We shouldn’t be letting off fireworks while innocent families and their homes are being blown up

[Banfire]

“When the F-16s come, it is really scary and traumatic. You hear them and then the hiss of the missile and then the big blast, and then you can smell the gunpowder.
“The children are there, terrified, saying exactly this: ‘Let them just kill us for this to end.’

The quote above is an excerpt from an article in the Guardian this morning.

Is it just me or does it seem insensitive that on the 5th November, and for many days either side, we will be lighting up our sky for fun while innocent people, a large proportion of whom are children, are being blown up as if their lives meant nothing.

There are also people in this country who may find the sound and noise of fireworks traumatic. They may have been victims of war, have lost loved ones in this way or are currently fearing for the lives of their families and friends.

Fireworks aren’t fun for everyone.

If you do chose to let off fireworks for entertainment then when you watch them I hope you remember how privileged you are and the impact this might have on the people around you.

Well of course it isn't celebrated in other countries, why would it be?

It really isn't.
Calling someone a misery guts is quite patronising in itself.

Don’t use someone else’s suffering to push your own agenda, OP. It isn’t becoming of you.

It doesn't have to be, but it usually is. If you criticise Israel in a way that you don't criticise any other country, best examine your motivations.

For example, if you haven't thought of doing anything symbolic in order to share the suffering of the Uyghur Muslims in China, don't suddenly discover your conscience when it comes to Gaza.

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@RealOP yes I was being slightly sarcastic because that's always the line that's trotted out, often along with other statements that I would say are antisemitic. Yeah, no one seems to care that Assad has murdered over half a million of his own citizens, or that Kim Jong Un lets them starve while he puts on festivities, tests nuclear capacity and indeed no doubt fireworks...nothing to see there.

Question things by all means but you have to be prepared for answers you may not like and tolerate them. Bonfire night ban in Sussex for instance probably not going to happen anytime soon considering this year there are no trains/buses in and out of Lewes due to the numbers coming to the event last year. Local authorities have declared it for locals only.

Because it is an English cultural tradition.

Where do you draw the line, no Halloween as bloody costumes, no Christmas as really just excessive consumerism whilst people starve. Could say the same about most other holidays and birthdays.

Apologies thought I read is not isn't

I don't think that fireworks in the uk will have any impact on the people of Gaza, but I do feel sorry for the birds and other wildlife. I don't think that fireworks should be available for the general public to buy in shops. Should be licensed displays only.

In my area, fucking idiots are setting off fireworks already. I even saw some kids with some the other day.

FFS.

I agree with your DH this is just someone that is privileged enough to have never lived through any of it telling victims how they should they should feel about fireworks. If op doesn’t like them that’s fine but don’t use victims of war as a way of getting your point across that just seems wrong to me.

As precious as it sounds I nearly vomited thinking about things we've seen on the news.

Oh FFS no you didn't.

Really! I am a Scottish Roman Catholic.
My family have always celebrated Bonfire Night along with my neighbours.
When I was little you would see young kids sitting at stations etc. Asking for 'a penny for the guy'. They used these pennies to buy sparklers.
My Granny met my Grandad at a Bonfire Night in their local town.

We also celebrate Halloween (they use to carve turnips in the old days) , Divali, St Andrews Night, Christmas, Hogmanay, New Years Day and Burns Night in the long dark days of winter.

It is sociable and fun.

YABVU
Yes, I believe there is a case for banning the sale of fireworks to the general public anyway, but that has nothing at all to do with the atrocities being committed in other countries.

By your logic, lets just ban Xmas too, as there will be children who would love nothing more than to opening gifts on Xmas day, and not fleeing for their lives.

Virtue signalling rubbish springs to mind.

No, you can eat your shepherd's pie but don't you dare enjoy it. With every mouthful you must remind yourself how lucky and privileged you are to be eating it.

Shepherd's pie!, how very dare you eat meat, vegan or die, surely

@Rincol>'Speaking as someone who actually has PTSD, I'm personally fucked off at being dragged into the whole thing by morons who want to perpetuate the stereotype of PTSD survivors hiding behind sofas when they hear a bang. It's reductive, inaccurate, insulting and self serving.'

Because some people/animals really are frightened by loud bangs happening out of the blue; they don't have to be suffering from PTSD.

Wow. What a lot of name calling and swearing.

Thanks for the intellectual debate.

Debate?? 😂 It's mumsnet!

A time wasting website. And you posted in AIBU.

Give us a heads up when the intellectual debate starts dear.

Unless you're setting off fireworks in someone's house it shouldn't be a problem. If you are, then yes, you are being unreasonable.

You've got a nerve. You haven't entered into any kind of debate.

And yes, you can swear and still have an intellectual argument.

Y'know there's a lot of truth to this. The more I think about it the more I realise just how much in common OP has with Oliver Cromwell ! 💥💥💥.