, I never met anyone who did drugs in the new area. So before I would have said everyone did drugs or was connected to dealer, now I could say that nobody does drugs or is connected to a dealer. Neither is true, but it's about the circles you run in. I do occasionally over hear conversations or smell whiffs of cannabis, that's about it. They are just not part of my world.

Exactly this.

The title of this thread is batshit. 😆 'Everyone is a drug dealer?' WTF? 😂

ManAboutTown · 04/11/2023 11:59

Money laundering - 'Turkish barbers that only accept cash, chicken shops, kebab and curry houses, nail bars. It's rife and the pathetic idiots that run our police seem blind to it.

Milkybarsareonmeeeee · 04/11/2023 12:00

I lived in an area and everyone was doing drugs and keeping it from each other ( I don’t do drugs ) it was kept from me for a while when I found out I made sure not to be around that circle ( very difficult ) semi rural
Turns out the worker at school and her professor husband were doing them too.
i use to stand and think when at school Collection was there anyone not on it. .
My point is a huge amount of people are on drugs these days they just don’t tell you .
This also means there are plenty people needed to sell those drugs .
I think it’s unfair to think someone knowingly associates with people who take drugs .

Also another example .
My old hairdresser (?owned business ) ( ex lecturer) married . Her and dh tooke them, this is all people looking in you wouldn’t say they were “the sort “
Id say where money is there is drugs .
They certainly aren’t reserved for the less wealthy .
Infant I’d just say they are everywhere

MikeRafone · 04/11/2023 12:01

My social circles are doctors, dentists, media agents, lawyers, engineers and architects. Every single one has either knows a dealer or has one in their family.

These doctors, dentist, media agents, lawyers, engineers and architects need a supply, so who better than family. Its an industry worth around £10bn a year double what it was worth 20 years ago and mostly organised by the Albanian mafia.

I know people in the NW who are working in this industry and don't live there, though there lifestyle doesn't seem to add up to glamour as OP is stating

even in the little sleepy town I'm in I know who has been caught with drug money, even though they weren't a dealer they were moving money and sent down. Cost of living crisis makes people more vulnerable to other avenues to make money

CoffeeCantata · 04/11/2023 12:01

I don't know any drug dealers or anyone who takes drugs. I've never been close to anyone who takes drugs, even when I was young. I think it's a total mugs' game to take them and people who deal them are beneath contempt. They might be rolling in money but I bet they have horrible, trashy taste which I wouldn't envy!!!!!

And no, I'm not being naive - I often wonder where all the masses of drug takers and dealers are - certainly not in my acquaintance.

Peachonthebeach · 04/11/2023 12:01

It does depend a lot on where you live . In an ex mining village where I spent some time growing up , it was exactly the same without the glamour. It would have been difficult to find a family that hadn’t been blighted by drugs in some way, and it was heroin rather than cocaine. It was like the film trainspotting. So I don’t find it hard to believe that there are places like this now, even if the drugs have changed.

anniegun · 04/11/2023 12:04

Never met a drug dealer in our town

RudsyFarmer · 04/11/2023 12:05

I’ll be honest. If I lived in a city where most people were drug dealers, I would move. The thought of my kids getting caught up in it if it’s as normal and wide spread as you say, would be high.

SpidersAreShitheads · 04/11/2023 12:07

CommonOrNot · 04/11/2023 11:26

I won’t wash my own hair for multiple reasons. It only needs washing once a week, twice if it’s had a particularly large amount of product in. That’s why I go.

thank you to all who have replied with intellect rather than Pearl clutching and accusing me of “hanging around” with certain people. Your views are much appreciated and it’s interesting to have insight on other areas of the country. It does seem to be a regional thing as I suspected.

Honestly, my mind is blown over this comment! You won’t wash your own hair?? I understand why some folk enjoy a regular blow dry at the hairdresser, but I’m genuinely staggered that someone wouldn’t ever be willing to wash their own hair.

Not ever?

Do you wear a swimming hat if you go swimming? Or what about when you go to the beach and have a splash around in the sea?

Or if you’re unwell and poorly at home for a week or so, and have been lying in bed all sweaty and unwell?

Literally, you never wash your own hair??

For clarity, I’m not being bitchy or judgy. I’m autistic and often get things wrong so really I’m just fascinated that this is apparently a common thing! I had no idea.

(sorry, I realise this isn’t what the thread is about! Re the actual drug question, no, not here - but I’m in an older age bracket to the OP so my answer probably isn’t relevant)

Saltyswee · 04/11/2023 12:09

I don’t know any.

But…. I do wonder where people under 35 are getting their money. Armani shop etc queued out the door with young people. Thought it was only fans if I’m honest 😹

Newtonianmechanics · 04/11/2023 12:10

I didn't know any dealers and lived a simple life until about 3 years ago.
Since becoming a safeguard at school my eyes have been opened. I have been surprised at the amount of kids that do use and bulk buy to deal.

I mean it's obviously not everyone but a significant minority. I can't believe how ignorant I actually was.

Dontcallmescarface · 04/11/2023 12:11

I can’t think of a single person that doesn’t either deal themselves or is close friends with someone who does.

So how much are you selling yours for?

Southener · 04/11/2023 12:11

Lots of judgy 'must be the company you keep' comments on here. My perspective is a little different.

Since I moved to the South Coast (in a not particularly well-off area), I've never known so many people who have been to prison/involved with drug dealing/have links with organised crime. It's not like these people are my mates, but if you open your eyes and ears, and are friendly and chatty (like me), you don't have to scratch very deep to hear all about it.

I live a relatively boring, middle-age life. I work a decent job, and I'm not interested in drugs. But I honestly think I could get anything I wanted if I asked the right people.

Just because you haven't seen it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You probably haven't noticed.

Lilacanemone · 04/11/2023 12:13

I would think it’s odd to not know anyone that doesn’t do it or is close friends with someone who does. Also very odd that they all openly talk about it.