AIBU to think it's unfair same sex couples can get IVF on the NHS but not single women?

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https://news.sky.com/story/fertility-inequality-how-single-women-are-facing-ivf-discrimination-and-financial-strain-12996293

'Having a child is not a right ' WOW ! Is this from a person who ... has children / doesn't want them ?

Well I couldn’t have children due to fertility issues, but I’ve never believed I had any sort of right to a child.

Single Women should not have IVF treatment full stop. Just because we have the technology to do it morally it is wrong.

Yes , that's what I said . If they are funded by the NHS then this again is not life threatening the same as IVF .

In these days of a collapsing NHS I'm not sure it should be free for anyone.

Are we really comparing arthritis - an extremely painful and activity limiting condition - to single women who want a baby but want to deny the biological reality of human reproduction?

Fuck me. No wonder disability rights and discrimination are right at the bottom of the DEI heap these days.

Agreed. There just isn't enough cash to go round and there are waiting lists with people who have really impactful health conditions unable to go about their daily lives.
I'd love that everyone got what they wanted from an IVF perspective but in a world of limited resources we have to prioritise and I am afraid I prioritise other things

If it can be argued that not having a child could create mental health issues which may life threatening, as some folk suggest, then it could be argued that having obvious issues with your breasts (far too big for frame, clearly uneven sizes, lack of one or both due to other surgery etc) could also create mental health issues which could be life threatening!

Am I right in thinking the NHS does not fund vasectomy reversals?

I completely agree.
People say that 'you don't know what it's like being infertile so therefore cannot judge', yet I wonder if these same people have any idea what it's like living with the physical and emotional impact of a condition like arthritis!?

I agree that women who want to kill themselves because they can’t have a child need help. Just not necessarily IVF treatment.

Threats of suicide to insist on the right to NHS treatment are deeply problematic.

The NHS should provide better MH treatment. That’s the correct approach to this stuff.

But people may be so upset about infertility that they commit suicide is deeply manipulative and problematic logic.

You're not allowed to have this opinion on here. I partial agree with you anyway.

Yes you can compare it because in this country a lot of women still only get diagnosed with it (and pcos and hashimotos and jfc often even STDs like chlymedis and HIV)during fertility investigations because the NHS is crap. Just the presence of RH factor and antibodies is enough to cause sub-fertility - it can be mitigated if caught early enough but if women are only getting diagnosed when they ttc it’s often too late by then.

Generally because the second parent isn't pulling their weight.

I wasn't suggesting it was.
My point is that some are justifying free IVF by saying it could be life threatening (due to complex issues), but so could a lot of things!

Thats what I thought. You need a long evidenced time of having tried to get pregnant and proven infertility issues.

No. This is so insanely selfish, if you don’t have fertility issues. Have sex, why should you punt the cost of making a child when there’s nothing wrong with your fertility!

Look NHS is struggling to perform lifesaving operations.
Waiting lists are so long people are dying.
I don’t think IVF should even be on the NHS.

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I understand what you are saying but I believe it is classed as a human right by Geneva though. I think!

I agree and was really trying to point out that potential MH/risk of life isn't really a great argument for free IVF (or some other conditions).

Any condition can lead to MH issues, but that doesn't mean we have to start providing solutions to every issue (especially when funds are limited).

As well as supporting IVF/fertility options there needs to be more access to support in terms of accepting that you might not ever be able to have a child of your own (even if you do access IVF, because it isn't guaranteed).

But if you read the article it says that lesbian couples will have IUI or artificial insemination funded for them, but single women won't. That was my point.

No a single person should save up and pay private for that

Isn't it better to provide it rather than having to fund the resulting mental health issues instead?

@KimberleyClark you are correct the NHS does not fund vasectomy reversals