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To want a cleaner that will pick my clothes up off the floor?

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Zamphina · 03/10/2023 22:19

Dp and I work very long hours during the week. We’re out of the house 9-10 minimum. We eat dinner in the office. When we get home we’re exhausted and just want to sleep. So often the kitchen has our breakfast stuff. We’ve left clothes on the floor. There might be sunday’s dishes on the table. The laundry has been left out drying.

We earn an OK salary and have a tiny flat to save money, so a cleaner coming 2-3 times a week for two hours a time won’t be an issue.

But obviously I’m slightly embarrassed for someone to see my home in such a mess. Are there any cleaners who will sort all of this? Pick up the clothes, put them on to wash, load the dishwasher, and clean the bathroom etc?

OP posts:
ladykale · 05/10/2023 12:38

@vapesareforsnakes another MN reader with very poor comprehension sighs

Beezknees · 05/10/2023 12:39

Resentful2023 · 05/10/2023 11:59

Im not saying your life is easy, Im saying it's different. If you came here saying 'I'm exhausted with my workload and at home responsibilities. I know I should eat healthier and exercise more for my health but I just keep defaulting to the take aways and collapsing on the couch. Can I get someone to come into the house and cook for me each week?'. Would you like support and encouragement about how to achieve that or to be told you're lazy and disgusting and hear about all the people who can do all you do and more and home cook every day and work out 3 times a week. I see that as equivalent, because I don't attach a higher moral value to cleaning than any other responsibility that we have as an adult.

It's not the cleaning. It's the literally leaving clothes on the floor that is ridiculous. It is a 2 second job to put them in a wash basket and anyone who says they don't have time to do that is lying.

vapesareforsnakes · 05/10/2023 12:41

ladykale · 05/10/2023 12:37

This thread is why I don't bother asking anything on MN.

So many batshit crazy people who can't comprehend that people have very different lifestyles to their own.

Many women on this thread are likely of the view that it's lazy to even have a cleaner. For many people, especially if you have a high paid and stressful job, spending 6 hours of scarce time cleaning or the effort of separating dirty clothes by colour to wash IS a big waste of time...

spending 6 hours of scarce time cleaning or the effort of separating dirty clothes by colour to wash IS a big waste of time

COP in, nobody would complain about that, picking up discarded clothes off the floor and expecting someone else to pick them up and bring to the laundry basket is beyond lazy. It is off the scale lazy in fact.

LolaSmiles · 05/10/2023 12:44

@LolaSmiles But there’s a huge difference between thinking “I’ll just leave that for someone else to do” and asking “would it be possible to pay someone to do that for me”, isn’t there?

I guess I just can’t see why wanting to pay someone to do something you don’t want to do makes you inherently lazy, regardless of what that thing is. I can’t understand why we outsource some things and no-one bats an eyelid but we ask whether it’s possible to outsource something else and suddenly we’re lazy and entitled and have no respect for other people?

I see your point and can't speak for anyone else, but to me there's a difference between outsourcing a domestic task and having the outlook of "I'll just dump stuff on the floor over the week and pay someone to sort it". That's an attitude that I see in some teenagers who will leave their junk around classrooms because the cleaners will clean it, and I suspect at home they try it with the view that Mum will clean up after them. It's a mindset that most adults grow out of.

If I was in OP's position, I'd have a laundry hamper where I get ready, drop the clothes in the hamper and then find a cleaner who's happy to stick a load of washing in. It's not much effort to do and means the cleaner can put a load straight in the machine instead of having to round up the dirty clothing that's been scattered wherever before they start cleaning.

Hellaweirdhuh · 05/10/2023 12:45

ladykale · 05/10/2023 12:26

@Hellaweirdhuh chair/floor - kind of the same.

I tend to take off clothes and leave them in a pile on the floor if dirty to ensure they don't get mixed up with clean clothes or a pair of trousers that I may wear more than once before washing.

This thread just shows how insane so many people are and why it's so hard getting paid help in this country, because you get cleaners who say that they don't wash dishes or pick clothes from the floor!

I'll disagree.

I think it's 'insane' that able bodied adults like yourself think you're just too busy or important to have the very basic self-respect and respect for others that you apparently find it taxing or exhausting to not just leave your clothes on the floor and want to pay someone else to do it

I'm so sorry that your laziness, bad manners and disregard for people you feel are beneath you makes it difficult for you to find 'paid help' willing to act like servants and not employees who are able to have boundaries.

