Page 3 | Cost of everything. Race to the bottom.

Eddyraisins · 2023-10-08T09:26:22+00:00

The cost of things are horrendous no point in denying that. A mortgaged family are probably £400-500 down a month from a couple of year ago. A non mortgaged maybe £300. For renters if landlord has put rent up then its the same as above. Food, the insane gas and electricity costs, petrol, food bills gone up 25 percent plus. Just everything. Any spare money doesn't go as far as it did anyway. Now insurance is creeping up. Everything is up. It sucks all round. Why are people fighting at the bottom instead of looking up? Yes people on min wage work hard and have many different challenges, time also stands still if work is boring. It can be really hard. I also see people that have studied hard and earning ok but they can't switch off after work, have students loans, have been sold the idea life should be slightly better. It should be! Both have their challenges. Life is shit we are all down. Battling at the bottom while the rich are fine. It is representative of that cartoon. The guy with all the food pointing at a guy with some food, pointing at someone with an empty plate saying he is goong to take yours. Lets compare up not down. AIBU to stop blaming each other and blame upwards? Many of us are struggling lets not take that away from those struggling.

ColonelSpondleClagnut · 08/10/2023 12:07

Ooh I found the full picture - even better!

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Eddyraisins · 08/10/2023 12:08

MatthewsMumFromTikTok · 08/10/2023 12:06

No degree and waiting to have kids does NOT make one happy!!

I did neither, but I'm not whinging about expenditure...we are just above NMW and are doing just fine thanks

Feel sorry for you op.... you sound so miserable

I see misery with the students around me.

Myself I am ok. Have less expendable but ok. I worry about others.

Lots of people making assumptions. Jeez.

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Eddyraisins · 08/10/2023 12:12

So many threads running through this threads that wasn't my original intention.

Blaming single mothers for their choices and people making assumptions about me. Like it's impossible to think of people in other situations and society in general.

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Dorisbonson · 08/10/2023 12:15

When there is a job which pays more on the other side of the country do you take it or stay at home and moan and blame others?
When there is an opportunity to work hard and retrain at evenings and weekends do you do it or do you not bother?

10 years ago I took voluntary redundancy from a boring job and moved and retrained. I worked 60/70/80 hour weeks. I worked away from home. I worked weekends.

I wish I had stayed in my hometown and I could have stayed in my cosy job and seen my family more often, had help with the childcare, not had to work events and weekends, not had to study while others had fun. I wish I had a 30 minute drive to work daily rather than spending 2.5 hours a day commuting. I wish at work I had friends I could laugh and joke with rather than people I manage and need to be cautious about boundaries with. I wish I had been able to take the fun jobs that everyone wants to do rather than take the ones no one wanted in order to progress my career. However I traded all of that off to earn more money and advance my career.

Anyone can do what I have done, I'm not genius. I do resent the idea that higher earners are to blame for the cost of living crisis. It's not our fault that people that work shorter hours with fewer qualifications who aren't prepared to move for work earn less in their generally lower stress jobs.

At least 50% of the blame for someone struggling are the decisions they take themselves.

Fieldofbrokenpromises · 08/10/2023 12:16

megletthesecond · 08/10/2023 11:45

Yanbu. The 99% are blaming each other while the 1% (and even worse, the 0.01%) hoard money and minimise their taxes.

Exactly this. Worst of all are the race to the bottom gradgrinds who would love us still to be send kids up chimneys to “teach them the value of hard work”

LadyGrillingSole · 08/10/2023 12:19

I'm sure lots of people who grow up with parents who are violent, alcohol and drug abusing bastards grow up to be .01% earners.

I mean, I've never actually met any, but that's probably just because of their poor choices and planning, right? What other possible reasons could there be for their life turning to shit?

Fuck. Right. Off.

Fieldofbrokenpromises · 08/10/2023 12:19

Dorisbonson · 08/10/2023 12:15

When there is a job which pays more on the other side of the country do you take it or stay at home and moan and blame others?
When there is an opportunity to work hard and retrain at evenings and weekends do you do it or do you not bother?

10 years ago I took voluntary redundancy from a boring job and moved and retrained. I worked 60/70/80 hour weeks. I worked away from home. I worked weekends.

I wish I had stayed in my hometown and I could have stayed in my cosy job and seen my family more often, had help with the childcare, not had to work events and weekends, not had to study while others had fun. I wish I had a 30 minute drive to work daily rather than spending 2.5 hours a day commuting. I wish at work I had friends I could laugh and joke with rather than people I manage and need to be cautious about boundaries with. I wish I had been able to take the fun jobs that everyone wants to do rather than take the ones no one wanted in order to progress my career. However I traded all of that off to earn more money and advance my career.

Anyone can do what I have done, I'm not genius. I do resent the idea that higher earners are to blame for the cost of living crisis. It's not our fault that people that work shorter hours with fewer qualifications who aren't prepared to move for work earn less in their generally lower stress jobs.

At least 50% of the blame for someone struggling are the decisions they take themselves.

So you have a miserable life working 80 hours a week, and we are all supposed to aspire to that?

Fieldofbrokenpromises · 08/10/2023 12:20

Also please specify a “low stress job”

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Eddyraisins · 08/10/2023 12:25

Dorisbonson · 08/10/2023 12:15

When there is a job which pays more on the other side of the country do you take it or stay at home and moan and blame others?
When there is an opportunity to work hard and retrain at evenings and weekends do you do it or do you not bother?

10 years ago I took voluntary redundancy from a boring job and moved and retrained. I worked 60/70/80 hour weeks. I worked away from home. I worked weekends.

