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What can I ask the police to do?

67 replies

ConstantAnxietyNonStop · 22/10/2023 13:37

Last year I was randomly attacked by 2 school mums over our 5 year olds falling out. My child fell into their child during gym time, school have confirmed over and over it was an accident. It was completely unexpected and I never saw it coming, there was no row beforehand, they just jumped out of their car as I was walking home and started to scream at me and attack me

It was reported to the police ( I rang the police as they started screaming at me so the whole thing is on a 999 call )

One woman was arrested for GBH as I needed emergancy dental care after the attack and released under investigation ( still being investigated )

After the attack I was sent posts and tiktoks by friends that shed made online about me threatening and posting pictures of my social media and profile pictures. I also reported this to the police and they basically said as my profile pictures ect were public there was nothing they could do. Same with the threats as she hadnt threatened me directly

I get sent things still and this woman has been posting lives/posts about me for almost a year now. Last night I was sent one where she was saying she Hope's i die, she knows where i live, I'm in for a shock and I'm going to be sorry. She outright says my name several times

I'm sick of reporting things to the police and nothin coming of it. A few days ago they both walked past me and called me a scruffy cunt infront of my 2 primary school aged children

I'm so fed up. This has been going on for so long, the police just apologise for the time it's been taking and say their investigating

It's been almost a year now of indirectly harrassing me online ---- I have never had a conversation with these women since the attack I pretend I dont see them so it's really not like I've been ant agonising them,

I hate to say it, their literally bullying me and I feel so pathetic

Last time I reported indirect threats the police said they couldnt do anything as she hadnt contacted me directly, but surely nearly a year of doing this to somone surely somthing can be done?

Does anyone know what I can report all this under? I've looked online and it doeant really come under online harrassment as that's direct?

I just want it all to stop I keep applying for houses to move areas, I'm not a priority as it's not domestic violence so I'm literally 200+ in the queues. I cant cope living like this anymore I was so frightened to to to school after the attack I kept my children off for 11 days, I record myself walking to school everyday, I have a body camera just incase it happens again

I just want it to stop and I feel like the police just havnt helped because I cant articulate myself properly when I'm stressed ( newly diagnosed ADHD) and to them its playground bullshit but in reality this is affecting mine and my childrwns lives so badly

OP posts:
tolerable · 22/10/2023 15:43

contact victim support

desikated · 22/10/2023 17:00

Oh gosh I am so so sorry for you. What a horrible situation and it sounds like you have done everything t you possibly can. I obviously don't know but I would bet that these women are bullies through and through , and you won't be the only victim either now or in the past.

Anyway, others have suggested - you can get a non mol / restraining order without a criminal conviction. You have evidence (999 call, ongoing crim case plus online posts).

Phone victim support.
Google online how to make either of those orders above- it is relatively straightforward.
Once in place these women will be breaking the orders if they come near you etc and then the police do have to take action.

This isn't DVA, however it is abusive and violent behaviour and it is making you live in fear. You have done nothing wrong.

I'm so sorry. I cannot get my head around why anyone would behave in the way these women are.

AbbeyGailsParty · 22/10/2023 17:13

Start with contacting Victim Support as a pp said. They understand the distress and how it affects people and will be able to offer you support.

“Last night I was sent one where she was saying she Hope's i die, she knows where i live, I'm in for a shock and I'm going to be sorry. She outright says my name several times “
Surely this is a direct threat? Ask Victim Support to advise you on how to put pressure on the police to act.
Might be worth contacting the Crime Commissioner for your area?

Their behaviour is disgusting. And the example they are setting to their children is awful. I hope the police/CPS prosecute.

LakieLady · 22/10/2023 18:31

The messages you're getting might well be offences under the Malicious Communications Act, OP. Iirc, two of the tests are that they have to be threatening and intended to cause fear or alarm, and the one you mention certainly seems to fit the bill on both counts.

I'm so sorry you're having to go through this.

Redglitter · 22/10/2023 18:44

You don't need to go through your MP to escalate things with the Police. You can start off doing it directly & it'll be quicker & you'll be deal with direct

Phone 101 & say you wish to make a complaint about how your case is being handled & would like a Senior officer to contact you regarding it

Every force has its own procedures but I know with ours (Scotland) as soon as a complaint like this is received its passed to an on duty inspector to contact the person making the complaint.

It's the best way to get your complaint in the system

user1471505494 · 22/10/2023 19:11

Contact the the Police and Crime Commissioner if your area has one or Police Professional Standards who investigate if Police are doing their job properly. Write it all down with dates and times. Keep it short and factual leaving out the emotion. This way you will have the facts when you need to explain to anyone why the Police haven’t protected you

DaisyMaisyFaisy · 22/10/2023 19:23

I’d definitely take it further with the police. It’s threatening behaviour

betray · 22/10/2023 19:26

Move schools

HerMammy · 22/10/2023 19:30

I'd look into moving schools.

