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Trump gets gagged, McCarthy gets booted. What's next in Trumpworld?

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AcrossthePond55 · 04/10/2023 13:20

Roll up, roll up for the GOP Mystery Tour!! Trump thread lost-the-count!!!

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AcrossthePond55 · 31/01/2024 16:32

@DuncinToffee

So I guess the quarterly reporting was what you had seen but neither of us could find the 'source'.

It will be interesting. I know there are strict rules about what campaign donations can be used for. But I think one of the PACs he set up specifically mentioned (in the fine print) that funds would be used for legal fees. Whether it's one of the PACS mentioned in your post or not I don't know.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/can-trump-use-political-donations-pay-legal-defense-2023-08-01/

Sounds like it may be a tricky/grey area hinging on whether or not the legal fees can be considered a legitimate expense. And Trump could argue that a candidate 'defending his honour' (my words) in court is a legitimate expense and directly tied to his campaign. Sheesh. Will this end up being ANOTHER court case?

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BruceAndNosh · 31/01/2024 16:36

DuncinToffee · 31/01/2024 12:23

Trump is looking for a new law firm to represent him in the appeal.

To be fair, Trump needs a specialist appelate lawyer.
Preferably with more brains and less pouty lip gloss

Roussette · 31/01/2024 16:42

My goodness, people who had stupidly donated their $10, $50 or whatever to MAGA have their donations used for legal fees? The trouble is, I don't suppose they mind..... 😯😮

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 31/01/2024 16:56

I am reasonably sure that what he can't do is use campaign donations to pay his fines. To do so would be criminal (and there we have yet another legal case on the offing, then).

SinnerBoy · 31/01/2024 17:26

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · Today 16:56

I am reasonably sure that what he can't do is use campaign donations to pay his fines.

I read that that is absolutely forbidden, it may have been in the Guardian.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 31/01/2024 17:35

I don't know it of my own knowledge, as it were, so I had to be a little cagey about it. Certainly the suggestion that it would be criminal if he did so has come from more than one US lawyer; and in that case it could become another trial, whichever way it ultimately went.

AcrossthePond55 · 31/01/2024 20:33

Roussette · 31/01/2024 16:42

My goodness, people who had stupidly donated their $10, $50 or whatever to MAGA have their donations used for legal fees? The trouble is, I don't suppose they mind..... 😯😮

No, they don't. IIRC when he started the fund that was to be for his legal fees there was like $3m donated in the first 24 hours, most of them in 'small' donations.

Wish I could find those people. I have bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell them.

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BruceAndNosh · 31/01/2024 22:27

No Verdict from Judge Engoron yet. Possibly he's doing a last minute rewrite after the damning report from Monitor overseeing Trump org finances.

DuncinToffee · 31/01/2024 22:32

I have seen reports that it could be delayed to early next week

Darkandstormynite · 01/02/2024 10:09

BruceAndNosh · 31/01/2024 22:27

No Verdict from Judge Engoron yet. Possibly he's doing a last minute rewrite after the damning report from Monitor overseeing Trump org finances.

This is exactly what I thought.

In this case a delay is very, very bad for Trump.

I saw it was expected on 5th Feb? anyone else see that?

Darkandstormynite · 01/02/2024 10:10

I'm loving how the Republicans are going cuckoo bananas over Taylor Swift 😂

Roussette · 01/02/2024 10:23

Me too!

This headline made me 🤣🤣🤣

Trump Allies Pledge ‘Holy War’ Against Taylor Swift

Taylor Swift hasn’t even endorsed Joe Biden’s 2024 campaign, but Trump has claimed that he is “more popular” than Swift and that he has more committed fans than she does,

He's rattled hahahaha

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 01/02/2024 12:11

He is also off his chump. She has more fans than he has by quite a margin.

Maybe he means his fans are more committed than hers. Or just more likely to be committed.

DuncinToffee · 01/02/2024 12:39

He left it too late

Donald Trump's attempt to bring a case in the UK against a former MI6 officer who compiled a salacious dossier linking him to Russia has failed.
The former president had been seeking to use data protection laws to sue the company run by Christopher Steele but the High Court has thrown out the case.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68166050

Christopher Steele

Christopher Steele: UK High Court throws out Trump ex-spy dossier case

The former US president's lawsuit over salacious claims linking him to Moscow prostitutes fails in London.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68166050

SerendipityJane · 01/02/2024 13:13

He is also off his chump. She has more fans than he has by quite a margin.

