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WWYD- damaging friendship over a cot?

392 replies

Honestmummydearest · 15/10/2023 05:50

This is less of a AIBU and more of a WWYD because I genuinely don’t feel I have BU but would appreciate advice.

A few years ago we had our first born and bought a not inexpensive bedside cot, suitable for the early months. Served us well and when LO was ready, we packed it up and stored it away. A few months later DH’s friends got pregnant. Aware money was tight for them (and knowing I would have loved to have been on the receiving end) we lent it to DH’s friends, making it clear we planned for a second so would need it back at some point. They gratefully accepted.

Fast forward to today, the couple know I am now heavily pregnant with DC2 and whilst I have physically only briefly run into them on a few occasions in the interim, we are in touch via text with pleasantries, updates, birthday wishes etc. They have actively acknowledged how far I am along in my second pregnancy and said of course we can have the cot back ‘soon, but not yet’. We felt awkward pushing this and I still had a few weeks to go at that point so let it drop.

In an effort to force the point, we invited ourselves over yesterday and arrived with baby gifts etc even though their LO is now 8 months- this is really the first time we had properly met up. They gave us a tour of the house and I saw they still had the cot (so not sold or damaged) and were still actively using it. They clocked that I’d seen it and again thanked me and said we could have it back for DC2 ‘soon, but not today’.

I subtly dropped into conversation that our first had been out of the cot for several months at their LO’s age and we’d found an age appropriate, larger cot in a second hand shop for £20. They said oh yes, and there are lots of FB marketplace- they would pick one up. Soon, but not today.

I reminded that at this stage in both our respective earlier pregnancies our babies had already been born and I am expecting this one to be early too. Much head nodding and acknowledgment but no offer of when we’ll get the cot back.

I don’t believe there is any malice here- just perhaps a short sightedness on this couple’s part. I am disappointed, though, that we are being taken advantage of and have asked DH to message with an exact date in the coming week when he will be over to pick up the cot. Concerned we’ll get the same response: ‘Soon, but not yet’ and that I’ll go into labour without a cot for our newborn.

I’m not sure how much more direct I can be with them, without being rude. They are DH’s friends really and I am loathe to damage the friendship he has but have told him it’s on him to sort this out now. He needs to have a frank conversation with them, but in his defence, it’s not like either of us have been overly subtle!

AIBU/WWYD?

OP posts:
TheaBrandt · 15/10/2023 09:51

Well they are the ones damaging the friendship?!

Briskly practical and friendly “hi John will be round to collect the cot at 4pm later”

mangochops · 15/10/2023 09:53

Having said that, I don't want to lend or borrow stuff ever. Because of shit like this

This is exactly why I dont lend stuff any more. I've been burnt in the past by people promising to return stuff and then not doing so, even with assertive responses from me. Never lend anything you want back because people take advantage, its shame but if people cant act decently then they dont deserve kindness like this.

Verbena17 · 15/10/2023 09:55

They’re the ones being rude and have taken advantage of your goodwill gesture.

Be assertive and tell them you need it back by (date well ahead of when you actually need it).

EatYourVegetables · 15/10/2023 09:56

These bedside cots are marketed as being suitable for up to 6mo. We used one until 8mo and I felt we were REALLY pushing it and worried about the safety. Most 8mo babies are way too mobile for it.

newYear10 · 15/10/2023 09:58

Honestly it's a few years old and you would need a new mattress anyway, I would just get a new one. They are not great people for doing this and well at least you know. I would only lend with assumption that I may never get it back.

InSpainTheRain · 15/10/2023 09:59

"Great to catch up yesterday. Just to let you know we need the cot back by [date] at the latest. We can pop over and pick up. See you soon". Then go and get it on the date. You need to be more assertive!

InTheRainOnATrain · 15/10/2023 10:00

They’re damaging the friendship by not returning it and they’re putting their baby in danger by using it beyond the recommended age limits. All because they can’t manage to buy a cheap cot from somewhere like ikea. Idiots. Anyway you need to be more assertive. Tell them you’re picking it up in a week.

LIZS · 15/10/2023 10:03

InSpainTheRain · 15/10/2023 09:59

"Great to catch up yesterday. Just to let you know we need the cot back by [date] at the latest. We can pop over and pick up. See you soon". Then go and get it on the date. You need to be more assertive!

This. You can even say you are anxious to get everything in place in case baby arrives early.

Lemonyfuckit · 15/10/2023 10:03

LateAF · 15/10/2023 06:31

Controversial opinion but I don’t think you should have lent it to them knowing you’d be pregnant and have a baby within a year of doing so. It’s not like lending clothes where the baby generally grows out of it within a few months. What should have been a lovely unpressured milestone for them of baby moving from one cot bed to a toddler one must now feel quite stressful.

So I think you are both being unreasonable - them for refusing to return something that’s not theirs. But you for lending it to them knowing you were going to be this precious about timings and ask for it back within 8 months while they are still using it (it’s not like they’ve stored it away).

