A global peace movement

[Theemeperorsnewclothes]

All I am seeing are decisive threads that keep getting deleted. All I am also seeing, and reading in the news, are heartbreaking accounts and images. I don’t have the answers, no one does. Where money and power are in play, there are no easy answers, perhaps we are on our way to world devastation. A terrifying thought, but a thought that has played in many of our minds. As I see it, the only way forward is a peace movement, a global peace movement. I have no political or religious allegiance, just an allegiance to all the innocents on both sides. It would take one hell of a U-turn from political parties, and a U-turn we realistically know they won’t take, without some sort of extraordinary turn of events. I can’t help thinking that this is the only way we have a chance at saving humanity.

"Imagine what could be done for humanity if the money and effort and brainpower currently wasted on war and conflict and the military could be redirected for good."

we cannot leave earth defenseless, especially when humanity does make official first contact

There will never be peace so long as the military industrial complex is in control of politicians. People don't want peace either or they would stop electing weak leaders that allow the warlords to embolden. A LOT of money is being made right now.

There was 4 years of peace recently. Think about what has happened in the last 3 years to turn the world upside down.

Peace protests don't mean jack.

but on the flip side, earth needs the "military industrial complex" what do people think are in the various galaxies ? all peace loving Little green beings waving peace flags, and doing the peace signs etc ?

Also a one world Govt would also help massively with having earth and by extension the "federation of planets" under one govt as it could help earth and humanity achieve peace, while at the same time having Earth and its colonies be equipped for war in the galaxies.

If humanity can’t come together to tackle the threat of climate change, I don’t think there’s much hope for a global peace movement (especially when most people are not directly affected).

And, even if people did rise up to demand peace and secured it for a short time, I can’t imagine that peace surviving the widespread displacement of people that will come with said climate change. I expect in 50-100 years these will be seen as the good old days…

That said, it’s undoubtedly a very worthy cause and you shouldn’t be put off by my doomism.

What makes you think humanity will ever contact intelligent extra-terrestrial life?

Although I don’t believe we’re alone in the universe, they chances of us ever making contact seem incredibly slim.

There's too much money to be made by war, for the powers that be to ever allow total peace.
We can only dream for peace, in any of our lifetimes.

This

Once it wasn't perfect but had good intentions. Now it is just used to carry out bad intentions. It is like school playground politics. Different groups stick together and only support their mates opinions most the time. Even if the mate is threatening to bomb their neighbours or is suppressing their own people.

I love the sound of a world peace movement but like all politicians or parties eventually it would not be what was intended. If the movement was to work it would have to have powers. Power equals corruption.

That’s not true at all. All the richest people in the world are people with businesses, plenty of money, and not blowing people up. Wars are for unintelligent men incapable of anything meaningful.

Yeah freshstart no money in war at all

What planet do some of you live on?

Banishing religion won't stop wars.

Ukraine and Russia are both predominantly Christian. The war is not about that.

Sadly we are dealing with terrorists who see no value in human life. The way they treat women is unspeakable. They do not believe people can be gay.

I'm afraid peace is not something Hamas would ever sit down to negotiate and it is naive to say so. I'm neither Jewish or Muslim.

Why Stalin Tried to Stamp Out Religion in the Soviet Union | HISTORY

Stalin's rule left 3.9 million of his own people dead.

Eight Main Causes of War:

1. Economic Gain
2. Territorial Gain
3. Religion
4. Nationalism
5. Revenge
6. Civil War
7. Revolutionary War
8. Defensive War

The 8 Main Reasons for War - Owlcation

I think we read it differently.

Inread there is no money or power in peace which is completely untrue.

You reading there’s money and power in war - which is true to a point but in the end everyone ends up broke, dead and being judged by history.

Not rocket science.

Before all for that, you need to have "sides" though. "Sides" are at the heart of all conflicts. Whether it's two individuals fighting over the last Rolo, or two tribes fighting over the riverbank.

And the me/not me paradigm is a fundamental artefact of genetics that expresses itself everywhere. From your scent to your speech to your sight.

I agree, exactly.

Yes, this reminds me that John Lennon was an emotionally abusive wifebeater, who abandoned his first wife and son. He also mocked the disabled and managed to stop beating a man before he actually killed him.

He said later that he had changed and got into the peace stuff, because of his previous violence.

He still left his first son out of his will, so I'm not sure he had changed that much.

Thanks for pointing that out. Otherwise I might have gone all hippy and thought that peace was a good idea. Phew, lucky escape. Let the bombs fall while we all polish our fucking halos shall we ?

(Yes. That is sarcasm. It's deep sarcasm. It's hopefully shocking sarcasm.)

Well that ruins his music for me

However it had to be said probably

Yeah, doesn't quite go with the image does it?

Mind you, I try to separate the artist from the art or I'd have practically nothing to read, watch or listen to 😀So, for me, John Lennon's song has great sentiments although I'm not completely blind to the man behind the music.

Luckily, thinking peace is a good idea doesn't hinge on thinking John Lennon was a great guy.

If that's what you were saying.

Sorry I may have misunderstood, I am never sure with sarcasm!

There are many peace movements all over the world but they are usually associated with spiritual practice and working to practice peace in your own life. There cannot be global peace until there is individual peace.

All I am seeing are decisive threads that keep getting deleted.

Sadly, that's just it though isn't it?

Humans can't even discuss something on a forum without things getting aggressive and heated, no-one trying to understand one another's point of view, resulting in threads being pulled.

That's why I feel so hopeless about world peace, really.

As @BlueKaftan says, "There cannot be global peace until there is individual peace."

@Theemeperorsnewclothes the "I'm 14 and this is deep" poster was mocking, I'm afraid. It's a page on reddit where people cringe at posts by young people just discovering the basics of the world and thinking they're all profound for having these 'deep' realisations. That's what the comment was referencing.
I've laughed at that page myself, I mean teenagers are peak cringe a lot of the time, but I think it's a bit unkind to post that here when you're an well intentioned adult.
It's a pity any attempt at conversations around peace have to be dowsed in cynicism, as though to be hopeful or naive is a terrible thing deserving of ridicule.