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Cost of everything. Race to the bottom.

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Eddyraisins · 08/10/2023 10:26

The cost of things are horrendous no point in denying that.

A mortgaged family are probably £400-500 down a month from a couple of year ago.
A non mortgaged maybe £300. For renters if landlord has put rent up then its the same as above. Food, the insane gas and electricity costs, petrol, food bills gone up 25 percent plus. Just everything. Any spare money doesn't go as far as it did anyway.
Now insurance is creeping up. Everything is up.

It sucks all round.

Why are people fighting at the bottom instead of looking up?

Yes people on min wage work hard and have many different challenges, time also stands still if work is boring. It can be really hard. I also see people that have studied hard and earning ok but they can't switch off after work, have students loans, have been sold the idea life should be slightly better. It should be! Both have their challenges.
Life is shit we are all down.
Battling at the bottom while the rich are fine.
It is representative of that cartoon. The guy with all the food pointing at a guy with some food, pointing at someone with an empty plate saying he is goong to take yours.

Lets compare up not down. AIBU to stop blaming each other and blame upwards?

Many of us are struggling lets not take that away from those struggling.

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Eddyraisins · 08/10/2023 11:36

kermitsmua · 08/10/2023 11:30

It's your "blame upwards" that has confused things, OP!

I should have said government.

But I mean have compassion for all those struggling. It's shit.

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AnotherTeaPlease · 08/10/2023 11:39

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Eddyraisins · 08/10/2023 11:42

How well have you managed it though? How hard did you work at school? Which degrees did you do or which professional qualifications?

Did you delay having children until you were established in your career, find a good partner, and get married first?

At work, did you do your heat every day to deliver more for your employer, give your immediate management what they needed, and improve your skills?

*I did work hard at school. I teach A level at a vi form and yes I work super hard for the kids. Not my point.

I have one child and her Dad is awful. He supports financially. Married? Not obsessed with that. Thank goodness I didn't. I didn't know he would turn out like he did thats down to luck. Agin not my point.

Is this you blaming people for their life choices? When it's often down to genetics, luck, privilege and a whole host of other factors. Even where you live/were born.

Don't fall into that ignorant trap.*

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Eddyraisins · 08/10/2023 11:43

Why blame him for you having made a mess of your life?

Made a mess of my life? Where have I said that? Deary me.

This guy makes a fortune from the tanking pound. He is odious. It was just an example.

Honestly I despair at this place sometimes.

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megletthesecond · 08/10/2023 11:45

Yanbu. The 99% are blaming each other while the 1% (and even worse, the 0.01%) hoard money and minimise their taxes.

Justifiedcheese · 08/10/2023 11:46

HettyWainty · 08/10/2023 10:29

What's your post in response to?

Thread about a thread. OPis being...disingenuous

CesareBorgia · 08/10/2023 11:46

Eddyraisins · 08/10/2023 11:28

I can't find that cartoon. Does anyone know which I mean?

Do you mean the one about children growing up with or without privilege where the girl ends up as a waitress serving the boy?

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Darkmode2 · 08/10/2023 11:48

I wouldn't really describe it as a race to the bottom. I don't really blame people complaining and making it known they can't afford food when someone else is moaning about how they can't afford their annual holiday

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Eddyraisins · 08/10/2023 11:50

Do you mean the one about children growing up with or without privilege where the girl ends up as a waitress serving the boy?*
No its three men at a table.*

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CesareBorgia · 08/10/2023 11:51

Eddyraisins · 08/10/2023 11:50

Do you mean the one about children growing up with or without privilege where the girl ends up as a waitress serving the boy?*
No its three men at a table.*

Ah, I don't know that one, sorry.

Araminta1003 · 08/10/2023 11:53

@Eddyraisins can blame a government for not having proper laws to deal with dead beat fathers though, right? All fathers should have to pay up for any kids they have fathered.
And if they are not pulling their weight, they should be punished financially. You can have tax systems like that.
Most people are feeling the cost of living crisis, even the rich. I have quite a few friends with big salaries worried about the future of their jobs/big mortgages they took out etc. It isn’t just those at the bottom suffering in the current crisis. There are no super cushy well paid jobs. The only people well off are those with huge amounts of assets already so they can enjoy passive income and high interest rates.

