To wonder how Liz Truss has the audacity to push herself back into the spotlight again?

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Just that, really. The woman must have the hide of a rhino. And/or be completely and utterly devoid of any self awareness.

I find it strangely fascinating!

She doesn’t try to water down her views, is prepared to stand by what she believes in even if it costs her her job.

Is this the same Liz Truss who backed remain…

“I don’t want my daughters to grow up in a world where they need a visa or permit to work in Europe; or where they are hampered from growing a business because of extortionate call costs and barriers to trade,” she said.

Before a complete u-turn to embrace Brexit’s sunny uplands when it suited her career?

Gah, she’s even more vain, deluded and narcissistic than Johnson and that’s a high bar.

Not everyone lost money due to Liz and her mates. Just ask them. I believe Mr Kwarteng and friends did particularly well due to foreknowledge. Now they're anxious for more of the same leaving the plebs to pick up the bill. Again.

Fair point!

I had forgotten that bit, so yes she is in fact a lying unprincipled snake like all the rest.

She's a bit mad isn't she.

The thing is the position she touts though, its pure, undiluted grass roots conservatism. Low tax, capitalism, the "system" will ensure efficiency....

It doesn't work. Very very clever people just make more money than everyone else, especially if you throttle unions which are the only way most people can bargain effectively for a better share of the value their labour helps create.

I agree. I felt weird empathy for her at some points because I felt like I could imagine being in her shoes - believing I could definitely be PM, spending years thinking I could pull it off if only I got the chance, then getting the job and it being an absolute fucking car crash. But she doesn’t feel humbled by it in any way. It is quite fascinating. I mean, I was raised to hate Thatcher, but at least she exhibited something in the range of normal human emotion, weeping when she was ousted. And she certainly had stronger leadership skills.

The right wing press celebrated her and her disastrous budget. In fact, given her lack of charisma, I think it’s fair to say there’s no way she would have become PM if the Daily Mail and alike hadn’t been championing her throughout the leadership contest.

Its in their interests to rehabilitate her reputation so that they can keep up the pretence that the economic policies they helped her push are anything but disastrous for the majority of people in the UK.

"Keir Starmer- who has done real and difficult jobs in the public sector and for the public interest for decades- is a worse person than Liz Truss who, prior to being an MP, worked for checks notes ..... Shell and a Tory Think Tank. And whose real name isn't even what she says it is!"

Wow. A hot take indeed.

She was an utter disaster. I didn’t appreciate how much until someone shared this brilliant graphic:

https://kamikwasi.tax/

I don’t think she’s stupid though - she is pushing a specific agenda. She wrote a book about it with Kwarteng. This explains the background to the ideology and organisations behind her:

Not her thanks.

I don't believe Truss has any real views or opinions (see Brexit). She's an opportunistic talking head.

Even ignoring the Brexit issue, if there’s one thing Liz Truss’s brief tenure as PM is known for (other than the remarkable economic damage) it was making u-turn after u-turn after u-turn.

The revisionism in the above post borders on comical.

I heard that KK & Truss haven't spoken since she unchancellored him. He is very circumspect when asked what he thinks of her now.

I think LT lives in another universe, possibly.

First of all, bad and dangerous policies are still bad and dangerous policies, even if- or especially if - someone believes in and persists with them. Secondly, I'm not really sure that Liz Truss- a left-leaning LibDem in her student days; a Remainer in the run-up to the Referendum- really passes the consistency test in any case!

Christ this is so depressing.
Vote these sods out.

She's seen shamelessness being rewarded over and over again. Dorries, Rees-Mogg, Anderson, Davies... and Johnson. Always bloody Johnson.

Just a parade of completely fucking grim, still drawing the salaries years after any Tory with any sense of shame cut their losses and went back to trying to get some work done outside parliament.

I wish the whole nasty lot of them would drown in their own covetousness and leave the rest of us the hell alone.

Then along comes Truss who, whether you agree with her or not, is a genuine radical who actually wants to change the way the country is run and challenge the mainstream consensus. She doesn’t try to water down her views, is prepared to stand by what she believes in even if it costs her her job. And she still gets criticised for refusing to stop saying what she really thinks.

Leaving aside her total change in opinion (or rather, her voiced opinion) on brexit, I'm not sure this is the good trait you seem to be suggesting. Yes, sticking to your principles is good. But what's she's doing is sticking to her beliefs despite any and all evidence to the contrary. There's nothing superior about a refusal to listen to feedback and learn from the past. She's like a child sticking her fingers in her ears yelling " La La La I'm not listening! I'm right you're wrong"

The thing is though - she has said what even the chancellor’s own reports have told him and the ONS. We have a huge tax burden now and it’s still not enough. The huge reliance on higher earners (a very small group) is actively damaging tax take, as they are leaving and changing behaviour. Hunt knows this, it’s in a report he commissioned. Why is it all so quiet? Why the active take down when actually the point she is crudely trying to make is backed up by fiscal reports. It’s all so odd.

As the ONS released atrocious data this year in regards to tax take, state dependency and deficit - she has a point to some ends. Problem is, people don’t want to hear it. Where is the plan from anyone from any party? That’s what I want to know because more tax isn’t working. It’s a fucking fiscal disaster.

She’s obviously good for those at the top who want to line their pockets with her knack for tanking the economy… or it’s something more sinister

I read something about Liz Truss that claimed she would randomly ask people who worked for her maths questions in meetings, which suggests some sort of deluded persona.

I study politics closely and always have, so I don't say this lightly, but I think some of the current tory cabinet are 'not the full quid' as we say round here.
They do seem quite delusional - the stuff they are coming out with gets stranger every day. Today's example was one saying they needed to clamp down on councils 'proposing' 15 minute cities, even though they accepted none have actually done that, but "they could". It was just so bizzare. It's kind of funny but also a bit scary.

Yes I find the fact that anyone is still listening to her extremely odd. I thought it was a joke when she first said she was standing for Tory leader, I still can't quite believe she was PM. I believe fundamentally that a majority of Tory members picked the only remaining white candidate.

As far as 'what we want from our politicians', I'll definitely take Keir Starmer or anyone with some apparent connection to reality over someone whose main focus was on expensive photoshoots in office and promoting a very extreme minority view on the economy which indeed proved disastrous when implemented.

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No emotion.

She has delusions of adequacy. If she had any grasp of her actual abilities she'd never have accepted the job of PM (or minister, or MP).

This seems to be a prerequisite for becoming a politician these days. The entire cabinet have been useless for the last decade- to an extent that really unusual, historically.

There have been plenty of shit ministers over the decades but the vast majority have been fairly competent and have achieved things in order to get promoted. Truss would have been a nobody in every government (of either party) before Cameron. She was only able to feign competence against a background of Chris Grayling, Matt Hancock, Priti Patel, Boris Johnson etc.

Never stopped Blair and Brown from sticking their nose in the trough.

The guy talking about 15 minute cities sounds even more seriously fucking bonkers than Truss, and that’s really saying something.