Not to give my child Flu jab

[Binjob118]

My son is 6 and has been offered the nasal flu jab at school. He has had it the last 2 years and had no problems, but I now feel reluctant to give it to him. Does a healthy child really need this? I have to admit this change in my thinking has come about since the COVID vaccine rollout and the many vaccine injuries that seem to be being ignored by the MSM.

I have to say thanks for starting another anti vaccination thread, though. I've now realised from this that I'm also eligible for the Shingles vaccine, so that'll be three vaccines to book this week, as I've already had the Pneumococcal (five if you include DP booking his vaccines).

Ive had pneumonia (x2) and flu. They are comparable in terms of feeling like death.

He was probably too old when the programme was rolled out to young children I think it was in 2014ish, you are only entitled it as an adult if you are over 60 or have long standing medical conditions, I think carers also get it.

Distressed at having a nasal spray? Don't be so fucking dramatic!

As a matter of interest, why not? There’s clearly a continuum. Not letting your child take peanuts to somewhere where there is a person with a peanut allergy is something most people would be OK with - inflicting a small inconvenience on your child to prevent risk of death to someone else. So presumably you’re regarding the flu jab as considerably more than an inconvenience?

That's not why we vaccinate though is it? We vaccinate to protect unborn children,

Where did I get the idea? Because in my day only girls received it at about the age 12/13.

WHich I thought was ridiculous as I never wanted children, but my brother always did.

There has been no catch up programme for people like my brother who didn't receive the vaccine.

YABU

Flu is a really horrible illness, whatever age you get it. I had it as a child and still remember how miserably ill I was and how long it took to feel normal again. And had it several times as an adult until I started getting the flu jab 13 years ago. No flu since. It's well worth it for your child's sake and for the many people in contact with your child.

Routine MMR vaccines are totally different to the yearly flu jab. The efficacy of the flu jab is low and you might not even be protected because scientists have to predict a strain that year. They don't always get it right. My dd is a baby but when it's time to, I will vaccinate her against MMR but decline the yearly flu jabs.

I've had flu (not a cold) and it was awful. I still don't see a point in getting the flu jab unless you're immunosuppressed etc. Although apparently the flu jab doesn't work well in over 65s. In 2016-17 that jab didn't work at all in over 65s. I'll stick with other childhood jabs but not the flu jab.

They simply want to reduce circulation because last year it caused 14,000 excess deaths, and that's not taking into consideration the pneumonia and hospitalisations among others. As well as potentially causing post viral fatigue among any age group.

Covid caused 10,000 excess deaths.

My kids have always had it and never had any reaction to it.

I live in an area with lots of hcps and everyone just does it.

Can't believe the short sighted self centred thinking on this thread.

I had flu a few months ago, and I've never felt so deathly ill! And I'm young and healthy. I think it's selfish to deny your child the opportunity to skip catching something because of a vague feeling that isn't based in science.

Obviously you can chose to do whatever you want. I would say that my child was hospitalised with flu before she was old enough to receive the vaccination and she was so very poorly. Out of interest, why are you suddenly worried because you have 'heard' things about the covid vaccine? I'm all for the right of parents to make choices for their children but don't be that stupid person who makes ill-informed, irrational decisions based on nonsense.

YABVU

I can't understand why anyone would refuse to take such a simple step that could potentially protect their child from an illness that can be severe enough to kill them. The reasons ranging from utter selfishness to just sheer ignorance.

Me, DH, DS5 and DD2 will all be having it, and yes we also paid for the Chickenpox vaccines for the children. I will do anything I can to protect them.

Nice attitude. Its a little spray up the nose not a needle, I'm sure no children are scarred for life from the trauma 🙄

My friends children have become quite distressed at having it

Lack of resilience and ability to teach resilience is definitely dropping these days.

Massive issue for when they have to have more serious medical interventions.

It’s not a jab for children, though, is it? IIRC it’s a nasal spray.
I would hope that my Gdcs will have it - I have picked up enough bugs from them in the past - and did just once have real flu - not just a bad cold.
It knocked my stuffing right out for at least 3 weeks - and I was a lot younger then.

They are only two @WarriorN!

My boys had them at that age. One was upset so I made sure we did some teaching around it for the next time. Not avoid it. Then loads of praise for bravery

Watched some dr ranj and played drs.

That’s good (meant sincerely) but personally - and it is personal choice - something that is going to upset them is going to happen, but it doesn’t sit comfortably with me that it is not for their direct benefit.

That is true and I would possibly make different decisions for a child who was displaying a lot of anxiety around a lot of things and / or is autistic.

However I'd be using it as an easy teaching opportunity when I felt the time was right just in case that child does have to have more challenging procedures.

My Dh is into the boots viral nasal sprays in winter not sure they really do much so he made a slapstick joke about spraying it on himself and then eventually our son wanted to try too.

It is slightly for their benefit. It's not going to be of harm to them, may "lessen viral load" (or what ever it does) if they do catch it which helps them and us avoid sick days.

I work in school and absences for staff have gone through the roof since the pandemic. We'd always have a problem near Xmas but it's been all year round now with a mix of covid and other viruses in the mix.

(And children off meant to add)

Why wouldn't it be for their benefit?

It is for their direct benefit (some myths won't lie down and dies)

The groups most likely to die from flu are the elderly (over 60), the young (under 10) and the pregnant. Plus those with certain medical conditions.

Now look at the groups the NHS vaccinates.

Older children included, as a result of pressure from the public who didn't like the thought of their older DC not being protected whilst the younger ones were.

Because that’s pretty much what has been said throughout - that it is to protect the elderly rather than for the child themselves.

Irrespective of the discomfort caused by the vaccinations, put simply that doesn’t sit comfortably with me from a moral standpoint.