Eddyraisins · 08/10/2023 11:55

So you chose to be an unmarried mother with a deadbeat dad, and rather than reflect on your bad choices you blame genetics.

There’s your answer then, you flat-out refuse to take any responsibility, preferring to blame people like me who haven’t caused your issues, which is why you’ve ended up where you are.

What issue? I have a new partner of 10 years. Who is an amazing step Dad. I don't have issues. We are quite well off.

*Yea it was unfortunate my daughters Dad turned horrible 12 years ago and has since shown his colours. These things happen. He was great for years before that.

He supports well financially. Just lives in 300 miles away. So emotionally not there. Totally irrelevant to this post though.

You have made up a scenario about me thats not true. I am thinking of others.

However are you saying of someone is a single mother its somehow there fault? Wow! The ignorance is real.*

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ginandtonicwithlimes · 08/10/2023 11:56

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Some men only show their true colours once the children appear. It is by luck that you haven't been in that situation. Should the OP have had a magic ball to predict the future? Don't be too smug.

Eddyraisins · 08/10/2023 11:57

*their fault

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Eddyraisins · 08/10/2023 11:58

I also didn't blame genetics. However it is an issue for some peoples earning capabilities.

That's very obvious!

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Ilovemycatalot · 08/10/2023 11:58

Mumsnet is not a true reflection of society.
Most of the posters here would fit into the upper class bracket, shop at Boden and have their annual holidays in far flung places most of us dream of.
I cannot relate to 90% of people that post here so I really wouldn’t look to mumsnet as a true reflection of the struggling population.

WhateverAgains · 08/10/2023 12:01

You said life is shit we are all down, and now you're saying you're happy and well off. Which one is it?

Pleaseme · 08/10/2023 12:01

I'd agree, I've been promoted and doing more hours than I was two years ago. I take home nearly 7k a year more. I'm still poorer, old house so expensive fuel up 1K a year, fixed rate mortgage ended up 4k a year, food is so expensive up 2k ayear, petrol up 1k a year (longer commute so not just due to rises to be fair). Insurance, cost of labour for general maintenance. I feel like I don't have any more options to increase income at this point.

Ilovemycatalot · 08/10/2023 12:01

But do agree this country is crap and is getting worse.

Eddyraisins · 08/10/2023 12:05

WhateverAgains · 08/10/2023 12:01

You said life is shit we are all down, and now you're saying you're happy and well off. Which one is it?

I am still probably £500 down. That I could have used in the local community. £500 I would have had 2 years ago.

That is shit. I see it all around me with the kids at work. Families struggling. It is as I said shit.

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ColonelSpondleClagnut · 08/10/2023 12:05

I think I know what you mean OP. It's diversionary tactics by those in power to have the "lower classes" squabbling amongst themselves whilst they make off with most of the cookies as it were.

The cartoon you're thinking of was originally based around the fear of economic immigrants, but yes I think it works well as an analogy for the very badly off / slightly less badly off too.

Cost of everything. Race to the bottom.
MatthewsMumFromTikTok · 08/10/2023 12:06

No degree and waiting to have kids does NOT make one happy!!

I did neither, but I'm not whinging about expenditure...we are just above NMW and are doing just fine thanks

Feel sorry for you op.... you sound so miserable

Eddyraisins · 08/10/2023 12:07

ColonelSpondleClagnut · 08/10/2023 12:05

I think I know what you mean OP. It's diversionary tactics by those in power to have the "lower classes" squabbling amongst themselves whilst they make off with most of the cookies as it were.

The cartoon you're thinking of was originally based around the fear of economic immigrants, but yes I think it works well as an analogy for the very badly off / slightly less badly off too.

That's one of them yes. Thank you.

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