Not to give my child Flu jab

[Binjob118]

My son is 6 and has been offered the nasal flu jab at school. He has had it the last 2 years and had no problems, but I now feel reluctant to give it to him. Does a healthy child really need this? I have to admit this change in my thinking has come about since the COVID vaccine rollout and the many vaccine injuries that seem to be being ignored by the MSM.

I'm fit and healthy but got flu in my 20s and ended up in hospital. I was seriously I'll and took months to get my strength back. People underestimate just how severe flu can be. I'd let him have the jab.

Because nurseries and schools are germ factories, and illness runs rampant through them.

But as with the covid jab it doesn't stop you getting it or passing it on! I wouldn't bother OP. You can't vaccinate against a virus like flu and covid which mutate. Complete waste of NHS money at best

🙄

That's untrue on both counts.

It prevents children catching it
It stops children passing it on

Flu and covid are not the same

Anecdotally - years ago 4 out of our family of 5 had the vaccine. (Due to ages and work paying for the adults). The one that hadn’t had it was really ill on Christmas Day. Pretty much laid up and miserable. The rest of us maybe had a bit of a cold not sure but nothing like that. We get it if we can and pay privately if necessary.

I had flu as a healthy teen. I was really unwell. However, I haven't had flu since. I've had common colds that are a lot worse than Covid. I don't see a point in vaccinating against flu unless you're really old etc. The efficacy of the jabs isn't high. I never had the flu jab as a child or adult. Vaccinating against measles, fair enough. Flu? I don't see the point.

Why do you prefer your kid catches an infectious virus rather than protect them?

I'd note that the NHS is public and so has to find very good reason to pay for something to provide us with a feee service.

For example; they don't vax for chicken pox as many other places do (eg US - insurance based) because it is of more benefit over all to have it circulating naturally, despite it sometimes being a serious illness.

But they do then do shingles for adults.

There will have been a social overall benefit in making this decision.

And we can't compare it with covid decisions as covid was a unique new virus with zero long term data. Flu vax for children benefits has a longer and bigger evidence base which for the nhs will have meant better cost effectiveness for society and the nhs as a whole.

People are far to focussed on themselves these days rather than the bigger picture.

of course rubella protects the child, where did you get the idea it doesn't??? german measles can cause ear infections and brain swelling (albeit rarely) it also confers lifelong immunity from a one off jab so if that child is female and is exposed when pregnant they wont become seriously unwell or risk damage to their baby. You cant compare any of the routine childhood infections to the flu jab ...i would agree, people would be mad to refuse any routine childhood injections but the flu jab is more than up for debate as to whether its necessary or not. Pushing flu and covid vaccines has caused people to become blasé about choosing to give their kids the essential vaccines , as the measles increase has shown.

I had a family member who had a brain injury caused by German measles, I think people forget how dangerous these viruses can be and how privileged we are to have the "option " of vaccinations.

They look at what variety are spreading in wherever it is winter and lots of other clever things and choose 3 or 4 varieties to put in the vaccine (depending on if tri or quad varient). Then they do the same for the South hemisphere in their winter. They even specify for regions in the middle which type northern or southern they think they should use. I find it fascinating and am very grateful to the scientists.

Id get any vaccine offered. My daughter has MS and is in immunocompromised due to her medication. She's a teenager. You bet she's getting everything, and if she had younger siblings they'd be getting any jabs too.

I’m 54 and never had the flu jab. DS is 18 now so can make his own decisions but I don’t ever recall him being offered any sort of flu vaccine at school

Only one of my children was in the age group offered the nasal spray and she's never had it. She didn't have the covid vaccine either. Definitely not anti vaccine, my kids have had all other vaccinations.

Why?

When your child is blinded and brain-damaged by measles, console yourself with this thought.

These illnesses are dangerous to your child and dangerous to others. You aren't just protecting the elderly by having a vaccinated population, you are protecting the immune-compromised, and preventing the spread of serious illnesses that can kill and costs the NHS money needlessly.

Have you ever had flu? Not a bad cold, but real flu? I'm fit and healthy, but it put me in hospital a few years ago. Obviously, I didn't die, (I'm not posting from the afterlife) but at the time, I almost wanted to I felt so foul.

Be irresponsible if you want to be, but don't pretend it's for the benefit of your children.

What stats have you read? Can you elaborate?

I watched my father die from pneumonia, if you are happy to risk that in your child then that’s up to you.

@OrangeBlossomPretty Someone else asked the same question, this is what I replied with ^^

I'd give it. Minimal to no side effects (ours never have had any)
It only reduces the chance by about 40% usually, depending on the year, but that's still a 40% less chance of them feeling horrible ill, missing things they have planned (or even special times like birthday or Christmas), you needing time off work etc.
Different with covid where children generally barely notice it, but flu is usually pretty nasty regardless of health status.

Yeah right. A paediatrician who doesn’t know that the flu vaccine (injection) is not live? Either she’s a quack or you have massively misunderstood.

Yes, the flu vaccine can prevent infection. Why are you spreading misinformation?

When people were refusing the covid vaccine and getting angry at anyone who said they were anti-vax, saying they weren’t it was just this one I knew this would happen. I knew it would spread to other vaccines for other spurious reasons. Anti-vaxers used the understandable anxiety in a pandemic and a new (but not untested) vaccine to sow the seeds.
YABVU, @Binjob118
And probably disingenuous. When are you starting the thread to explain why you don’t agree with other vaccines? Because that’s definitely coming.
just. Vaccinate.

*SamW98

I’m 54 and never had the flu jab. DS is 18 now so can make his own decisions but I don’t ever recall him being offered any sort of flu vaccine at school*

Same here. I am presuming it is a new thing