Must be hard. Maybe have a spa day?

HoneycrispApple · 05/10/2023 12:49

dirty underwear is continually brought up. So weird. Op never said that she was leaving specifically dirty clothes on the floor, let alone underwear.

People are odd and this thread has become weird!

vapesareforsnakes · 05/10/2023 12:50

HoneycrispApple · 05/10/2023 12:49

dirty underwear is continually brought up. So weird. Op never said that she was leaving specifically dirty clothes on the floor, let alone underwear.

People are odd and this thread has become weird!

We’ve left clothes on the floor
Pick up the clothes, put them on to wash

I beg to differ.

HoneycrispApple · 05/10/2023 12:52

vapesareforsnakes · 05/10/2023 12:50

We’ve left clothes on the floor
Pick up the clothes, put them on to wash

I beg to differ.

Sorry still don’t see mention of specifically underwear lol

vapesareforsnakes · 05/10/2023 12:53

HoneycrispApple · 05/10/2023 12:52

Sorry still don’t see mention of specifically underwear lol

Why would you put your underwear in the laundry basket and not the rest?

HoneycrispApple · 05/10/2023 12:58

vapesareforsnakes · 05/10/2023 12:53

Why would you put your underwear in the laundry basket and not the rest?

Her op doesn’t even say dirty clothes. Just says clothes.

people in this thread and jumped to the conclusion that it is skidmarked underwear all over the place. It’s so weird

sometimes I leave my pjs on the floor if I am running out the house at 6am. I also leave my laundry out for days to dry.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 05/10/2023 12:59

@Zamphina - are you picking up clothes off the floor and putting them back on? I am hoping the answer is no, because that shows a massive lack of standards - I find it hard to believe that someone - anyone - who works in a professional role, would wear clothes they have left crumpled up on the floor overnight or longer.

Frankly, I judge any able bodied person who cannot put their dirty clothes into a laundry basket, and fold the rest onto a chair or put them away.

I have mobility issues and long covid, and I never dump my clothes on the floor.

Resentful2023 · 05/10/2023 13:04

vapesareforsnakes · 05/10/2023 12:53

Why would you put your underwear in the laundry basket and not the rest?

Maybe she's not quite as disgusting as you all decided she is based on a few sentences in an post?

LolaSmiles · 05/10/2023 13:05

Her op doesn’t even say dirty clothes. Just says clothes.
But she does say pick the clothes up and put them through the washing machine.

Unless she's wanting to wash clean clothes, it's reasonable to assume they're dirty or used.

Or maybe they're just very lazy with more money than sense and would rather pay someone to wash clean clothes than to put them away and wear again. Spend money multiple times over to avoid a 30 second job: spend money on someone picking up clothes, spend money on detergent and energy to wash the clothes, spend money to replace clothes that have worn quicker due to needless washing.

vapesareforsnakes · 05/10/2023 13:07

Resentful2023 · 05/10/2023 13:04

Maybe she's not quite as disgusting as you all decided she is based on a few sentences in an post?

That makes it even worse in my opinion...here I will put my dirty knickers in the laundry basket but instead of putting the rest in at the same time...you can do it.

GarlicGrace · 05/10/2023 13:08

Teddleshon · 05/10/2023 09:47

Personally I think it pretty much boils down to good manners. A generally good rule in life is to treat others the way you would like to be treated.

Yeah. I don't know about you, but the way I like to be treated is to have a clear job description and be paid on time.

vapesareforsnakes · 05/10/2023 13:09

HoneycrispApple · 05/10/2023 12:58

Her op doesn’t even say dirty clothes. Just says clothes.

people in this thread and jumped to the conclusion that it is skidmarked underwear all over the place. It’s so weird

sometimes I leave my pjs on the floor if I am running out the house at 6am. I also leave my laundry out for days to dry.

Her op doesn’t even say dirty clothes. Just says clothes

Don't be ridiculous... she states.. Pick up the clothes, put them on to wash

Hellaweirdhuh · 05/10/2023 13:09

ladykale · 05/10/2023 12:37

This thread is why I don't bother asking anything on MN.

So many batshit crazy people who can't comprehend that people have very different lifestyles to their own.

