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What can I ask the police to do?

67 replies

ConstantAnxietyNonStop · 22/10/2023 13:37

Last year I was randomly attacked by 2 school mums over our 5 year olds falling out. My child fell into their child during gym time, school have confirmed over and over it was an accident. It was completely unexpected and I never saw it coming, there was no row beforehand, they just jumped out of their car as I was walking home and started to scream at me and attack me

It was reported to the police ( I rang the police as they started screaming at me so the whole thing is on a 999 call )

One woman was arrested for GBH as I needed emergancy dental care after the attack and released under investigation ( still being investigated )

After the attack I was sent posts and tiktoks by friends that shed made online about me threatening and posting pictures of my social media and profile pictures. I also reported this to the police and they basically said as my profile pictures ect were public there was nothing they could do. Same with the threats as she hadnt threatened me directly

I get sent things still and this woman has been posting lives/posts about me for almost a year now. Last night I was sent one where she was saying she Hope's i die, she knows where i live, I'm in for a shock and I'm going to be sorry. She outright says my name several times

I'm sick of reporting things to the police and nothin coming of it. A few days ago they both walked past me and called me a scruffy cunt infront of my 2 primary school aged children

I'm so fed up. This has been going on for so long, the police just apologise for the time it's been taking and say their investigating

It's been almost a year now of indirectly harrassing me online ---- I have never had a conversation with these women since the attack I pretend I dont see them so it's really not like I've been ant agonising them,

I hate to say it, their literally bullying me and I feel so pathetic

Last time I reported indirect threats the police said they couldnt do anything as she hadnt contacted me directly, but surely nearly a year of doing this to somone surely somthing can be done?

Does anyone know what I can report all this under? I've looked online and it doeant really come under online harrassment as that's direct?

I just want it all to stop I keep applying for houses to move areas, I'm not a priority as it's not domestic violence so I'm literally 200+ in the queues. I cant cope living like this anymore I was so frightened to to to school after the attack I kept my children off for 11 days, I record myself walking to school everyday, I have a body camera just incase it happens again

I just want it to stop and I feel like the police just havnt helped because I cant articulate myself properly when I'm stressed ( newly diagnosed ADHD) and to them its playground bullshit but in reality this is affecting mine and my childrwns lives so badly

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RudsyFarmer · 22/10/2023 13:40

So perceived hatred the police are queuing up to deal with. Actual physical violence and online harassment - they are nowhere to be seen. I’m going to guess you have no protected characteristic OP?

ConstantAnxietyNonStop · 22/10/2023 13:44

RudysFarmer

I’m going to guess you have no protected characteristic OP?

Sorry I dont know what you mean?

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ConstantAnxietyNonStop · 22/10/2023 13:45

RudsyFarmer · 22/10/2023 13:40

So perceived hatred the police are queuing up to deal with. Actual physical violence and online harassment - they are nowhere to be seen. I’m going to guess you have no protected characteristic OP?

Sorryy just googled it

I've recently been diagnosed with ADHD but I dont know I'd that would come under it? I'm vulnerable due to circumstances before the attack but again I dont know if that would count

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ConstantAnxietyNonStop · 22/10/2023 13:47

I reported them about the scruffy cunt comments online and I did put down that I felt like I was being targeted due to being vulnerable and not having any local support ( moved up here fleeing DV, our family live a 50 minute drive away )

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EverythingLouderThanEverythingElse · 22/10/2023 13:47

I would contact your MP and explain what has happened and that you're living in fear.

MiddleagedBeachbum · 22/10/2023 13:47

Just wanted to send you hugs and say I’m so sorry you’re going through this.

Yes to kicking up more of a fuss with the Police, perhaps make a complaint to the sergeant?

Fionaville · 22/10/2023 13:50

Aren't the school doing anything?! It's effecting your children (them insulting you in front of DCs) I would absolutely keep taking this to the head!

PicturesOfDogs · 22/10/2023 13:50

Sounds awful.
Could you look into getting a non-mole station order or something?

PicturesOfDogs · 22/10/2023 13:50

*molestation

EmeraldTheSeahorse · 22/10/2023 13:52

Move schools

ATerrorofLeftovers · 22/10/2023 13:52

Write to your MP and ask them to intervene with the police to make sure it’s dealt with properly. Ask them also to intervene with the council to help get you moved quickly. Also speak to the school every time there’s an incident. I worry for this woman’s child as well.

So sorry this is happening to you.

tttigress · 22/10/2023 13:53

No suggestions, but the police are pretty out of date with online harassment.

LakeTiticaca · 22/10/2023 13:57

Contact the most senior police officer local to you and make a serious complaint. The police need to get off their arses and act.

MereDintofPandiculation · 22/10/2023 14:03

Report every single incident to the police. Use the on-line 101 so you have time to compose your words. Speak to your MP as above. Stress the effect on your children.

Perhaps speak to GP to document your anxiety and that of your children. Get something in writing from school to say effect on children. The more "evidence" you can amass, the more chance of MP/Council taking it seriously.

Keep a record of every incident no matter how minor

If you can afford it, seek advice from a solicitor.

Report to tik-tok etc asking them to ban poster - most SM says something like "no violent posts". Probably nothing will come of it, but you never know.

fedupandstuck · 22/10/2023 14:05

They're harassing you via online messages and in person too.