I wish I had stayed in my hometown and I could have stayed in my cosy job and seen my family more often, had help with the childcare, not had to work events and weekends, not had to study while others had fun. I wish I had a 30 minute drive to work daily rather than spending 2.5 hours a day commuting. I wish at work I had friends I could laugh and joke with rather than people I manage and need to be cautious about boundaries with. I wish I had been able to take the fun jobs that everyone wants to do rather than take the ones no one wanted in order to progress my career. However I traded all of that off to earn more money and advance my career.

Anyone can do what I have done, I'm not genius. I do resent the idea that higher earners are to blame for the cost of living crisis. It's not our fault that people that work shorter hours with fewer qualifications who aren't prepared to move for work earn less in their generally lower stress jobs.

At least 50% of the blame for someone struggling are the decisions they take themselves.

What is you had a child with a disability?

Parents who needed your care.

You still had the intelligence and the mental health to do that.

Some people don't. Come on now.

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Littlemousesing · 08/10/2023 12:41

kermitsmua · 08/10/2023 11:29

To me a "race to the bottom" is more about people getting annoyed that doctors are striking to earn a salary commensurate to their skills and responsibility because someone else doesn't earn that much. Or people resenting public sectors pensions rather than demanding that EVERYONE should have a decent pension.
A MN classic - poster asks advice to about getting an ex to pay what they actually owe in child benefit, but even now they get what some perceive as a reasonable amount. Cue them being told that they should be happy with what they already have as some mothers get nothing.
That's the race to the bottom.

Absolutely this!
Also people demanding pensions are cut.

Voting for themselves to have worse pensions in years to come.
Tories " but that's what you voted for ..."

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Eddyraisins · 08/10/2023 12:46

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It was an argument between 2 family members. Lots of issues to discuss.

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Eddyraisins · 08/10/2023 12:50

'You literally said that you were struggling.'

I said I have less money. We all do.

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Defiantjazz · 08/10/2023 12:52

If this is in regards to the deleted post can I just point out that she basically insinuated that she would be better off not working hard in MW job and claiming benefits. It isn't a race to the bottom to say she was better off in her job than those in that scenario. I think you can complain about your situation without turning it into a benefits bashing thread.

This is what I was thinking too.

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/10/2023 12:55

Pinkyhairclip · Today 10:51

RitaFromThePitCanteen · Today 10:46

Time to get this government out. They have created this situation and continue to benefit from it. The cost of living crisis was never inevitable.
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“To be fair, the cost of living crisis is being felt on a global level, not just the UK. So not sure that's entirely accurate”

Two words: Truss and Kwarteng.

It’s far, far worse than it needed to be. And still hundreds of dickheads are on their feet applauding her.

Littlemousesing · 08/10/2023 12:56

Eddyraisins · 08/10/2023 12:50

'You literally said that you were struggling.'

I said I have less money. We all do.

Not necessarily.
Some people just adjusted down.

The people who are really struggling haven't anyway of adjusting.
Having to give up nice ham and putting a jumper on instead of flicking on the heating is not struggling.

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Eddyraisins · 08/10/2023 12:56

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/10/2023 12:55

Pinkyhairclip · Today 10:51

RitaFromThePitCanteen · Today 10:46

Time to get this government out. They have created this situation and continue to benefit from it. The cost of living crisis was never inevitable.
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“To be fair, the cost of living crisis is being felt on a global level, not just the UK. So not sure that's entirely accurate”

Two words: Truss and Kwarteng.

It’s far, far worse than it needed to be. And still hundreds of dickheads are on their feet applauding her.

Exactly this and blaming people for their choices as this thread proves.

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jenpil · 08/10/2023 13:04

I wouldn't necessarily say the government have solely created the situation, it's a mix of many factors, some global.

But Labour isn't likely to reverse any of it anyway....

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Eddyraisins · 08/10/2023 13:06

'Not necessarily.
Some people just adjusted down.'

It is still less money. 🤦‍♀️

Though agree some people need it for basic's not extras.

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Willyoujustbequiet · 08/10/2023 13:09

There are plenty of degree educated, intelligent professionals who studied and worked hard who are in minimum wage jobs or not working.

They aren't mutually exclusive.OP. Shit happens.

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Eddyraisins · 08/10/2023 13:12

Willyoujustbequiet · 08/10/2023 13:09

There are plenty of degree educated, intelligent professionals who studied and worked hard who are in minimum wage jobs or not working.

They aren't mutually exclusive.OP. Shit happens.

Huh? I don't understand your point? Sorry.

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Littlemousesing · 08/10/2023 13:17

Eddyraisins · 08/10/2023 13:06

'Not necessarily.
Some people just adjusted down.'

It is still less money. 🤦‍♀️

Though agree some people need it for basic's not extras.

You have missed my point.
£100 for food.
If someone is buying nice food they can drop down from brands or Waitrose to Aldi and still have the same amount of food just a cheaper brand .
They still spend £100

If that £100 is feeding 3 kids in addition and is already Asda basics then there is nowhere to make changes.
The same amount of food is now £125

Willyoujustbequiet · 08/10/2023 13:19

Eddyraisins · 08/10/2023 13:12

Huh? I don't understand your point? Sorry.

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In your opening post you said "I see people on the minimum wage.....'

You then said "I also see people who have studied and worked hard....."

I just pointed out that it's not an either or situation. There are many thousands of university educated professionals who for one reason or another either can't work or in minimum wage positions. Life happens.