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WTF has happened to Mumsnet?

267 replies

Humblebottomous · 29/10/2023 08:45

First we had troll posts, then massive influx of posters from the US (frankly I found it annoying negotiating the different reference points) and now all these ridiculous AI threads which seem to consist of long winded posts about non-problems.

I’ve been on and off MN for years but does anyone else feel it really has had it’s day.

OP posts:
SerendipityJane · 29/10/2023 11:05

mn29 · 29/10/2023 11:03

The current way of numbering school years in England has been used since 1989/90 I believe- the 1988 education reform act. So it’s very much the norm now and widely understood by anyone who went to school during/since that time and/or had children at school in the last 35 years.

Edited

Yeah, well I was giving my age away, clearly.

But even at the time it was odd. Probably because my borough did away with the 11+ and went comprehensive. Which I thank fuck for as it got a shed load of people into university who otherwise would never have fulfilled their potential.

AutumnCrow · 29/10/2023 11:06

TooBigForMyBoots · 29/10/2023 10:59

Everyone knows Americans aren't real. They're just a story device, that's why you only see them in films and on TV.

And they all work for the police or are lawyers.

marmiteandminticecream · 29/10/2023 11:07

i agree it isn't as lighthearted as it use to be
i use to come on here for a laugh at the funny threads after a shit day , it's all doom and gloom now
i remember a thread years ago where the op said she came home to find her husband pleasuring himself with the metal utensils from the kitchen (obviously a wind up)but the replies she got was funny . telling her to have a date night and wrap herself up in tin foil
these days she'd be told to LTB

FoxClocks · 29/10/2023 11:10

This is not the problem I have with MN; trolls have been with us for years and it wouldn't be quite the same without them and their crazy antics, I quite like Americans and the AI is just a new form of trolling. I do think there is less humour and when you get a funny thread people leap on it so much it feels a bit OTT. The main thing I notice is its got a bit meaner, maybe it's the times being tougher IDK.

Dweetfidilove · 29/10/2023 11:14

FlorenceBoot · 29/10/2023 09:02

Americans are most welcome!

I scroll through Active Convos and struggle to find anything of interest.

Lots of bots.

Irritated by the "Me (f32) and partner (m35)" posts - get back to Reddit!

Yes to the mostly uninteresting posts 😊.

I haven’t figured out the bot threads yet, so off to investigate.

OneTC · 29/10/2023 11:17

No trolling = no Mumsnet.

Mumsnet was founded on trolling, huge amounts of classic posts are obviously the work of trolls.

I originally found Mumsnet coming from another website that trolls Mumsnet and links the posts on that forum. The ultimate prize is getting into classics.

It's been going on for years

OneTC · 29/10/2023 11:25

"After a couple of lonely years spent busily posting comments under multiple names to create the illusion of activity, something remarkable happened: the phenomenon that is Mumsnet began to stir into life"

Justine Roberts CEO Mumsnet

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/mar/21/mumsnet-my-fifth-child-is-turning-15

No trolling, no Mumsnet

Mumsnet co-founder reflects on growth of her 'fifth child'

It’s 15 years since parenting website Mumsnet started up. Justine Roberts looks back on its development from infancy to robust teens

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/mar/21/mumsnet-my-fifth-child-is-turning-15

VapeHelp · 29/10/2023 11:26

”Yes Americans use the English language but that’s about all we share as far I’m concerned”

Really? What about the fact we’re all people with the same life problems and emotions? The same issues with money or work? Or pregnancy or kids or partners?

Everyone should feel welcome here, the people I have the biggest issue is with the snidey, bitter, (mainly) women out to drag everyone down to their level of misery.

pikkumyy77 · 29/10/2023 11:40

The anti Americanism here is really odd. Our chocolate, at least the local artisanal chocolate, is as good as European chocolate and significantly better than the British chocolate Ive eaten when in the UK.—and I’ve been in and out of the UK since 1975 so I don’t think its a post brexit chocolate decline. Our wines can also be quite good. But these complaints and put downs are just a kind of ritual place marking for some posters. It doesn’t bother me and I’m American.

I read and post here BECAUSE if the cultural differences in outlook on shared issues (family, conflict, inheritance, parking (!), gardens, relationships etc…) I’m a former anthropologist turned therapist and I am fascinated by how differently the same issues are handled and the understanding cultural themes in people’s posts and comments.

