To want a cleaner that will pick my clothes up off the floor?

[Zamphina]

Dp and I work very long hours during the week. We’re out of the house 9-10 minimum. We eat dinner in the office. When we get home we’re exhausted and just want to sleep. So often the kitchen has our breakfast stuff. We’ve left clothes on the floor. There might be sunday’s dishes on the table. The laundry has been left out drying.

We earn an OK salary and have a tiny flat to save money, so a cleaner coming 2-3 times a week for two hours a time won’t be an issue.

But obviously I’m slightly embarrassed for someone to see my home in such a mess. Are there any cleaners who will sort all of this? Pick up the clothes, put them on to wash, load the dishwasher, and clean the bathroom etc?

My God the judgement on this thread, some of you seem to have no imagination or empathy.

I hope and expect the OP has muted that thread or whatever you do on MN but if not..

It's ok to be exhausted or overwhelmed at this stage of your life OP, well done for looking for help to cope. I hope you find the right cleaner, a system that works for you.

Nope. As has been said repeatedly, no-one is objecting to the OP employing a cleaner.

Or employing someone to do their laundry.

They're objecting to the fact that apparently 2 high earning graduates in a tiny flat with weekends off just can't manage to not leave their dirty clothes on the floor.

THAT was the OP 'AIBU to want a cleaner to pick up my clothes off the floor'

I agree with you. It's not about having a cleaner or someone to do laundry. It's 2 adults who'd rather toss their clothes on the floor than put them in a wash basket.

The logical solution is to put a laundry hamper where they get changed, drop the clothes in there and find a cleaner who offers a laundry service. Laundry gets done, flat gets cleaned, nobody has to spend a week climbing over dirty clothes and the cleaner doesn't have to wander around collecting dirty clothes from all over before they can do their job.

So your out the office 9/10 hours a day, that's 13/14 potentially in the house, even with an 8hr sleep that leaves 5to6 to do these tasks. Stop being so lazy.

I am not a cleaner, my mum is though and all her clients tidy up before she gets there so she can hoover mop etc without crap in the way.

If your jobs are so draining you can't even put your clothes away maybe you should change jobs. We should work to live not live to work. Are your jobs really worth it?

Is it lazy not to read the OP properly? She's out FROM 9 to 10, sometimes from as early as 6.45.

Sometimes as early as 6.45am meaning its not all the time. So there are some mornings she is leaving later, when she could have time as little as 1 minute it would take to go round a tiny flat and pick stuff up off the floor.

But she doesn’t want to.

She wants to pay someone else to.

Which is fine, lots of cleaners are happy to tidy.

The OP is working long hours to build up her career, it won’t be for ever. It’s very normal in some professions like law.

Given she is working those hours, she is hardly lazy.

Your mum’s clients might not pay her to tidy before the cleans, but lots of cleaners do do longer hours with fewer clients to do just that (and often laundry too.) It works for them, because it’s more hours earning and less hours travelling.

disrespectful to whom exactly?
It's their house. If someone is happy to do the work they are being paid for then it is not disrespectful at all.
If the op would rather pay someone and has the money good for her. It's up to her what she spends her money on.
So many ridiculous judgments on here.

Gosh you are unhappy and angry.

Lots of cleaners are happy to tidy and do laundry as well as clean. A messy house doesn’t equal nasty people, and being untidy and hiring someone to sort it out doesn’t mean you think they are beneath you - it means you’re untidy and you’re hiring someone to sort it out, and are most likely Very Grateful Indeed for what they do.

OP wrote: We earn an OK salary and have a tiny flat to save money, so a cleaner coming 2-3 times a week for two hours a time won’t be an issue.

Well it is disrespectful to expect a cleaner to do all that work 2-3 a week for only 2hrs each time

So a cleaner in those 2 hours has to clear the floors of their clothes, clean all their dirty dishes and the rest of the house? really???

I’m sure a cleaner would be delighted to scrape your dirty pants from the floor as you’re obviously above doing it for yourself. How lazy are the pair of you? Give yourselves a shake and live like civilised people.

What?!

