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Cost of everything. Race to the bottom.

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Eddyraisins · 08/10/2023 10:26

The cost of things are horrendous no point in denying that.

A mortgaged family are probably £400-500 down a month from a couple of year ago.
A non mortgaged maybe £300. For renters if landlord has put rent up then its the same as above. Food, the insane gas and electricity costs, petrol, food bills gone up 25 percent plus. Just everything. Any spare money doesn't go as far as it did anyway.
Now insurance is creeping up. Everything is up.

It sucks all round.

Why are people fighting at the bottom instead of looking up?

Yes people on min wage work hard and have many different challenges, time also stands still if work is boring. It can be really hard. I also see people that have studied hard and earning ok but they can't switch off after work, have students loans, have been sold the idea life should be slightly better. It should be! Both have their challenges.
Life is shit we are all down.
Battling at the bottom while the rich are fine.
It is representative of that cartoon. The guy with all the food pointing at a guy with some food, pointing at someone with an empty plate saying he is goong to take yours.

Lets compare up not down. AIBU to stop blaming each other and blame upwards?

Many of us are struggling lets not take that away from those struggling.

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Littlemousesing · 08/10/2023 18:29

Zebedee55 · 08/10/2023 18:26

Yes, and it was obvious that it wouldn't last. I feel sorry for young parents - I did the years of Kwik-Save (bucket shop lol) for shopping, shuffling working about with my ex, (no childcare vouchers then), and jumble sales etc.

Its hard and it grinds you down.

But it's not new.

Yes cheap credit and H2B has completely shafted them.

duchiebun · 08/10/2023 18:32

and then obviously the change in income vs housing

AnotherTeaPlease · 08/10/2023 20:06

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KMA2023 · 08/10/2023 20:23

I'm so sick of this narrative on MN.
Do those of you who have a degree (several sometimes plus a master's,/PHD) think you are more worthy?
Unless you have a vocational degree in a much needed and useful subject, get over yourselves.
Some of the least intelligent people I know have useless degrees in useless subjects.
Most of the people who keep this country running deserve far more.

duchiebun · 08/10/2023 20:26

Ask your friends what they thought of him from the start if you are incapable of spotting the signs yourself

that’s so offensive

AnotherTeaPlease · 08/10/2023 20:28

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Sadie43 · 08/10/2023 20:52

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Still victim blaming even with your little blatantly obvious ‘it’s always the fault of an abusive partner’ - No shit Sherlock.

tpxqi · 08/10/2023 20:56

What are you talking about? What exactly is your point? Your post is rambling.

If you’re wanting to debate the reasons for runaway inflation, look no further than hysterical shrieking morons who were calling for lockdowns for two years, not considering for one moment how locking down healthy people would be paid for. They actively campaigned for the economy to be destroyed through a trillion £ of money printing and borrowing. In fear of an illness that had less than 1% mortality rate, and all exclusively in over 65s.

So the time to complain was back in 2020 and 2021.

KMA2023 · 08/10/2023 20:56

Yes everyone I know with a degree is always headhunted, not.
A lot work in entry level jobs including call centres.
People in caring professions, public services etc are definitely worthy of higher wages and respect.
History of art, Greek philosophy and folk studies aren't increasing value for anyone.
Critical thinking is a sign of intelligence not a university privilege.

KMA2023 · 08/10/2023 20:57

That was to anotherteaplease

AnotherTeaPlease · 08/10/2023 21:00

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KMA2023 · 08/10/2023 21:14

You seem to have no understanding of real life.
No to both actually.
For yourself, nepotism, privileged background?
Why is your worth to society higher than theirs?
What do you actually provide other than a high income for yourself?

Willyoujustbequiet · 08/10/2023 21:24

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You are delusional

Everyone loved him. Some still supported him throughout proceedings until they heard the evidence. Ordinary people are capable of horrific things and anyone can turn. The fact that you can't recognise that makes you incredibly foolish.

It is internalised misogyny and quite possibly privilege.

Aposterhasnoname · 08/10/2023 21:27

tpxqi · 08/10/2023 20:56

What are you talking about? What exactly is your point? Your post is rambling.

If you’re wanting to debate the reasons for runaway inflation, look no further than hysterical shrieking morons who were calling for lockdowns for two years, not considering for one moment how locking down healthy people would be paid for. They actively campaigned for the economy to be destroyed through a trillion £ of money printing and borrowing. In fear of an illness that had less than 1% mortality rate, and all exclusively in over 65s.

So the time to complain was back in 2020 and 2021.

This. So much this.

AnotherTeaPlease · 08/10/2023 21:27

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fetchacloth · 08/10/2023 21:27

Zebedee55 · 08/10/2023 17:03

Interest rates wee held very (artificially?) low for a very long time. Now they are now near the "old normal" it's causing problems.

Not sure what can be done about it.🤔

Not sure myself really. However I think that the interest rates should have been rising a few years ago at a much steadier rate, not monthly like they have been.
This would have stopped the money printing and slowed down borrowing.
The large amounts of borrowing is what is painful to deal with now and why taxation levels won't be reducing any time soon 😏

AnotherTeaPlease · 08/10/2023 21:43

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KMA2023 · 08/10/2023 21:45

Someone's worth to society is not imbecilic.
Your sense of worth may be.
No my bigotry is not apparent. I'm from a former mining community.
You, however, have no manners and have been rude to a number of posters.

Araminta1003 · 09/10/2023 08:33

I recently looked up accepted cost of living Indices and quality of life indices. England and GB still does well compared to most other countries in the world. Can’t compare to Norway or Switzerland on quality of life, of course, but those are much smaller, richer countries. Better to compare GB to places like France.

Two points really struck me though. London is way down on quality of life indices compared to other capitals and global cities. It was something like number 147 (crime, too expensive housing, access to health care). Manchester did much better.
And Ireland is doing really well!
It is pretty much a fact that PAYE employees in London get screwed over by the state, but in return those who can get on the housing ladder somehow don’t pay capital gains tax on profits on main residence.

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