But it's not as if the OP's pregnancy is a surprise - they've had months to prepare.

Lemonyfuckit · 15/10/2023 10:06

Just message them saying we need it back this weekend - we can come Saturday x time or Sunday y time, which is better for you. If they persist with this 'soon but not yet' nonsense I would lay it on thick ' but you have known when I'm due, and imagine if I give birth and we don't yet have our cot back'

LimePi · 15/10/2023 10:06

Why can’t you just use your mouth to say clearly while you were at their house:

look, this cot is only meant to be used for 6-7 months so we didn’t expect you are still using it. I understand it may be sooner than expected but we need this cot for our baby by X date.

what is this ridiculous beating around the bush?
btw there are lots of these cribs on sale second hand for £50 and I’ve even seen them given away for free.
I don’t understand the drama about this

LuckySantangelo35 · 15/10/2023 10:07

LateAF · 15/10/2023 06:31

Controversial opinion but I don’t think you should have lent it to them knowing you’d be pregnant and have a baby within a year of doing so. It’s not like lending clothes where the baby generally grows out of it within a few months. What should have been a lovely unpressured milestone for them of baby moving from one cot bed to a toddler one must now feel quite stressful.

So I think you are both being unreasonable - them for refusing to return something that’s not theirs. But you for lending it to them knowing you were going to be this precious about timings and ask for it back within 8 months while they are still using it (it’s not like they’ve stored it away).

@LateAF

yeah Op YABU, putting pressure on them like that! You should just gift them the cot and buy a new one for yourself

cartagenagina · 15/10/2023 10:08

I voted YABU because I just don’t understand how you got to this point.

Use your words.

I need the cot back this week. DH will come and collect it.

jollyhols · 15/10/2023 10:08

Liloandswitch · 15/10/2023 08:59

You gave it away

No she didn't. She made it clear they'd need it back for number 2.

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 15/10/2023 10:09

None of all this niceness as you’ve done that already. I’d send a message saying “we will collect cot on eg Sunday afternoon. Thanks bye”. And do it.

Unicorntastic · 15/10/2023 10:10

“We need our cot back next week so I’ll send DH around to collect unless you can drop it off or shall we say £50 if you wanted to keep it?”

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 15/10/2023 10:12

LimePi · 15/10/2023 10:06

Why can’t you just use your mouth to say clearly while you were at their house:

look, this cot is only meant to be used for 6-7 months so we didn’t expect you are still using it. I understand it may be sooner than expected but we need this cot for our baby by X date.

what is this ridiculous beating around the bush?
btw there are lots of these cribs on sale second hand for £50 and I’ve even seen them given away for free.
I don’t understand the drama about this

Or even “we lent you this cot but said we’d need/like it back soon as we’ve had another baby” no semantics about age range. The age range means the other couple can stall on returning it to you.

Droppit · 15/10/2023 10:15

"Hey there. Great to see you the other day. We're getting our room ready for the baby this weekend so will need the cot by the end of the week - we'll pop round Friday after work if that's ok. Glad you've been able to make use of it."

Aquestioningmind · 15/10/2023 10:16

YABU simply because you should never lend something you’re not prepared to lose/have damaged.

YANBU for thinking they are cheeky fucks.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 15/10/2023 10:20

Lovely to catch up yesterday. I’m getting a bit anxious about being prepared for baby’s arrival and want to get everything ready. Really pleased that our crib has been so useful for you but we need it back now. DH will be round next weekend to pick it up.

AnneLovesGilbert · 15/10/2023 10:21

You’re obviously not that close anyway. Get DH to get it back asap, he should be as annoyed as you are. And if they’re narky about it and it damages the relationship they’re not nice people anyway.

Jewelspun · 15/10/2023 10:24

Give three days notice to say husband and you or just husband will be collecting the cot.

If they refuse, you go round immediately and demand it back. You stand on their doorstep and keep on knocking until they answer.

You've been kind now its home to put your foot down.

diddl · 15/10/2023 10:28

Are there any shops near to them that sell cots?

If so I don't know why you didn't collect it whilst you there!

Notsuredontknow · 15/10/2023 10:33

I haven’t read the whole thread but I don’t think you’ve been direct enough. Some people are utterly oblivious. I would say “sorry, we need it back now. DH will come and collect it next week - it absolutely has to be ready for us as you know how close baby’s arrival is.” If they still resist then you know they are taking the piss and you then don’t need to worry about being polite. I’d be so annoyed at this behaviour though, the lack of manners/awareness of some people!

CrotchetyQuaver · 15/10/2023 10:34

They need to get another cot!
I had this situation myself with an 0-9m car seat friends had said we could have. They had been trying for years for another and had all but given up. Of course she then got pregnant and needed it back. It didn't occur to me to hang on to it and inconvenience them!

I'd give them 2 weeks notice that you'll be coming to fetch it and hold firm on that.

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