Who are just as devoted to their idol as Trumpers. If only 1% of them decide not to vote GOP despite it being the party of the young liberals, it could translate into electoral doom all over.

BruceAndNosh · 01/02/2024 18:24

It's bonkers.
Fox are now saying that the NFL is rigged to ensure that Taylors Bf team get to the final so that she can endorse Biden at half time!

AcrossthePond55 · 01/02/2024 18:47

Nothing in Trump's financial disclosure is surprising. I just wonder if Trump orders someone to 'cook those books' like he's always done with his businesses. I mean, these are just 'financial statements' not audit reports, right?

This shit about TS and the Super Bowl really pisses me off. It's another one of the right wing nut jobs 'pre-empting' something, just like when Trump said "If I don't win you know it's rigged'. If the Chiefs win they'll say it was rigged and the only reason there wasn't a 'major Biden endorsement announcement' from TS is because they 'scuttled her plans' by 'revealing all'. And the cult will believe them. Idiots.

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 01/02/2024 19:34

I think that attacking Taylor Swift will turn out to have been a mistake; she has an awful lot of fans of all ages, and they are not going to believe this sort of tripe about her and may well then notice how much of the rest of the MAGA nonsense and conspiracy crap is inaccurate as well.

lljkk · 01/02/2024 20:30

I know Trump is raising enough money to generally pay his legal bills.
Is his life sucking extra money, is his campaign taking money away from other Republican candidates?

AcrossthePond55 · 01/02/2024 23:39

lljkk · 01/02/2024 20:30

I know Trump is raising enough money to generally pay his legal bills.
Is his life sucking extra money, is his campaign taking money away from other Republican candidates?

IIRC candidates raise their own funds until they get the nomination then the party starts 'helping'. I don't know if that help is with actual cash given to a candidate or if the party just starts spending 'party money' on ads and such.

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 02/02/2024 12:07

I suspect that by getting a lot of people from all the states to contribute to his funds, he leaves those people less inclined to contribute even more money (which they may not even have if they have given it to him) to candidates in their own state who want to get into Congress, the Senate or any local authority.

SerendipityJane · 02/02/2024 12:45

All Trumps legal "problems" are effectively billions of dollars of free advertising.

A good student could use that in a dissertation about the iniquities of Western liberal democracies. Or maybe the US instead ?

PerkingFaintly · 02/02/2024 13:31

Sadly true.

Although he didn't suffer from lack of name-recognition in the first place, so there are likely to be diminishing returns on that front.

And while yes, he's using it to play the martyr, he was doing that anyway, and will do that with any material - including the 2020 election.

For years I've been seeing articles along the lines of, "Oh but Trump will use X adverse event to gain popularity with his base," with a subtext of, "so maybe it would be better this one go."

But to think like that is to misunderstand The Former Guy. He doesn't behave like this because of event X; he behaves like this because he behaves like this; and if it isn't event X on which he seizes, it will be event Y.

Meanwhile he's more than happy to let other people believe they'd better just let him get away with X.

One of his biographers talked about this c2016. After a few weeks in The Former Guy's presence, he realised TFG operates by creating a permanent shitstorm of rule-breaking and outrageous transgression, so that no one can possibly call him out on all of it and people start picking their battles. Then TFG turns that round on people and says, "But you didn't complain when we did X, so you're complicit in X and can't now complain when we do Y."

TL;DR, there's no gain from not holding Trump to account for obvious major transgressions.

Darkandstormynite · 02/02/2024 14:22

Sorry complete aside!

What does TL;DR mean?

I've seen it a few times and have no clue 😊

SerendipityJane · 02/02/2024 14:50

SerendipityJane · 27/01/2024 13:37

Well he was certainly paid to tank Trumps cases, like Habba. And Powell ... is an interesting line to drop into a MAGA echo chamber.

Or so I am told ....

Oh dear god, someone actually fucking did the one thing I told them not to.

Trump Supporters Think Alina Habba Is A Deep State Plant Intentionally Hurting Trump

Alina Habba's incompetence as a lawyer isn't just being noticed by legal experts and those on the Left: She is now facing fury from the MAGA supporters that ...

https://youtu.be/2OdjowISsGI

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