Many women on this thread are likely of the view that it's lazy to even have a cleaner. For many people, especially if you have a high paid and stressful job, spending 6 hours of scarce time cleaning or the effort of separating dirty clothes by colour to wash IS a big waste of time...

Nope. As has been said repeatedly, no-one is objecting to the OP employing a cleaner.

Or employing someone to do their laundry.

They're objecting to the fact that apparently 2 high earning graduates in a tiny flat with weekends off just can't manage to not leave their dirty clothes on the floor.

THAT was the OP 'AIBU to want a cleaner to pick up my clothes off the floor '

OP invited opinions by posting in AIBU.

And so many people said yes YABU. That is unreasonable for x, y or z reason.

And then for some reason, some posters decided the people saying 'yes YABU are just being mean and of course it's completely reasonable for OP to not bother to put their clothes in a wash basket because they're young, or work long hours.

And then attempted to say the OP and her DP have a harder life than even lone full-time working parents so should be sympathised with.

And you clearly have never done any cleaning of a tiny flat or laundry if you think it takes 2 people 6 hours.

It only would if you're lazy in the 1st place and let it get into a complete state which the OP and her DP clearly are and did.

LumiB · 05/10/2023 13:09

I wonder in their ever so busy working life's at work do they get food and drink and just leave the rubbish where it is? Don't even manage to have time to throw it in the nearest bin?

I bet they would never do that at work!

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 05/10/2023 13:10

@Resentful2023 - she is either wearing clothes that have been left on the floor, or she is leaving dirty clothes, that need washing, on the floor instead of putting them in a laundry basket - both options disgust me.

Why is it so hard to put dirty clothes in a laundry basket, and clothes that are going to be worn again, on a chair?

GarlicGrace · 05/10/2023 13:15

So the disgusted critics of Mumsnet reckon it's okay to pay someone to move washing from a laundry basket to the machine, but not from the floor?

What's the difference? She's still handling the laundry, innit. Putting it in a basket doesn't make it cleaner.

BigButtons · 05/10/2023 13:16

Beezknees · 05/10/2023 08:55

Er, I'm not a SAHM. I'm a full time working lone parent and I manage to keep my house clean myself.

What did it matter? If the op chooses to pay someone to pick up and wash their clothes what is wrong with that?

vapesareforsnakes · 05/10/2023 13:19

BigButtons · 05/10/2023 13:16

What did it matter? If the op chooses to pay someone to pick up and wash their clothes what is wrong with that?

It's disrespectful, slovenly and scruffy.

Resentful2023 · 05/10/2023 13:29

vapesareforsnakes · 05/10/2023 13:19

It's disrespectful, slovenly and scruffy.

Wow. Peak MN judgement there.

vapesareforsnakes · 05/10/2023 13:31

Resentful2023 · 05/10/2023 13:29

Wow. Peak MN judgement there.

Nah, just basic manners and standards of living.

Hellaweirdhuh · 05/10/2023 13:35

vapesareforsnakes · 05/10/2023 13:09

Her op doesn’t even say dirty clothes. Just says clothes

Don't be ridiculous... she states.. Pick up the clothes, put them on to wash

As has been said many times, if the OP finds it too taxing to pick up clothes off the floor and put them in a laundry basket, that includes dirty underwear.

If she's able to pick up dirty knickers and her DPs pants and put them in a laundry basket, then it takes no more time at all to pick up the dirty clothes surrounding the dirty underwear.

If OP doesn't need someone to pick her knickers up off the floor then she doesn't need someone to pick up any clothes off the floor.

The actions are completely the same and require the same amount of effort and physical exertion from the OP.

The OP said she wants to pay someone to pick up her and DPs clothes off the floor. If she had said ' but not underwear, we'll do that' then she'd be even more unreasonable than she already is because the two can be done at exactly the same time with no additional skills or effort needed.

So I think we can likely assume that OP expects someone else to pick up her and DPs dirty knickers/pants when she wants them to pick up the clothes off the floor and put them in the wash.

And if she isn't, then that makes her even more unreasonable as it's not that OP is just lazy, but deliberately taking time to do a task (picking up underwear) while leaving other clothes on the floor that they want someone else to pick up because they're 'tired' when if she's picking up underwear, she could easily pick up the other clothes at the same time with no extra time or effort required is just beyond lazy.

So that's why people are assuming she's expecting a cleaner to pick up her and her DPs dirty underwear and not just clothes.