The cleaner will tell them how long it takes to do the work they want doing. 4 hours is a long time in a tiny one bed, but if it needs longer the cleaner will say so.

This thread has officially reached peak insanity.

Surely putting dirty clothes in linen basket is not too much for two adults. My children were doing this early on. You sound pretty slovenly and yes I work very long hours. No excuse.

It’s not about excuses it’s about what they choose to do with their time. They are choosing to pay someone to do it for them. It’s their money. They can do what they like regarding tidying and cleaning or PAYING someone who is happy to do it for them.

It's not about money, it's about common decency and manners and also respect of the other person coming in to clean. Nobody should be expected to pick up dirty clothes off a floor where they were dropped. How bloody rude is that, have the clothes in the bloody wash bag. That is just basic decorum. You can buy almost anything in this world if you have the money but you cannot buy courtesy and decency it seems in the case of the OP.

No doubt the cleaner will turn round and say x time. But her expectations are unrealistic already.

Tiny could mean anything, we don't actually know how big the place is nor how dirty they really leave it, she could be downplaying it. Judging by the comment she made that 'There might be sunday’s dishes on the table'...I'd reckon its pretty dirty. How many dishes have piled up before the cleaner comes.

Even a tiny flat unless its a studio is one bedroom, one kitchen/ living area plus a bathroom. Its still 3 rooms. Presumably they will want laundry doing if they don't have time to even pick dirty clothes off the floor, how do they have time to wash their own clothes.

Not only that, they are still on the table! Who gets up from a meal and leave their dinner dishes on the table and then sits down and has breakfast the next morning? Sounds pretty bad to me too.

You can buy almost anything in this world if you have the money but you cannot buy courtesy and decency it seems in the case of the OP.
You've put it better than me.

Speaking more generally than this thread, I think there's a sliding scale where some people seem to think that as long as they can throw money at something their conduct and attitude doesn't matter.

For example, like pp said up thread about the state of some student properties at the end of rentals. To me basic courtesy says you don't leave somewhere a shit tip for someone else to sort, but evidently some students think that if they lose their deposit they don't mind. To me, it's basic decency to remove my items and leave the place clean. After that the landlord can arrange professional deep cleans and renovations. The idea that I'd leave my junk and the house a tip because the landlord will sort it would be an attitude problem to me. Evidently others feel differently and think the lost deposit is worth it for being scruffy and/or lazy.

This morning I got out of bed and walked towards the shower, taking my sleep tee shirt off and dropped it into the laundry basket as I did so. I didn’t even break stride. Took thirty seconds max.
DH got changed last night, dirty clothes off, straight into the basket, jeans, folded and hung over the chair.
Took no time at all.

Now that was my first thought.

Perhaps you’re right, ‘jealousy’ isn’t quite the right term, but there’s a lot of judging on this thread about what priorities are acceptable (spending time cleaning/tidying) and which are not (earning enough to get the tidying/cleaning outsourced so you can do something else) so my interpretation was that people were jealous that the OP has the money to afford such a service. But as I read more and more posts, sounds more like plain judgment of this couple’s lifestyle (and the money they are willing and able to spend to maintain it.)

I think it’s just women who like to belittle and bully other women to be honest. This is like a pack of hyenas, swooping in to rip to shreds a bit of prey. It’s disgusting to read from start to finish.

is this for real?

How lazy can you get not picking a towel up.😂

OP said their combined income is £120k so if thats an even split its only £60k each. I am not far off that so I'm definitely not jealous that they have the money to afford a cleaner. I could pay a cleaner every day of the week. I just don't need to since I have the time to clean my place because I make time (weekends).

I might not work the hours they do but I am equally not in my house as much as them. I can still manage to put my clothes in a laundry basket and put the dishes I have used to eat from in the dishwasher.

OP herself acknowledges its embarrassing she says she is embarrassed. All most people are doing is saying yeah its bloody lazy and embarrassing you cannot even spend 10 seconds picking something up off the floor.

And to ask a cleaner to do all those things in 2hrs is asking for too much

No, what's disgusting is stepping out of your clothes and expecting a cleaner to pick them up because you have no manners.