EmeraldTheSeahorse · 22/10/2023 19:54

All this going to the police / mp etc when it could easily be solved by moving schools. No you shouldn’t have to but sometimes it’s the best thing, I had nightmare neighbours who use to target me and the police didn’t care. I moved now I’m happy.

70sDuvet · 23/10/2023 00:30

Is there a police ombudsman in your police force?
I was getting the absolute run around from local PCs, contacted the ombudsman and within a week had 2 Inspectors looking into and solving the issue.
This all sounds horrific OP, there are definitely some mums who could act similarly at our school but I'd like to believe the school would pull them in....but you never know.

You are doing brilliantly, you've put on weight, youve taken your children away from DV at the cost of your family relationships. You are trying to do what is best for them by keeping their routine regular in a school they are supported in.

These woman are scum NOT you. If mothers have to behave like this to maje themselves feel important they have very little going on in their brains or their lives. You have overcome them already by ignoring their hideous threats and continuing to bring your children to school each day even when it must feel like torture.

Loads of PP have given great advice. Please just keep going and get the win you deserve.

Towwanthustice · 23/10/2023 00:39

The police are just s*atm. I reported a threats to kill and burn my house down and it took them 4 days to come out they took a crime report and I didn't hear from them again.
I've put in a complaint to professional standards now because this isn't the first incident I've had with neighbours.

I'd keep all the evidence and keep reporting them and keep wearing ur camera.

My mp was no use but yours might be better. I'd go with the prof standards complaint. It takes ages but at least something might be done.

capabilityfrowns · 23/10/2023 01:12

Op just ring 101 and report the harassment as a separate but ongoing incident . Do you have screenshots etc for evidence ? Have you reported this to police on 101 or just told the officer handling your case ?

This can easily be added to the gbh file . But you need to tell them what's happening properly. Phone 101 and crest a new incident - the officer who sees tounshud take a statement and any evidence you have then pass that to the original office in case (oic) and they should re arrest and interview the suspect then just add it tomtje case that's ongoing - if that's already in the system they can create a new case file and send that to cps. You maybe need to be a little more proactive and get a new incident number, they should follow this up . Don't be meek and mild about it - ring 101, new incident , new case if necessary .

Mydogmybestfriend · 23/10/2023 02:45

It is harrassment but police pick and choose what harrassment they take seriously usually when it involves you complaining about the fact they did nothing they then hold a grudge against you

Been here before.

SinnerBoy · 23/10/2023 05:25

Redglitter · Yesterday 18:44

Phone 101 & say you wish to make a complaint about how your case is being handled & would like a Senior officer to contact you regarding it.

That sounds like a very good idea.

What these women have done is inexcusable and they've now committed a further serious crime, of witness tampering / intimidation. Quite frankly, I'm amazed that the Police have seen this as an easy mark on their statistics.

Make sure to take screenshots of everything you can. The intimidation can be folded into the GBH case and courts do take it very seriously. If you get no joy from complaining to the Police, email the screenshots to your MP and crime commissioner, copying them into the same email.

I wish you all the best.

crumblylancs · 23/10/2023 06:21

When you've reported the harassment, who has it been to? Is it the officer dealing with the case or 101?

They definitely should be acting upon it, at least for witness intimidation - even though they're not identifying you, is it very obvious it's about you because of the situation?

bennyonthedispatch · 23/10/2023 07:06

Redglitter · 22/10/2023 18:44

You don't need to go through your MP to escalate things with the Police. You can start off doing it directly & it'll be quicker & you'll be deal with direct

Phone 101 & say you wish to make a complaint about how your case is being handled & would like a Senior officer to contact you regarding it

Every force has its own procedures but I know with ours (Scotland) as soon as a complaint like this is received its passed to an on duty inspector to contact the person making the complaint.

It's the best way to get your complaint in the system

I agree with this (also Police Scotland but imagine this would be dealt with similarly in most forces).

Further to this, I used to work in social housing. Could you contact your Housing Officer with all the details of your original case, evidence etc and ask to be considered for a 'management transfer'? If approved this would bump you to the top of the list and your move would be relatively soon and managed by the provider but this does depends on your social housing provider having properties within a wide enough geographic area that would encompass another school catchment area.

I also agree with contacting your MP, MSP (if relevant) and Victim Support.

I'm in awe of you. You really have been through the mill and your story definitely puts my paltry problems into perspective. One day this will all be history.

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