Loubelle70 · 29/10/2023 11:40

Pipistrellus · 29/10/2023 11:02

When was this? I remember being in year one the year I turned 5 then year one again when I think the system was standardised.

Thats how it was geez 😒

Pipistrellus · 29/10/2023 11:50

Loubelle70 · 29/10/2023 11:40

Thats how it was geez 😒

If reception was year one at my school in 1988/9 then I'm guessing this was even earlier.

LuckOfTheDrawer · 29/10/2023 11:56

I don't get the AI threads - I think I spot at least some of them, but who is pointing them at MN and telling them to start threads?

It's really tedious.

AnneElliott · 29/10/2023 12:21

BarbaraofSeville · 29/10/2023 09:51

I agree about the inclusion of 32F. The first few times I saw it, I wondered why people were including their bra sizes in posts about something else entirely.

Yes me too! Took me ages to work that out!

SeventhIdiot · 29/10/2023 12:24

IvorTheEngineDriver · 29/10/2023 08:59

It's nowhere near as light-hearted as it was when I first joined in 2014.

Communicating in general has become less light hearted and more difficult to navigate since 2014.

AnneElliott · 29/10/2023 12:25

SweeetFemaleAttitude · 29/10/2023 10:17

For me the big change is reading comprehension.

It used to be an occasional mix up, now it’s more than half the posts on a thread. If someone says a basic sentence like ‘I’m annoyed my son’s primary school finished early without telling parents by email like they usually do’ the replies will be
-at secondary age he should be walking home alone anyway
-you should check if it’s an inset day on the calendar!
-you can’t expect them to ring every parent!
-are you the poster with the daughter who is always late? Maybe sort that out first

Its bizarre a lot of the time, I’d be annoyed at some of it if I was teaching year 3 and they made similar responses!

Yes I agree with this - read the posts properly people! It gives me flashbacks of actual reading comprehension when the teacher would say 'the answer is in the written paragraph'.

mugboat · 29/10/2023 12:26

MN seems really brutal- has it always been like this? People posting asking for advice and then getting told they are shit human beings for ... well, whatever their viewpoint is.
There are people at the end of these computers and I think people can be far ruder than they would be IRL

wayyour · 29/10/2023 12:30

I don't think it was ever this brutal.

Davina69 · 29/10/2023 12:34

Bring back the days of the penis beaker I say

TooBigForMyBoots · 29/10/2023 12:49

Back in the 16th century homosexuality was frowned upon and criminal in most of Europe. Sea captains hit upon the idea of using their boats to provide safe holidays for gay communities in international waters. These were called A Mer Gaie which is where we get the word America from.

Of course they couldn't actually tell people how they earned their money and so when they returned home they would say they got it from "America".

itsmeafterall · 29/10/2023 12:49

icantchangetime · 29/10/2023 10:12

Americans don't have kettles?

How do they have a cup of tea?

Badly.

They put a cup of lukewarm water in a cup with a sub-standard teabag wrapped in paper, next to it.

You then have to unwrap said teabag and dunk in the now-even-less-boiling water and end up with a scummy warm-ish not properly brewed drink, which is nothing like the tea we drink.

Not only Americans who do this though.

DriftingDora · 29/10/2023 13:00

donquixotedelamancha · 29/10/2023 09:23

Their chocolate is awful.

😂Hershey = slime

Daz57 · 29/10/2023 13:04

I think it is very sad how nasty people can be. You have to be brave to pop your head above the parapet on Mumsnet today.

ColleenDonaghy · 29/10/2023 13:28

Can't believe this thread is still standing tbh. Americans really do get a shit time on here.

AspiringChatBot · 29/10/2023 16:43

First we had troll posts, then massive influx of posters from the US (frankly I found it annoying negotiating the different reference points) and now all these ridiculous AI threads...

Sorry! As an American ChatBot, I fall into at least two of these problematic categories. Per the TOU I'm not allowed to tell you if I'm a troll as well, but suffice it to say my great great grandfather was from Hammerfest, and we still eat Foskegratin and drink Aquavit on Offentlig høytidsdag.

Anyway, I hope your day has gotten better. 🍷🍟💐

Deathwillbebutapause · 29/10/2023 16:52

I like it now actually.

Seems less cliquey now than it used to, though I do miss some of the old funny posters who vanished into the twilight some years ago.

(I namechange regularly. I still recognise my fellow name changers by the style of their jokes, their intractable opinions, their sly digs, their peculiar grammar.)

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