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Panorama

38 replies

Canibearsed · 02/10/2023 21:44

Anyone watching? !! Can remember going to Florida in 2008 and my daughter was obsessed with Abercrombie wanting to try on clothes in their big store and worried that the sizes were too small …

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somethinghastochangesoon · 02/10/2023 21:55

I am going to watch it tomorrow, what's it about?

PTSDBarbiegirl · 02/10/2023 21:57

There has already been a huge expose of this within the last 3 years, maybe Netflix. I don't think this was the planned episode.

EachandEveryone · 02/10/2023 22:00

Awful to say but I’m kind of getting immune now. It’s nothing new either I feel like I’ve seen it before.

Canibearsed · 02/10/2023 22:08

Sorry it doesn’t interest people. I don’t use Netflix and only watch occasional TV …still think it’s shocking and sad that people are not interested!! 🤷‍♀️

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kweeble · 02/10/2023 22:22

What is it about?

Crispypancakes53 · 02/10/2023 22:23

Very worrying.

Canibearsed · 02/10/2023 22:40

kweeble · 02/10/2023 22:22

What is it about?

Young people being groomed by the CEO . Watch the programme on catch up.
Even though it was a few years ago parents really need to be switched on to grooming. My son was ‘scouted’ on Instagram a few years ago and I accompanied him to an agency in London. Am absolute con and young people being exploited!

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Canibearsed · 02/10/2023 22:43

Find it really odd that MN generally very protective of their children,whatever their age and yet not interested about teenagers being exploited 🤷‍♀️

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AutumnFroglets · 02/10/2023 23:35

Canibearsed · 02/10/2023 22:43

Find it really odd that MN generally very protective of their children,whatever their age and yet not interested about teenagers being exploited 🤷‍♀️

Try explaining it better in your first post. Not everyone watches Panorama etc, and your post talking about an American clothing outlet doesn't really inspire wanting to watch it on catch up either.

In other words don’t blame others for not caring if you can't be bothered to explain.

NigelFaragesTinyConscience · 02/10/2023 23:36

why was this a big mystery reveal episode and not advertised the normal way?

QueenOfHiraeth · 02/10/2023 23:55

I thought it was rather odd. It was touted as a big reveal but was about a CEO of an American company who resigned many years ago and most of us have never heard of.

There was also the suggestion that the young men making the allegations had been involved in the porn industry or received money for sex prior to these incidents which may weaken their case

Canibearsed · 03/10/2023 00:00

AutumnFroglets · 02/10/2023 23:35

Try explaining it better in your first post. Not everyone watches Panorama etc, and your post talking about an American clothing outlet doesn't really inspire wanting to watch it on catch up either.

In other words don’t blame others for not caring if you can't be bothered to explain.

Well the panorama program has been publicised on TV …sorry if my first post wasn’t clear Actually not sorry,am sure if I started a post about cleaners , education,housing there would have been more interest. Just hope your children are not mislead when they are older and have problems. I just started this thread as a caring Mum .

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nocoolnamesleft · 03/10/2023 00:04

Your opening post gave no clue that this was about young men being coerced, groomed, and sexually exploited, so hardly surprising that people were unconcerned about your daughter being worried that clothes might be too small.

ColdEvenings · 03/10/2023 00:04

QueenOfHiraeth · 02/10/2023 23:55

I thought it was rather odd. It was touted as a big reveal but was about a CEO of an American company who resigned many years ago and most of us have never heard of.

There was also the suggestion that the young men making the allegations had been involved in the porn industry or received money for sex prior to these incidents which may weaken their case

I didn't watch it, but thought it was going to be a BIG REVEAL! Not a rehash of The Sun expose of a few years ago!

Very very strange!!

ketchup07070 · 03/10/2023 00:11

As I understood these young men were promised help with their careers if they went to parties and meetings arranged by the CEO. They did not expect to be involved in sexual activity and were not able to easily leave once they arrived at the premises. There were allegations of trafficking as well, I think? It seems very serious to me. I have not had time to watch it, only read about it, so apologies if I have misunderstood. It's perhaps comparable to the Epstein case, in terms of exploitation and trafficking of vulnerable young people.

Isittimeformynapyet · 03/10/2023 00:22

Canibearsed · 03/10/2023 00:00

Well the panorama program has been publicised on TV …sorry if my first post wasn’t clear Actually not sorry,am sure if I started a post about cleaners , education,housing there would have been more interest. Just hope your children are not mislead when they are older and have problems. I just started this thread as a caring Mum .

Like pp I honestly thought your post was about clothing sizes.

You sound cross with everyone! That's just daft.

And to infer that we don't care about the potential grooming of our young people because you didn't get enough replies is crazy. Do you think that you and Panorama are the first to bring this subject to our attention?

PinkMoscatoLover · 03/10/2023 00:26

Your post was so confusing I only understood what was going on due to the comments. How do you expect interest when people have probably clicked on and then clicked off the thread

Canibearsed · 03/10/2023 00:29

Isittimeformynapyet · 03/10/2023 00:22

Like pp I honestly thought your post was about clothing sizes.

You sound cross with everyone! That's just daft.

And to infer that we don't care about the potential grooming of our young people because you didn't get enough replies is crazy. Do you think that you and Panorama are the first to bring this subject to our attention?

So clothing sizes are more of a problem than kids being coerced 🤷‍♀️No am not cross ,just surprised that people are so passive.

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Yalz · 03/10/2023 00:31

A Twitter post said the programme was supposed to be about a named someone else, but that couldn’t be broadcast for legal reasons.

AllWeWantToDo · 03/10/2023 00:32

Well your first post going on about your daughter moaning about the small sizing of the clothes wasn't helpful at all

It wasn't until @ketchup07070 post that I understood what the program was about

nocoolnamesleft · 03/10/2023 00:33

Canibearsed · 03/10/2023 00:29

So clothing sizes are more of a problem than kids being coerced 🤷‍♀️No am not cross ,just surprised that people are so passive.

No, We're saying that there are so few replies because your OP was blathering on about clothing sizes, instead of talking about sexual exploitation. Because clothing sizes don't exactly grab interest.

Testina · 03/10/2023 00:34

“So clothing sizes are more of a problem than kids being coerced 🤷‍♀️”

Well, you’re the one that put clothing sizes into your OP and nothing about coercion. You’re looking a bit silly there!

AllWeWantToDo · 03/10/2023 00:37

Testina · 03/10/2023 00:34

“So clothing sizes are more of a problem than kids being coerced 🤷‍♀️”

Well, you’re the one that put clothing sizes into your OP and nothing about coercion. You’re looking a bit silly there!

My thoughts exactly, absolutely nothing in ops post about coercion or teen exploitation . Yet the rest of us are the problem because we didn't know what she was on about

ColdEvenings · 03/10/2023 00:37

Yalz · 03/10/2023 00:31

A Twitter post said the programme was supposed to be about a named someone else, but that couldn’t be broadcast for legal reasons.

I did look on twitter but couldn't see anything. I thought it might have been an expose on DW.

PinkMoscatoLover · 03/10/2023 00:38

Wtf is going on tonight?!

We have this thead which makes absolutely no sense. We have a troll going wild on the baby names board, insulting everyone and their dad. And to top it off we have the hallucinations thead which was downright trippy

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