Can you collect all the evidence of their abusive messages, so screenshots of each message, write up a timeline of each incident and then report that to the police as harassment. Try and get as much evidence as possible together, dated and in order, to make it as easy as possible for the police to see what's going on. Relate it back to your previous report of GBH, because intimidating a witness is also a crime and what these two are doing could be considered that too.

Separately if you haven't already I'd ask for a meeting with the school and tell them about the GBH investigation and the ongoing harassment. Ask them what they will do to keep you and your children safe on school grounds. I'd expect these two women to be banned from the school site, but the school might not be brave enough to enforce that.

You might be able to find some support from some of the charities listed here:

www.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/sh/stalking-harassment/support-victims-harassment/

ConstantAnxietyNonStop · 22/10/2023 14:07

Thank you for replying

EverythingLouderThanEverythingElse Would my MP be interested in this? I feel like they are going to say this isnt in their job title or somthing similar

MiddleagedBeachbum
I cannot articulate myself well at all in person, I stumble over my words especially if it feels like a confrontation and asking them why they arnt doing more really does feel like I'm being confrontational. I have emailed several times and I get apologises back and saying their still investigating

If it wasnt for my children I dont know what I'd of done at this point. I have to keep telling myself it's all going to be okay and everything happens for a reason but this is all so upsetting it feels like being in an abusive relationship again but theres no way out this time

Fionaville

School have been really supportive. This year they split the class and put our DC in separate playgrounds and separate classrooms as the first place I went after the attack was to school for her address whilst I was on the phone to the police. One of their children attacked one of my children in the toilets ( their child is older ) so now my child has a buddy to go to the toilet with

They have been supportive in lots of other ways, emotionally too, offered to let me pick up and drop the kids early or late, told me I can bring my dog to school if I'm worried about walking by myself, they cannot do much about the other parents as the police havnt done anything yet

PicturesOfDogs
I will look into this now but I dont think I can do that without a conviction of some sort? I dont know anything about it I'll look in a minute

EmeraldTheSeahorse

I am trying to move out of the area, my children have already been in hostels temporary accommodation, we finally got our own property and now I need to move them again, I dont want to move them school within the area to then move school again theyve been through so much already. It cannot be healthy for them and I know this situation isnt either but ag least they have massive support from school and have a nice relatio ship with them. Our school is a 6 minute walk from our house

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Coldinscotland · 22/10/2023 14:08

As a start ask school to be able to drop off and collect dc at a different time. Your dc's education being affected may mean they may be more likely to step up. Get headphones so you clearly aren't hearing their abuse..

BitofaStramash · 22/10/2023 14:11

Contact Victim Support - they may be able to help with putting a rocket up the police and can support at this time.

Home - Victim Support

Also consider complaining to the police and to your MP

Home - Victim Support

Victim Support is the independent charity dedicated to supporting victims of crime and traumatic incidents in England and Wales.

https://www.victimsupport.org.uk/

eandz13 · 22/10/2023 14:14

I think I've seen your case in the paper a while back, unless it was a very similar story and completely different people.

I agree with @Coldinscotland - a friend of mine drops/picks up her DC at a slightly different time than usual due to her having a harassment/stalking charge against her ex. Worth asking the school perhaps?

Fionaville · 22/10/2023 14:18

@ConstantAnxietyNonStop School should call the parents in to 'resolve' this (obviously they can't but they need to let these parents know that they are aware and it's unacceptable)
I had a similar experience at my DCs school. Nothing as bad as your situation, but another mum kicking off at pick up. I told the head who got us both in and told the other mother that her behaviour would not be tolerated in our 'school community' mainly because it negatively impacts the children. Your school really isn't doing enough to protect you and your DCs.

purpleme12 · 22/10/2023 14:20

You can go to court to get a restraining order even if there's been no conviction.
You will have to some kind of evidence (but it sounds like you've got that) to show them there's a reason for it.
But that will cost you money so it depends whether you'd like to go down that route

ConstantAnxietyNonStop · 22/10/2023 14:23

Coldinscotland

Last year I was dropping them off slightly later and picking them up early. This year school changed the times so there is a 15 minute window where everyone can bring their children in within those 15 minutes.

I started bringing them any time within those 15 minutes, I set off at a different time everyday and take different routes to school everyday so theres not a pattern to where I'm going to be or what time I go. I'm reluctant to start bringing them late everyday again as their attendance was really bad last year

BitofaStramash
I did an online report when they made comments at me the other day and I clicked the bit where it asked if I wanted to be contacted by victim supoort so hopefully theyll contact me this week

eandz13

I posted about this last year when it happened on here but then got mumsnet to delete the post after a day or so as I was worried someone would see it and it would cause more trouble. I havnt seen my story in a paper though so maybe there been a similar incident with someone else

School will let us do that and they had given everyone a 15 minute window to drop their children off so I was really hoping that this year those 15 minutes would be helpful they have been but we still see them several times a week

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legosunqueen · 22/10/2023 14:24

This is shocking OP. Please do get your MP involved, they will be able to help, also your local councillor perhaps. As others have said, screenshot everything as evidence - this is harassment & you shouldn't have to live in fear like this Flowers

Americano75 · 22/10/2023 14:25

EverythingLouderThanEverythingElse · 22/10/2023 13:47

I would contact your MP and explain what has happened and that you're living in fear.

Came to suggest the same. Make some noise OP, find your rage. You don't deserve this.

Oblomov23 · 22/10/2023 14:26

Speak to the police again about harassment. Contact a solicitor about harassment.

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